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Rizin - New Years Eve MMA (Mayweather vs. Nasukawa)

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21 minutes ago, ColinBollocks said:

Incredible how much money Mayweather has made fighting folk making their boxing debut against him. 

Well in this case the figure is supposedly around $9 million. For that! Insane. 

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1 minute ago, Kfogg1991 said:

That's what I fucking thought when I was watching it. Why did it happen then what was the point of it then exactly 

Rizin are in a battle with themselves to top their New Year card each year. Floyd was their weapon this year, but because it’s Floyd he negotiated a set of rules that suited him down to the ground.

Rizin got eyes on the product (and a sell out crowd w/ inflated prices), Floyd got to piss about and self-promote.... the only loser was a young kid who didn’t realise he was playing the role of Huckleberry.

On another note, MMA fighters need to get over their collective obsession with boxing. Particularly when it comes to the best to ever do it. I get that they feel like superhero’s sparring in the gym, but in real life a professional boxer is always going to handle an MMA fighter in a professional boxing match. That’s some simple, Fight 101, Occams Razor shit.

And still attention has shifted to Khabib/Floyd.

Fuck off.

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18 minutes ago, Kfogg1991 said:

That's what I fucking thought when I was watching it. Why did it happen then what was the point of it then exactly 

To get people to watch? 

You watched it, Job Done.

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36 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said:

Well in this case the figure is supposedly around $9 million. For that! Insane. 

Ha. He's a cock, of course, but fair play. Getting that guarantee against a can is tremendous work.

Khabib probably ends up dying in the ring against Floyd.

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Yeah, Floyd seems dumb as fuck in every way except two - winning fights and commanding huge paydays. He’s a fucking genius when it comes to those two things. 

The thing is, what have Rizin got out of this? Whatever increase in eyeballs they got in the short term, is it worth it in the long run at the cost of $9mil and making one of your biggest potential stars look like a jobber? The only one who’s really gained from this farce, once again, is Floyd Mayweather. It’s not like all those Floyd/Boxing fans are going to stick around now and check out Rizin 15. Floyd’s gone and so are they. If Nasukawa somehow pulled it off, it would’ve all been worth it, of course. $9 million for Floyd’s ‘O’, the press it would get for Rizin and the revenue for the inevitable rematch...would be a bargain. But the gamble never paid off and Floyd wins a-fucking-gain. 

I hope Nasukawa at least got a nice payday out of this. 

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Thing is, whatever interest in this died on its arse when Floyd released that statement saying he was set up and no fight was agreed. We were all going into it stroking our chins in suspicion, but Floyd pretty much underlined what a money grabbing joke the fight is with that.

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I don't get the need of some internet fans to invent a conspiracy theory around the Mayweather fight. Leaving aside the fact that fixing it in the manner it played out wouldn't really make sense, it seems that people have bought into the idea that Floyd Mayweather isn't a puncher and that therefore his destruction of Nasukawa must in some way be suspicious.

As one of the more knowledgeable boxing heads on Twitter pointed out, the idea that Floyd Mayweather isn't a puncher is a misnomer. To paraphrase that gentleman's point, when he was in the ring at his walk around weight against fighters who outweighed him by fifteen pounds Mayweather wasn't getting many stoppages. However, when he was fighting at super-feather (130 lbs) guys weren't going the distance. Mayweather had nine world title fights at super-featherweight and won seven by stoppage. His KO rate falls off after he moves to lightweight (135 lbs) and beyond, and Floyd's most famous fights were at welterweight (147 lbs) and light-middle (154 lbs).

I don't know what Nasukawa weighed against Mayweather, but he normally fights at 125 lbs. Mayweather, back in the day, was a puncher against guys that size. Those guys were also world class boxers. So, the idea that Mayweather (older than he was in his super-feather days but also now in possession of a significant size advance) wrecks a boxing novice who would probably box pro at Super bantamweight (122 lbs) or featherweight (126 lbs) does not seem to need a conspiracy theory to explain it.

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9 minutes ago, nfc90210 said:

I don't know what Nasukawa weighed against Mayweather, but he normally fights at 125 lbs.

He weighed in ten pounds lighter than Mayweather. It was a complete mismatch size-wise.

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Totally missed that Kyoji Horiguchi submitted Darrion Caldwell. Pretty much cements him as the best Bantam Weight outside the UFC now.

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22 minutes ago, Chunk said:

Totally missed that Kyoji Horiguchi submitted Darrion Caldwell. Pretty much cements him as the best Bantam Weight outside the UFC now.

Yup, went 8-1 in the UFC as well, only losing to Mouse. I'd say he's very possibly the best bantam in the sport today.

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