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45 minutes ago, Vamp said:

I can't imagine Austin would have been anywhere near as selfless as The Rock was against Hogan. 

Anytime Austin lost on PPV back in the 90s he’d be up straight after the 3 count chasing the heels out of the ring.

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43 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

Hogan vs Austin would have been the Liverpool/United 96 cup final of pro wrestling.

Hogan opting for big fuck off baggy white slacks instead of the usual iconic red & yellow

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Going back to the invasion storyline....back then I was a proper WWE mark. Didn't know much about WCW/ECW, didn't even watch it or give a shit about it so for people like me I kind of get why they used Shane/Stephanie as it gave me some reason to get involved into the storyline in a 'holy shit, where is this going' kind of way.

In hindsight I understand why it could have been done better knowing the talent they had at hand and some they might have used. I remember asking my mate about some of the WCW superstars and he said most of them were crap and Booker T was a shit version of The Rock which told me everything I needed to know, not helped by WWE making many of them look weak anyway.

Would it not have made sense to have WCW take over Smackdown?  

Edited by Briefcase

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12 hours ago, Michael_3165 said:

WCW should have come in and mowed down the WWF guys. Really hammered them with the WWF guys having to pull out all the stops to overcome the big adversary. I am dismayed at how incompetent they were (though I do "get" that they didn't have half the stars). Booker, DDP, Awesome et al should have steamrolled over Taker, Austin and Angle. The problem was the simply wasn't enough big name talent to work. I would have bought in Flair earlier as the WCW frontman - furious at Vince for destroying the company that made him a megastar. The whole thing should have made mega money, not a damp squib. 

Mike Awesome should have steam rolled the Undertaker . . .

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10 hours ago, Briefcase said:

Would it not have made sense to have WCW take over Smackdown?  

Think this would've been impossible due to how relatively recently UPN had signed Smackdown up, plus the failure of the XFL only weeks before which UPN had signed up to. Of course everything needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, but the word was that WWE's television partners were pretty insistent on not turning their show over to what they perceived as a 'failed' brand.

I seem to recall WWE had a Saturday night repeat on USA at the time which was considered, but obviously nothing came of it.

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10 hours ago, Briefcase said:

Would it not have made sense to have WCW take over Smackdown?  

The original plan was for WCW to take one of the shows, or to get a new slot for it, but the networks told them to get fucked. In his first few WWF appearances, Booker T was a babyface and was meant to be the top guy in the WCW relaunch. But when networks said no, and fans reacted poorly to the WCW matches they tried out on TV, the idea to make it its own thing was dead in the water and they turned it into a heel faction instead.

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IIRC it was the Saturday night slot that ended up being Confidential that was earmarked for WCW programming.

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I’ve been watching some WWE on the network from 2002, the Eric Bischoff debut just happened - they really ruined it by having him appear backstage first right?

its kind of been airbrushed from history that him being announced as the GM isn’t his actual first appearance and we’ve all just seen him backstage with Booker T so are expecting him, I don’t understand why they did that.

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Just to hazard a guess, did the Booker T interaction take place just before a commercial break in order to keep people tuned in?

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Just now, garynysmon said:

Just to hazard a guess, did the Booker T interaction take place just before a commercial break in order to keep people tuned in?

Yeah it was, can't blame them for the way they did it, it's not like they showed him backstage then had him do a run in on the main event, the crowd was at fever pitch when Vince came out to introduce him a few minutes later 

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20 minutes ago, garynysmon said:

Just to hazard a guess, did the Booker T interaction take place just before a commercial break in order to keep people tuned in?

Correct, and at the top of the hour.

An all-time lame decision.

Edited by Liam O'Rourke

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At the time it was a ...wait what? Moment. Can see it being one people messaged people on msn etc to say you have to watch this, wonder if it worked rating wise 

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31 minutes ago, Louch said:

At the time it was a ...wait what? Moment. Can see it being one people messaged people on msn etc to say you have to watch this, wonder if it worked rating wise 

yeah, watching live I imagine it must have been an attempt to basically get everyone to text their mates to tune in, giving them the break to catch up. And an excuse for Booker T to do a "tell me I did not just see that". 

Whether it diluted Bischoff's debut as a "surprise", or whether in fact the debut needed to be a surprise is perhaps a broader conversation. Maybe the weirder thing was bringing in Bischoff as subordinate to Vince rather than opposed to him in the first place.

I distinctly remember seeing the photo on WWE.com the next morning of Vince raising Bischoff's arm and thinking "fucking hell, I need to watch this one when I get home". 

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Think it's pretty easy to knock it in hindsight but as I alluded to in a previous post, it was Eric Bischoff, not someone who was coming in to have a main event programme with anyone 

Fair enough he could've been a manager for someone in that position but even so, there's no really exciting way to debut someone in that way, doubt there's many people raving about Heyman giving Punk a lift 8 years later

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