Random Thoughts III.

[PSF]

Have I missed it or have they mentioned that Sasha is the only women to be in Hell in a Cell, Rumble, Elimination Chamber & now Money the Bank? Seems like something they would be all over.

[TildeGuy~!]

 

[air_raid]

5 hours ago, PSF said:

Have I missed it or have they mentioned that Sasha is the only women to be in Hell in a Cell, Rumble, Elimination Chamber & now Money the Bank? Seems like something they would be all over.

You'd think. Except there's a weird thing where Sasha is never really the star. They turned her babyface to then have her lose decisively to Charlotte for a year, and then got overtaken by Bayley as top babyface. The heel turn has been delayed by over a year because presumably they didn't want to overshadow Charlotte and later Alexa as top bitch on Raw, then moved "the Queen" to SmackDown instead of her in that year's shake up even though a move and turn would have given her fresh matches with Becky and Naomi, and Charlotte had a phantom turn and trod water until the Asuka run.

Speaking of Asuka, SHE came over to Raw to become heir apparent so Sasha was never going to be top face with her around, then they put the belt on Nia just as Asuka was about to jump. As long as she's a babyface she's in the shuffle behind Jax and Rousey. She could be top heel if they turned her on Bayley at last and Alexa took a backseat for a while but they seem to want to spend a second year teasing that and never paying it off.

I think there's a very real lack of faith in Banks at the top, because she's been kept off the top of the division for ages and in her runs with Charlotte and Alexa she was made to look a loser at every possible turn. Shame really, I'd have her in Carmella's spot given the current state of the two rosters.

[Grecian]

My seven year old daughter just asked me if Big Show is a good or bad guy. Where do I start with that one...? 

[tiger_rick]

30 minutes ago, Grecian said:

My seven year old daughter just asked me if Big Show is a good or bad guy. Where do I start with that one...? 

Week by week tracker starting in 1995 - Go!

[Sheffbag]

18 hours ago, Grecian said:

My seven year old daughter just asked me if Big Show is a good or bad guy. Where do I start with that one...? 

17 hours ago, tiger_rick said:

Week by week tracker starting in 1995 - Go!

The squared circle did one up to end of 2014. don't know who's sadder, them or me for looking it up. 

THE LIST

(The Waterboy)
1. Captain Insano turns heel by insulting his biggest fan, Adam Sandler.

(WCW)
2. By mid-’96 The Giant is suddenly a tweener, or a face. Who the hell knows. One week he was feuding with the Horsemen, the next week he was facing Sting.
3. He was a face against a heel Hogan in their World title match.
4. Giant turns heel and joins the nWo weeks after losing the World title to Hogan. August of ’96.
5. Four months later Giant is kicked out of the nWo. Face turn.
6. Giant joins nWo Hollywood, thus turning heel in ’98.
7. January ’99. The week after the Fingerpoke of Doom. Giant is kicked out of the nWo again.

(WWE)
8. February ’99, Paul Wight jumps ship and debuts as a heel by interfering in Austin/McMahon cage match.
9. A little after a month later he turns face by knocking out McMahon.
10. 4 months later he turns heel by tagging up with Undertaker.
11. 2 months & a couple weeks later Big Show turns face when Albert and Big Boss Man do the FATHER IS DEAD storyline.
12. 3 months later Big Show turns heel when Rock refuses Big Show’s help against the New Age Outlaws, which pisses off Show and causes him to attack Rock.
13. 3 months later (Right after WrestleMania 2000) he turns face when he starts impersonating wrestlers.
14. Big Show turns heel by Chokeslamming Shane McMahon after Shane was recruiting guys to join WCW.
15. Three months later Big Show turns face when he aligns himself with Billy Gunn to form the Show Gunns tag team.
16. Big show turns on Steve Austin to join the nWo. April 2002.

17. Big Show returns from injury as a face in 2004.
18. Show and Kane attack Batista during the Raw vs Smackdown feud, injuring him.
19. Show starts feuding with Triple H in early 2006, presumably going back to babyface.
20. Big Show is drafted to the new ECW and turns heel at One Night Stand 2006.

