Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted May 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) I miss the days, at the beginning of Sky's Premier League contract, when it was just Martin Tyler (or Ian Darke), Andy Gray and Richard Keys. Not two million other guys offering their opinions. Edited May 17, 2019 by bAzTNM#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted May 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 17, 2019 I'd rather have two million (Vintage Baz!) pundits than two sexist dinosaurs though to be fair. Sky do tend to stick to the same pool most of the time- Carragher, Neville, Redknapp, Souness. They mix it up on The Debate, where Liam Rosenior always comes across well (and Geoff Shreeves comes across as an opinionated bell end when his job should really be to mediate the discussion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Bifkin Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Liam Rosenior is great but won't get far on Sky because he's black and didn't play for Man Utd or Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted May 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 17, 2019 Plus, he smiles too much and doesn't spend most of the time - irrespective of who's playing - getting angry over Paul Pogba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Bifkin Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Tony Pullis leaves Boro the day the Juventus job becomes available. No smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted May 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 17, 2019 What's Trevor Francis do these days? He was like their Fink for a while there. One of the first hired by Sky to do the Premiership coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted May 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said: What's Trevor Francis do these days? He was like their Fink for a while there. One of the first hired by Sky to do the Premiership coverage. Heard him a few times on various streams last season. Still got a cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted May 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 17, 2019 Trev should always have work. I insist that if Forest ever get back in the top flight he be installed as their new manager immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said: What's Trevor Francis do these days? He was like their Fink for a while there. One of the first hired by Sky to do the Premiership coverage. Had him on a stream from (I think) Canada recently and he is one of the worst I’ve ever heard. Personally, I’ve never understood the fetish for ex players as pundits as much as we do in this country. Just because they played, they assume we’re interested in what they have to say I’d rather listen to knowledgeable people like Michael Cox or James Horncastle talk about football than Kevin Kilbane (picked at random, nothing massively against him)  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted May 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 17, 2019 Does Michael Cox do anything talky then? I really like his book In The Mixer and his Twitter account is worth following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted May 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: Personally, I’ve never understood the fetish for ex players as pundits as much as we do in this country. Just because they played, they assume we’re interested in what they have to say I’d rather listen to knowledgeable people like Michael Cox or James Horncastle talk about football than Kevin Kilbane (picked at random, nothing massively against him) I can't imagine why they think players who played the game at the highest level might have something useful to say about it? They'll be giving them management and coaching jobs next. The problem isn't that they're ex-players. It's which ex-players they are. Particularly those who still want to be big mates with fucking everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted May 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 17, 2019 The biggest problem with football punditry, particularly co-commentary, is that they've forgotten what it's for. It's supposed to be to help the viewer understand the thinking behind decisions and decision making of the players, managers and refs. These days, it's just very obvious observation. "What's he doing, Fletch?" "He's just scuffed it, Fletch" "He didn't really mean that, Fletch" "He's caught him there, Fletch" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, tiger_rick said: I can't imagine why they think players who played the game at the highest level might have something useful to say about it? They'll be giving them management and coaching jobs next. The problem isn't that they're ex-players. It's which ex-players they are. Particularly those who still want to be big mates with fucking everyone. God, the dripping sarcasm off that first paragraph has just soaked me! Yes, it is what players it is, but they do just seem to give anyone a job as a pundit. I’d prefer to see a mix of ex players and those who know the game to be honest. @PunkStep The Mixer podcast was great, and he’s on The Totally Football Show nearly every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricc1PW Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I enjoy the organisations that can't get the famous or more highly sought after ex players so just get whoever they can to do a punditry gig. like Talksport who wheel out Jason Cundy and Ray Parlour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ricc1PW said: I enjoy the organisations that can't get the famous or more highly sought after ex players so just get whoever they can to do a punditry gig. like Talksport who wheel out Jason Cundy and Ray Parlour. Danny Dichio on Canadian TV springs to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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