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Likewise to Keith, was on them a while, took them first thing and took from memory a couple of weeks to get going. Then they changed me to Trazadone, then sertraline, then back to Citalopram...Tolerance build up, which is an annoying personal issue.

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11 hours ago, Chris B said:

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I'm on 20mg of Citalopram and have been for years, @Ralphy. I've tried to adjust the time I take it over the years and have settled on around 7-8pm. I've found that the best time as the wobbles it can cause tend to be overridden during sleep. As Houchen says, there's a tricky path of it messing you up before it starts to make a positive difference, but try to ride that out before deciding on whether it's the right medication for you.

Good luck with it, and good on you for speaking about your mental health issues openly. That in itself is a massive step.

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I'm not being funny when I say this but IMO antidepressants give you serious blue balls.

They really fucked up my sex drive and I'm not sure I ever recovered.

I've also seen people virtually turn into zombies who do little but sleep all day and people who became suicidal after using them.

It's not for everybody. IMO doctors overprescribe things like this just to turn a profit for the pharmaceutical industry.

Case in point: I was prescribed antipsychotics, even though I'm pretty placid and rational, just because I may have once mentioned having vaguely angry thoughts - as most teenagers/early-twenties males are want to do.

I took 20mg Lexapro IIRC.

If you do take stuff like this, do as others have said and don't take them piecemeal, take them consistently on a daily basis at an allotted time. 

Don't take them at different hours semi-regularly like I did and then quit cold turkey.

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On ‎02‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 10:21 PM, NoUseforaUsername said:

Don't take them at different hours semi-regularly like I did and then quit cold turkey.

So medication doesn't work properly if not taken as prescribed, is what you're saying?

 

I don't like when people write off any kind of anti-depressant or anything else as "turning you into a zombie" or whatever - if that happens, then either the dosage or the particular medication isn't right for you, and you go back to your doctor and have your prescription adjusted until you find what works for you. To write off an entire field of medicine that can be life-changing or literally life-saving for a lot of people is foolish at best, dangerous at worst.

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Also important to note that anti depressants are not all the same. If you get negative side effects, you're best going back to the doctor and getting some different ones. I had some rough responses when I was one them, but then switching them made a difference. 

Essentially, what nouseforausername said is pretty unhelpful, although it sounds like a rubbish experience for them. 

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I've been on Mitrazopine for a few years now to help fight the depression, but also to help combat the insomnia that I have had for as long as I can remember. 

I have never liked the idea of taking an anti-depressent long term, as my old doctor warned me they can become less and less effective(no idea how true this is). Has anyone had any experience with other medications that can fight depression and help with sleep?

Also, can doctors in this country prescribe Xanax? A friend used to get it from a dodgy deepweb seller and swore by it, but I don't fancy risking getting it unless it was through the legitimate channels... 

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6 minutes ago, SpursRiot2012 said:

Are you sure your doctor didn't mean that antibiotics become less and less effective?

That would have made more sense, but he did say the Antidepressants. He mentioned something about serotonin levels being permanently effected and only wanted to prescribe the Mitrazopine for a few years max. He's retired recently, so I'm going to have to see what the new GP says.

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22 minutes ago, Cod Eye said:

Also, can doctors in this country prescribe Xanax? A friend used to get it from a dodgy deepweb seller and swore by it, but I don't fancy risking getting it unless it was through the legitimate channels... 

It’s basically a benzo tranquilliser and can’t be prescribed through the NHS, it is possible to get it via a private prescription however. I personally wouldn’t go near them. As I’ve discussed earlier in the thread, the right drug taken properly can be incredibly beneficial. However, there’s the odd one which sneaks through that I’d personally stay well away from. I was one of the guinea pig kids for seroxat. Back in 98/99 at a guess. Completely fucked me up for around 3 years, including OD attempts. As soon as I was weaned off, I was fine.

Xanax is however one which I can’t be done with. It’s a bit like Russian roulette from what I can gather, your body will be fine with it or it won’t, and if it’s not, it’s horrid.

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I was recently diagnosed with Bipolar Type II.

It's taken me FIFTEEN years to get this diagnosis.  I've been on every anti-depressant you can think of. Citalopram, Prozac, Lexparo, Effexor, Amitriptyline, Buspirone... I'm sure I'm missing some, but the point here is that SSRI's & SNRI's can make Bipolar Disorder WORSE.  

I'm currently under the care of an actual psychiatrist (thank GOD for decent health insurance) and he prescribed me Latuda, Lamotrogine & Clonazapam. Regular doctors just push you out of the door with whatever antidepressant they can pedal without even listening.

