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I'm sure I saw Tozawa do a german on the apron more than once, going back to that. Always looked safe but brutal, which is what he wanted I assume. 

On another topic why did Mr Ass have cartoon lips on his trunks and kneepads? He's Mr Ass, shouldn't he have had cartoon buttocks on his jocks? Or are they asses with the checks spread to display the sphincter and I've just never been able to see it, like an awful magic eye puzzle? 

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2 minutes ago, digitalversicolor said:

Taking that into account, when did Bad Ass Billy Gunn become Mr. Ass? And why?

There was a point where they were Mr Dogg and Mr Ass. I always assumed it was a Reservoir Dogs reference. 

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12 hours ago, TildeGuy~! said:

Arisa Hoshiki Vs Tam Nakano in Stardom this week was a bloody battle, kicked shit out of each other for a good 20 minutes.

 

I know I'm probably in the minority but I can't stand Hoshiki. Something about her just irritates me.

Decent match but about as predictable as it gets.

These days I much prefer Hazuki's under ten minute sprints, she's done a superb job of resurrecting the high-speed title.

The main event scene just doesn't interest me lately, outside of the odd faction match. Doesn't help that they suddenly stuck the red belt on Bea Bloody Priestley with zero build.

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12 minutes ago, The King Of Swing said:

I know I'm probably in the minority but I can't stand Hoshiki. Something about her just irritates me.

Her selling's shit and she smiles too much, I’m going to Wrestle Queendom and they’ve got her on the card as well as Utami and a Kagetsu Vs Mayu Iwatani matchup so at least there’s that to look forward to, 

Hazuki and Tam are my favourites on their roster at the minute, she had a cracking five minute match with Death, Death, Death Yama Death recently too but I’m getting bored of her constantly defending the high speed title against AZM.

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26 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

I always thought that first word in the X-Pac song was “EX-PLOOOOODE”. I don’t know why it would be but I guess he has pyro maybe?

Voice activated pyro. "Alexa, turn on the lights." 

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16 hours ago, MungoChutney said:

I was watching an old BritWres DVD recently and saw a guy taking a vertabreaker (badly, it looked like shit) to absolutely no reaction. I was at a Brit Wres show just after this in a similar venue and saw a huge pop for a backdrop.

In wrestling in general, I think a lot of the time you need to weigh up what you want to do with what the audience expect. Wrestlers always want to push themselves to try new things, or hit fancier, bigger spots, because there's a rush from that like @IANdrewDiceClay said, and because you want to try and get your shit in, to show what you can do.
But if your audience aren't a die-hard wrestling crowd, a lot of the bigger fancier stuff doesn't get over, but back drops, bodyslams and simple strikes do, because to the layperson they're far more immediately understandable. I've been at shows during a pre-show speech from the promoter who has flat out said, "tone down the lucha stuff tonight, this crowd will pop for a bodyslam". 

Obviously that depends on your audience. The crowd that are turning up for a big NJPW show are going to expect more than a holiday camp match. And, again, my issue is less with Naito and Ibushi doing this spot on the biggest stage, and more for the kind of indie wrestlers and indie crowds that will try and repeat, or one-up, this spot and others like it for more risk and less reward.

10 hours ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

It wasnt just me who thought Chris Warrens was yelling "X-PAAAAAAAAC!" at the start of the X-Pac theme was it?

It's not?! 

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I probably need to be clear that I wouldn't expect the Ibushi match to be full of back drops and "Shall I?" chops. My point is more about risk and reward. In general I don't think moves on the apron are necessary in any match, although I totally understand the need to 'ramp it up' on the bigger stage in front of a smarter crowd. I think they could easily have left this particular spot out without harming the match at all. 

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If anything, I'd drop apron spots because they're just overdone more than because they're dangerous. I don't know how it is in Japan, but if you hit an apron spot on a BritWres or US indie show, chances you'll get a group of smart-arses shouting "hardest part of the ring!" and having a laugh about it.

Compare that to the response when Kevin Owens first powerbombed Sami Zayn into the ring apron in NXT and it was sold like death.

I know wrestling is a world of diminishing returns, but I wouldn't object to a moratorium on apron spots so that when they do occur they can be a bit more impactful and shocking again. 

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