21. Big Show returns at No Way Out 2008 as a face.
22. Immediately after that, he attacks Rey Mysterio and turns heel.
23. Shortly after that, he becomes a face for the Floyd Mayweather feud.
24. Five months later (Unforgiven 2008) he turns heel by saving Vickie Guerrero from Undertaker.
25. Big Show beats Jericho (captain of Team Smackdown) to earn a spot on Team Raw. Face turn. 2009.
26. Weeks later, Team Smackdown beat Team Raw at Bragging Rights due to Big Show turning on Team Raw.
27. April 2010: Big Show punches out Miz and turns face.
28. The Big Show was drafted to the Smackdown brand (he turned face and made pals with SmackDown general manager Theodore Long)

29. May 21, 2012: Big Show returns as a heel due to receiving John Laurinaitis’ “Ironclad Contract” after Laurinaitis had previously fired him, and knocks out John Cena
30. March 9, 2013: (face turn) Big Show helped Randy Orton and Sheamus against the Shield.
31: At WrestleMania 29, Big Show, Sheamus, and Randy Orton lost to the Shield when Orton was pinned after stealing a hot tag from Big Show. After the match, a frustrated Big Show knocked out Orton and Sheamus for repeatedly refusing to tag him in the match.
32: August 12, 2013 (face turn) Big Show returns from some time off to help Mark Henry and RVD fend off a Shield attack.
33: Show turns heel once again at Survivor Series 2014 by knocking out John Cena.

credit - Was Big show face or heel when you were 14

[The Dart]

How many of those involved him crying?

[D@mm]

Did you miss out the face turn on Eric Bischoff then him going to Smackdown and turning heel by attacking Brock Lesnar ?

[Sheffbag]

not my list. 

[D@mm]

Oh ok no worries.

[Arn Anderson's Darb]

On 5/28/2018 at 1:13 AM, Fox Piss said:

Just got into "wrasslin podcasts" and two things pop up frequently that bug me.

1. Arn Anderson wasn't that great. Unless his standing next to Flair nobody gives a fuck about him and his dad bod no matter how real he looked or how he could sell a injury. Corny trying to sell him above Sid just floored me.

Fuckin' what mate?

[Loki]

Just reading a comment about 50/50 booking earlier and it got me thinking.

Considering the number of wrestlers on their roster nowadays, the WWE really needs to start burning through people a bit more.  I know it sounds ruthless, but part of the problem is they're trying to keep everyone employed and in some way "over".  A decade or two ago guys would come in for a 6 month run, either succeed and become stars, or lose a whole bunch of matches and leave after a year.  That way the top guys almost never lost and stayed strong.

For example - why are Ascension still employed? Let them go and work the indies for a while, bring them back in a year or two if you need them.

I know it sounds heartless, but this "papa HHH" culture in WWE, them being a big family and such, is great and I'm sure it's a nicer place to work than in previous generations... but it's making the product boring.

[BomberPat]

On ‎6‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 11:01 AM, Loki said:

Just reading a comment about 50/50 booking earlier and it got me thinking.

Considering the number of wrestlers on their roster nowadays, the WWE really needs to start burning through people a bit more.  I know it sounds ruthless, but part of the problem is they're trying to keep everyone employed and in some way "over".  A decade or two ago guys would come in for a 6 month run, either succeed and become stars, or lose a whole bunch of matches and leave after a year.  That way the top guys almost never lost and stayed strong.

For example - why are Ascension still employed? Let them go and work the indies for a while, bring them back in a year or two if you need them.

I know it sounds heartless, but this "papa HHH" culture in WWE, them being a big family and such, is great and I'm sure it's a nicer place to work than in previous generations... but it's making the product boring.

I wonder if we could see that change, to some extent, if their proposal of running satellite brands in other companies takes off. Send the likes of The Ascension to work the new WWE Middle East brand or wherever. Cycle people in and out of the main TV loop, so that they're not all over-exposed all of the time.

[Daily Buzzard]

They should just bring back jobber matches. Guys got far more over beating up jobbers than they did having boring identikit matches against the same other midcard guys every week.

[gmoney]

Yes, to celebrate the 2 billion dollar Fox Smackdown deal, they should bring back jobber matches, and maybe localised promos for house shows.