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Think this is thread worthy. UKFF favourite Father Ted is coming back, in musical form. From the Beeb:

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Cult comedy Father Ted is set to return as a musical, its co-creator has confirmed.

Graham Linehan said the show, called Pope Ted: The Father Ted Musical, was almost written.

Fellow writer Arthur Matthews and the Divine Comedy's Neil Hannon, who wrote the show's theme tune and original music, are involved in the project.

Linehan said it would be "the real final episode of Father Ted".

He told the BBC: "It's like putting on an old pair of slippers."

The sitcom ran for three series between 1995-98 on Channel 4, chronicling the escapades of Irish parish priest Father Ted Crilly.

The musical will see Ted move from the fictional Craggy Island to his new role as Pope in the Vatican.

Linehan, who also created Channel 4 sitcom the IT Crowd and co-created sitcom Black Books, said the musical was about "the least qualified man in the world becoming Pope".

He said: "I didn't want to do anything like this until the right idea came along, and when Trump won and Corbyn won [the Labour leadership] I kind of thought, 'Maybe Ted has a chance'.

"I thought it wouldn't be too much of a stretch. Obviously we're pulling some shenanigans to get him into that position but I think the shenanigans are entertaining enough that people won't mind."

Everything about this is ticking the right boxes; has the original writers and the outstanding talent that is Neil Hannon doing the music. Despite that, in my heart of hearts, I think this is going to be fucking awful.

What are you thoughts and expectations? I'll probably post updates as they come. 

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I'm not really optimistic - I don't think Linehan's written anything particularly strong in years, though perhaps along with Arthur Mathews could still have the magic. Neil Hannon is brilliant, so hopefully could produce something decent musically (though I'm expecting he'll be all semi-ironic faux big band stuff), I just can't see the plot really holding up.

Saying that, Linehan has been saying for years that if he were to revisit Father Ted again it would be as something like a musical, as recasting Ted for TV would be wrong. So maybe it's an idea that's been knocking about for a while.

Ted as Pope sounds fucking dreadful, though - just missing the point of everything that makes the show work.

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11 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

Ted as Pope sounds fucking dreadful, though - just missing the point of everything that makes the show work.

This is so true. 'It's going to be the true final chapter of Father Ted'; if this had been the plot for the legitimate final episode, I would have assumed that Lineham had fallen over and hit his head on a table. The claustrophobia of Craggy Island is such an intrinsic part of the show. Saying that, it arguably could be ever more shit if it was based there, as the atmosphere doesn't lend itself to a musical format whatsoever. 

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I'm hoping that the Pope thing is just a title and not relating to his character or is about him being nominated by mistake (as per The Pope must die) and then at the end they realise it is a mistake. Some things are best left untouched and I just think this is one of those things, it had a great last episode, why fuck it up. My only hope is that they get Pauline McLynn to come back for it. However the cast in general was too iconic, not sure anyone else could pull it off.

@G_MoneyI was a fan of The IT Crowd which he did, but that is not going to be for everybody.

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9 minutes ago, westlondonmist said:

I'm hoping that the Pope thing is just a title and not relating to his character or is about him being nominated by mistake (as per The Pope must die) and then at the end they realise it is a mistake.

If the BBC report is true, it's going to be about Ted becoming Pope. Hopefully, it being a musical, it can all be written off as a dream sequence or something.

What made Father Ted is that it was parochial, in this insular, backwards community, and Ted was a complete nobody within the church but had delusions of grandeur. Ted becoming Pope is less Jim Hacker becoming PM and more dreadful Only Fools & Horses Christmas specials where they're millionaires in a stretch Reliant. It's just taking away the entire comic premise - there could maybe be a few laughs in how out of his depth he'd be, but I can't see that being strong enough.

What's frustrating is that Linehan and Mathews probably could write a decent sitcom set at the Vatican, without it having to be an extension of Father Ted.

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10 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

If the BBC report is true, it's going to be about Ted becoming Pope. Hopefully, it being a musical, it can all be written off as a dream sequence or something.

What made Father Ted is that it was parochial, in this insular, backwards community, and Ted was a complete nobody within the church but had delusions of grandeur. Ted becoming Pope is less Jim Hacker becoming PM and more dreadful Only Fools & Horses Christmas specials where they're millionaires in a stretch Reliant. It's just taking away the entire comic premise - there could maybe be a few laughs in how out of his depth he'd be, but I can't see that being strong enough.

What's frustrating is that Linehan and Mathews probably could write a decent sitcom set at the Vatican, without it having to be an extension of Father Ted.

Sadly this is hitting the stage next year as a musical. In reality I have no high hopes for sitcoms becoming musicals. It sounds too much like, "oh aren't we all crazy doing it as a musical" and give us £75 a ticket while you are at it.

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41 minutes ago, westlondonmist said:

My only hope is that they get Pauline McLynn to come back for it.

I really doubt they will, she was the only cast member (still alive) who wasn't on the Father Ted retrospective a few years back as she didn't want to keep being associated with the role.

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53 minutes ago, gmoney said:

what was the last good thing Linehan was a part of? 

Motherland. Really good sitcom.

So it's going to happen regardless, and will be good regardless because Neil Hannon. Cast will rotate every 20 minutes as per every other musical, and just the soundtrack will remain.

With that, let's stunt cast. Who for the four key roles? (Apart from @PowerButchi as Pat Mustard, that's a given).

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16 minutes ago, Gus Mears said:

Yes, he was good as Dougal, but dredging up the remaining cast members is not worth it because it would mean having to give the fucking useless Ardal O'Hanlon a pay cheque. 

I don't really have anything against O'Hanlon, not a fan or a hater just someone I couldn't care a less about. He only worked as he was kind of baby faced and innocent looking. He now looks like what he his, an old git.

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