I finally got fed up of my current MD and went to see a new one, he admitted he had no idea what do with me so referred me to a psychiatrist.

I have a fulfilling life, I have a very good professional job.  I have to work hard to stay on an even keel.

I get a LOT done during my hypomanic episodes but the come down is extremely draining.  

I've been through a ton throughout my life, sexual abuse as a child, mental abuse from step-parents, alcohol abuse.  I have an addictive personality, this isn't always a bad thing though as it means I throw myself into POSITIVE things with full force aswell.

I am still learning.  If anyone wants to reach out feel free.

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how are doctors stateside in comparison to the crappy ones (in my experience) here in the uk? The biggest problem i have is they are unwilling to offer help other than just chucking a box of pills at me and basically telling me to piss off! 

Anyone got any general tips for sleeping? despite being active, and having no caffeine, without my medication i just cant sleep much 

 

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1 hour ago, Ralphy said:

how are doctors stateside in comparison to the crappy ones (in my experience) here in the uk? The biggest problem i have is they are unwilling to offer help other than just chucking a box of pills at me and basically telling me to piss off! 

Can't speak for the USA but going to a doctor in Germany was interesting. I went for my first prescription and ended up with full blood work as a newcomer. She shit a kitten at my coffee and alcohol intake and when something was high on the blood work she was sending me off for an ultrasound which sadly I never got. 

Only after I returned and mentioned this to my UK doctor did I find out it was high on my last blood work years ago, but wasn't discussed. It's probably because I'm fat so loose weight and off I go. 

As I've said before on here I insisted on stopping medication until I better understood myself and how to manage me beyond medication. Without that knowledge I wasn't mature enough to manage the medication. It's just disappointing I had to push for that, as without that push from me it was just drugs and upped doses. 

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On 2/10/2018 at 3:01 AM, Ralphy said:

how are doctors stateside in comparison to the crappy ones (in my experience) here in the uk? The biggest problem i have is they are unwilling to offer help other than just chucking a box of pills at me and basically telling me to piss off! 

Anyone got any general tips for sleeping? despite being active, and having no caffeine, without my medication i just cant sleep much 

 

Try either Melatonin or Valarian Root.  Both are available over the counter and have worked great for me in the past.

As for Doctors here in the USA, the healthcare is better and faster but it's expensive.  My husband and I pay $600 a month for health insurance and even then that doesn't cover everything.  We have to pay $15 for regular doctor and $30 for a specialist.  We have to pay for all of our prescriptions if there is a generic brand of the drug it's cheap, but my Latuda is still under patent.  If I had no insurance it would cost me $2,000 for a 30 day supply, with my insurance it's $100 for a 30 day supply.  I recently had to pay $300 for an ultrasound (my ovaries exploded, whole other story) - so whilst there are advantages to being treated here in America, being seriously ill can bankrupt you. 

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On 10/02/2018 at 9:42 AM, Tommy! said:

Can't speak for the USA but going to a doctor in Germany was interesting. I went for my first prescription and ended up with full blood work as a newcomer. She shit a kitten at my coffee and alcohol intake and when something was high on the blood work she was sending me off for an ultrasound which sadly I never got. 

Only after I returned and mentioned this to my UK doctor did I find out it was high on my last blood work years ago, but wasn't discussed. It's probably because I'm fat so loose weight and off I go. 

As I've said before on here I insisted on stopping medication until I better understood myself and how to manage me beyond medication. Without that knowledge I wasn't mature enough to manage the medication. It's just disappointing I had to push for that, as without that push from me it was just drugs and upped doses. 

That’s really interesting, but now you’ve said it, it doesn’t surprise me at all that the Germans get it right.

Im a mare for doctors. I fully support the use of medication if the medication in question is exactly what’s required for a 100% confirmed diagnosis. The last time I went regarding a cough which I believe is sinus related, they got me to try an inhaler. I asked why, based on what, how will it help with sinus issues? Etc. I then asked before he signed it off to get another doctor to agree with his prognosis. He wouldn’t, so I said I’m not interested in the inhaler and wanted to see a different doctor... who shock horror, didn’t agree with the original prognosis.

Im sick to fucking death of seeing a different doctor for a follow who states “I would have gone down that route” in regards to a previous doctors approach. It’s happened twice to me last year and twice to my baby daughter. Bloody ridiculous.. it’s the same doctors surgery, how can some of them be so shit?

Good luck with your weight loss Tommy.

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