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There used to be a thread here years back about poker. It appears to be lost to the mists of time but it was back during the poker boom, post-Moneymaker. 

Anyway, I hadn't played any poker for a long time. Not because I didn't still enjoy the game but, well, life got in the way. 

With being laid up at the moment I've dipped back into online poker. One massive change is that the strategies of especially NLH have changed so very much. A decade ago, you'd read Doyle Brunson's Super System and the Dan Harrington books and you'd have a solid understanding of the game and do OK. Now everything has changed. 

I won't go into huge detail about all that. The reason for the thread is two fold. First, anybody here playing poker regularly, online or otherwise, and how are you getting on? Secondly, micro/low limit poker online is a crap shoot so I'm trying to find some places to play live in London so I can start to get to grips with how the game is played in 2017, but without all the players like you get online who just don't give a fuck for strategy. I used to play the tournaments at Aspers in Stratford but it was always a shitty game. Can anyone recommend some places to play low limit ring games and tournaments in London with a decent, friendly atmosphere? 

Any jokes linking poker to "poke her" will be disregarded. 

Cheers. 

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I have been into poker since I first came across it on Late Night Poker on Channel 4 in 1999. I was enthralled by the characters of Dave 'DevilFish' Ulliot, Simon Deadman, Vicky Coren and The Hendon Mob. As soon as I got a debit card I was playing cash tournaments online on UltimateBet then later I was playing on the Ladbrokes and WillHill sites. I was making decent money, I was averaging around £600 a month playing multi-table tournaments and sit-n-go's.

After a while I got a bit disillusioned with online poker and concentrated on live poker when the Stockton Grosvenor Casino opened in 2010. I was averaging cashing every 1 in 5 games which is good considering 1 in 10 got paid. My biggest live cash is £1600 and I must have made at least £20,000 over the years (I wish I had kept tabs on it). I have since played online and got my biggest cash last year on Pokerstars for $4,300. Unfortunately since the little Sardine was born I don't get to play as often as I like. Casino games usually don't finish until 4am and I wouldn't fancy facing the wrath of the wife! 

Regarding your question Riot, my favourite cardroom in London is the Hippodrome at Leicester Square. It is run by PokerStars and is a well run room but the only downside is the smallest tournament I have seen in there is a buy-in of £150. The neighbouring Empire Casino has a smaller cardroom but does tournaments that cater for the smaller buy-in. The Vic on Edgware Road also runs decent tournaments and is arguably the Wembley of British Poker. There are plenty of private poker rooms in London but I have no idea how you get access to them. For decent value all Grosvenor Casinos with a cardroom are holding 'The Christmas Cracker' event which is a £100 tournament and is over 2 days. The prizepool is a guaranteed £20,000 but will easily smash that figure. The North East one raked in £28,000 last year. The South East schedule is as follows;

 

Southeast and South coast

Tues 26th London poker room 4pm & Bournemouth 7.30pm

Wed 27th Southampton & Luton 7.30pm

Thurs 28th Brighton & Reading & Thanet 7.30pm

Fri 29th London poker room 4pm

Portsmouth 7.30pm & Luton 7.30pm

Sat 30th Day 2, Luton 2pm

I remember back in the day we used to have a UKFF private game online on PokerStars for a $5 entry. If anyone is interested in hooking that up again I would be game. 

3 hours ago, ianmingo said:

 

Would like to try playing in a tournament or something but I am not that good.

Do you have to pay to enter them at all?

 You would probably be best playing in a pub poker league which is a good training ground to get used to handling chips and to learn poker etiquette. RedTooth and TheNuts are the big players and there will be a pub near you that will be running event. It will cost no more than a tenner to play and there is decent prizes to be won including a trip to Las Vegas. 

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1 hour ago, jazzygeofferz said:

I had Phil Hellmuth Jr's Poker method book. I used to get by alright just playing safe hands on low stakes limit hold 'em tables like the early chapters, but then I'd get all ballsy and lose my discipline.

In cash games or tournaments?

In tournaments, you can generally get by fine in the early levels playing very tight, only going in with premium hands but the problem is pretty quickly people work out that you only go in with those hands so you're never able to extract maximum value from those hands. Nobody is willing to pay you off. That goes for cash games as well. In later levels in tournaments, that tight game won't work well because you'll end up blinded and anted to death. My advice is be willing to play more marginal hands to the flop and then, depending on how many are left in the pot and the range you put them on, try floating the flop and trying a bluff on the turn. It works a lot at micro limits. 

Post-flop play and strategy is so important, especially now it seems. You should play on 888, the games there are really soft and, if you're playing tournaments, the fields are a lot smaller than on the likes of Poker Stars. No matter how well you play a tournament on Stars, the sheers numbers in the field mean it's hard as fuck to cash. 

Yeah, @Glenryck Pilchards, I used to play those UKFF tournaments. I remember Jambo was a regular poker player as well but he doesn't post here anymore and, anyway, I think he might have given up gambling of any description. 

But yeah, would be up for setting up a Sunday night UKFF tournament if others are up for it. 

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We're talking about 10 years ago, but if memory serves it was just playing pairs of 10 or better or suited AK, AQ, AJ & A10 on c5/10 limit hold 'em sit & go online. The logic being some people will just fling money away due to the stakes being so low, and as long as you played the hands right you could do alright for yourself. It wasn't the most glamorous of livings, but it was a nice enough little dopamine fix.

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I actually run a Discord server specifically aimed at 2NL all the way up to 25NL cash game players and micro/low limit tournaments - so the whole server is aimed at very low level players, in terms of buy-ins. All NLH at the moment but that could change down the line.
 

I found existing user generated content around poker (forums and the like) to be a bit cliquy and for legitimate poker strategy questions to be met with derision. The aim of this Server is to learn, and to teach. To get better at poker, whilst helping those who might be a few rungs below you get better too. A work in progress, but please feel free to come and share some poker wisdom if you have any, or perhaps gain some if you're a bit short! 

https://discord.gg/fty4Hem

 

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Anybody playing any Winter Series games over on PokerStars? I'm probably going to play both the $2.5k and $10k GTD on Boxing Day and then the micro Main Event ($50k GTD) on January 7th. Beyond that I'll just pick and choose from various MTTs and SNGs until the Series ends, based on when I have the time. 

EDIT: Also, PartyPoker announced that they will be running a $20m GTD online tournament next year. I imagine they will be offering a number of ways to qualify cheaply or even for free via sats but, yeah, that's a big prize pool.

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Depending on family commitments I will be trying to play the Omaha8 during the Winter Series. Regarding Party Poker you can claim a free $22 seat if you register with Party Poker Live and pair it with your Party Poker account before New Years eve.

 

On Thursday the Teesside poker community will be gathering to pay respects to John Lau who died six years ago. In memory we are doing a £10 rebuy tournament with 30% of the takings going towards a local hospice. Last year we raised  £5k and we are looking to smash it this year.

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