David Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I just listened to Rogan and co have this exact discussion on the recent Fight Companion. They sort of made both points, in that clearly UFC would rather have Jacare in there, but Rogan said if Bisping keeps winning he'd surely eventually get a shot. Either way, he got his shot because he's luckily fit and is currently number 4 in the division.  The thing is, if Bisping had run into either of Jacare or Romero he's most likely not going to have kept on winning.  He's getting his shot now though, which is all that matters, but I don't see it ending well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 31, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2016 i just got asked to do overtime Sunday, i cant risk it, i cant be dealing with spoilers for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted May 31, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2016 I don't disagree David. As mentioned, Weidman/Rockhold/Jacare are as high level as a fighter gets, so Bisping's limitations will probably get exposed against such ridiculously elite athletes. Â But he's still competitive with most of the other middleweights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I don't disagree David. As mentioned, Weidman/Rockhold/Jacare are as high level as a fighter gets, so Bisping's limitations will probably get exposed against such ridiculously elite athletes. Â You can throw Romero into that list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2016 Basically, Bisping is the Hatton to Rockhold and Weidman's Mayweather and Pacquiao. A great fighter but he's got a ceiling to his skills where he'll always be below those top of the top, absolutely elite fighters. Â No shame in that. I'm sure he'll be disappointed if he retires having never held UFC gold but, when it comes down to it, he's had a really good career. 10 years in the UFC and still competing at the highest level, that's quite remarkable. Especially despite all his setbacks. He was the poster boy for the UK MMA scene for years on end as well. Until Dan Hardy came around Bisping was flying the flag solo. And Hardy never had the longevity of Bisping. The UFC were always going to come to the UK but Bisping made it easier for them and no doubt sped up the process. Add to that his TUF win, his win over Anderson, and his 'unbeaten in the UK' record, he hasn't done bad at all, has he? Not bad for a bloke who used to be a door to door salesman and work in a slaughterhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted May 31, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2016 I actually hope win or lose, this weekend will signal Bisping's last fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Basically, Bisping is the Hatton to Rockhold and Weidman's Mayweather and Pacquiao. A great fighter but he's got a ceiling to his skills where he'll always be below those top of the top, absolutely elite fighters. Â It hasn't just been those fighters though, he's always fallen short of the elite of the division. Before Rockhold and Weidman it was Vitor, and Chael in that title eliminator. Before that it was wanderlei, and before that Hendo sparked him in another title eliminator. Â He's always been just below the top three or so guys, which is why he never got that shot at Anderson in over eight years in the division. Â Again, I hope he wins, or at least looks competitive, but I think at 37 and with the injuries he's had it's a tall ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted May 31, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2016 Bisping's major problem has always been the lack of a serious weapon. He's strong all around, but doesn't possess KO power, elite wrestling, Jiu Jitsui etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidkris Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I really am hoping mike pulls out the win, but like it's been said above his 10 years in the ufc has been so much fun. He has pulled out some entertaining fights and some entertaining TUF seasons.  Him vs mayhem miller was probs one of my favourite seasons of the ultimate fighter. Banter, brutal fights and some rebels in the house aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Bisping's major problem has always been the lack of a serious weapon. He's strong all around, but doesn't possess KO power, elite wrestling, Jiu Jitsui etc. I always felt his GnP was underrated. He could be relentless on top of opponents when he smelt blood.  I agree though. Jack of all trades, master of none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted May 31, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2016  Bisping's major problem has always been the lack of a serious weapon. He's strong all around, but doesn't possess KO power, elite wrestling, Jiu Jitsui etc. I always felt his GnP was underrated. He could be relentless on top of opponents when he smelt blood.  I agree though. Jack of all trades, master of none.   Good point Jim. I agree with you, if Bisping can get into top position he can be vicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted May 31, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2016 Michael Bisping, Hall of Famer? Â Even if he loses to Rockhold does his career warrant a place? If the UFC honoured Griffin & Bonnar for their TUF exploits (granted Griffin won the belt) does Bisping deserve a similar accolade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Even if he loses to Rockhold does his career warrant a place? If the UFC honoured Griffin & Bonnar for their TUF exploits (granted Griffin won the belt) does Bisping deserve a similar accolade? Yes.  - First big international star  - Mainstay on TUF during its peak  - While not an elite fighter, one that skirted around the top 5 for an extended amount of time.  - Victory over Anderson Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted May 31, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted May 31, 2016  If the UFC honoured Griffin & Bonnar for their TUF exploits (granted Griffin won the belt) does Bisping deserve a similar accolade?  They split it into 4 categories though & moved Griffin & Bonnar to the Fight Wing.  Modern Era Wing Pioneers Era Wing Contributors Wing Fight Wing  http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/5/5/8554521/ufc-revamping-hall-of-fame-planning-to-build-a-physical-location  So it's not like Bonnar is a Hall of Famer as a fighter - he's in because of an important fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted June 1, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted June 1, 2016 ahhh yeah, i forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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