Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 21, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted February 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: As for Dave claiming hes fed up with the sport being a bunch of McGregor imitations, is that even true? Who else is out there pretending to be Conor? He did mention Gaethje earlier. Gallagher's the most extreme version of a like-for-like McG impersonator, but Gaethje giving it the big "I am" was a cringeworthy imitation. And Kevin Lee did something similar too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 21, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 21, 2019 Well there's only so many ways you can approach hyping a fight. Its all about the "big I am". Theres subtleties to it that seperate people but its basically one guy saying hes gonna beat the other guy up. As for Gaethje outside of mentioning money hes about as far from Conor McGregor as you can get from a personality standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 21, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted February 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: Well there's only so many ways you can approach hyping a fight. Its all about the "big I am". Theres subtleties to it that seperate people but its basically one guy saying hes gonna beat the other guy up. By the "big 'I am'", I mean the whole boasting about money, ratings, lifestyle, etc. Of course, there are plenty of other ways to build it up, but it does seem like a recent trend is to give it the old Nature Boy shtick. 29 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: As for Gaethje outside of mentioning money hes about as far from Conor McGregor as you can get from a personality standpoint. He is, and yet he was banging on about the money he was earning, and calling Vick "broke". Despite never having done that before. Much as I dislike the guy, and as hokey as his promos were, Chael Sonnen was retrospectively a breath of fresh air, because he was attacking Silva's attitude and doing the Roddy Piper thing of making it personal. And Cerrone saying to McG "come on up to 155, I'll bend you over and kick the lucky charms outta ya" was a great line too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 21, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted February 21, 2019 Cerrone is a good example. He’ll talk shit with the right opponent, he stands out, he’s popular etc. And not a bit of it feels inauthentic. When you listen to Cowboy talk it feels genuine. It doesn’t seem manufactured. He’s got to be one of the most loved UFC fighters never to win a title. And without resorting to banging on about money and moving needles and all that boring bollocks. It feels like he’s just being himself. Guys like Cerrone, Adesanya, GSP, Bisping and even, for all their faults and weirdness, the Diaz brothers - they just seem real. Realer than ‘Real Deal’ Holyfield. Like you know if you bumped into Bisping in a queue to get a kebab or something, he’d be the same as the guy you hear on his podcast. With someone like Gallagher, you’d probably meet him and think ‘he was surprisingly nice’ but then it just confirms that his discount McGregor act is all 100% shite for cameras. It’d be like meeting someone who plays a villain in a soap and finding out they’re actually a lovely person. They’ll never be as effective in that villain role again. Wolf tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Egg Shen said: Well there's only so many ways you can approach hyping a fight. Its all about the "big I am". Theres subtleties to it that seperate people but its basically one guy saying hes gonna beat the other guy up. As C-Bomb says though, too many of these guys have adopted the same approach as McGregor because they've seen him making money doing it, completely oblivious to the fact that McGregor acts like a money-grabbing wee fanny because that's who he actually is. The subtleties are what make all the difference, aren't they? It's what set the Randy Couture's and GSP's apart from the Ken Shamrock's and Tito Ortiz types. All of them capable of selling a fight, but they had their own way of doing it. 54 minutes ago, Carbomb said: He is, and yet he was banging on about the money he was earning, and calling Vick "broke". Despite never having done that before. Not only that, he was banging on about money despite the fact that he barely cleared six figures in his last fight when he main evented a FOX card. He wasn't even the highest paid fighter on the card! Or even the highest paid fighter in the main event! And there's nothing wrong with that, the guys only earning what he can earn, but if you're not pulling in the big money don't play the part of Money Mayweather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Really Big Shoe Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 9:02 PM, Egg Shen said: nah, i dont think it is. I think 5/Spike still get the European Series as well as a few others (probably the ones that air on Paramount in America, like 215). OK thanks Egg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 21, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, David said: As C-Bomb says though, too many of these guys have adopted the same approach as McGregor because they've seen him making money doing it, completely oblivious to the fact that McGregor acts like a money-grabbing wee fanny because that's who he actually is. The subtleties are what make all the difference, aren't they? It's what set the Randy Couture's and GSP's apart from the Ken Shamrock's and Tito Ortiz types. All of them capable of selling a fight, but they had their own way of doing it. Not only that, he was banging on about money despite the fact that he barely cleared six figures in his last fight when he main evented a FOX card. He wasn't even the highest paid fighter on the card! Or even the highest paid fighter in the main event! And there's nothing wrong with that, the guys only earning what he can earn, but if you're not pulling in the big money don't play the part of Money Mayweather. You cant knock fighters for speaking up really, its how you can get ahead. Also, the smallest amount of trash talk can be the difference between getting a big fight or not getting a big fight. I love trash talk as much as anyone, but of course i want it to be genuine and come from a place of authenticity. Its pretty easy to spot the chancers, but theres also probably some real good actors out there who pull it off despite being nothing like their on screen persona. But yeah, it is all about subtelties and sometimes you cant even put your finger on what they are. Randy Couture was one of the most beloved fighters in the history of the sport but never said a bad word about anyone, he just connected with people for some reason. It takes all sorts to make a connection, but if you have it and you continue to perform in cage/ring you are pretty much set. Anyways, good discussion but im babbling. So yeah, James Gallaghers fighting Saturday night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 24, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 24, 2019 did Mike Goldberg always do his "It is all over!" thing after every finish? it just get on my tits now, sounds phoned in now. Goldie's on auto-pilot. As much as everyone compares Gallagher to Conor, he fights nothing like him outside of similar standup stance. He did a good job, think he had a bit of a gimme opponent, but it was mission accomplished from a promotional point of view and getting Gallagher back on track. See them mention Dublin for September again, sure the plan will be to do Gallagher/McKee then or possible Gallagher/Bandejas 2. oh, and dont touch Gallaghers mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: did Mike Goldberg always do his "It is all over!" thing after every finish? it just get on my tits now, sounds phoned in now. Goldie's on auto-pilot. Breen made this point a month or so ago. Goldberg would be much more bearable if he did his research and wasn't as reliant on his old cliches. But a lot of fans tune in, hear his voice and find his presence rather comforting. A lot of fans grew up listening to Goldie's commentary and associate it with a golden age of MMA TV (the early TUF/UFN era on Spike/Bravo). For some, he's a nice nostalgia fix. For others, he's a pain in the arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 24, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 24, 2019 yeh, he constantly talks about old UFC fights too and UFC fighters. Its a bit like modern-day Bas where all he would do is reference old Pride fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 25, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 25, 2019 Sky have uploaded the main event again... Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted March 21, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted March 21, 2019 Not strictly Bellator really, but DAZN are changing their pricing structure significantly. https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/3/21/18275926/dazn-to-change-price-structure Highlights include: Customer's seem to fall into two categories - regular subscribers every month, and people that treat a show like a PPV by signing up and cancelling once they've seen what they wanted. DAZN currently charge $9.99 per month. For people wanting to sign up for one month at a time, that will change to $19.99. If you are willing to sign up for a year, the price will be $9.99 ( $8.50 per month). The current 'regular' subscribers will be grandfathered in and can continue to pay $9.99 per month for a year. After that point they will need a yearly subscription in order to avail of the cheaper rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted March 21, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted March 21, 2019 Seems that these new subscription channels are tinkering with their pricing system to get things right, as a one off yearly payment though the deal is pretty sweet like the ESPN+ thing. Alot of people are complaining but what you get get for the money is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Egg Shen said: Seems that these new subscription channels are tinkering with their pricing system to get things right, as a one off yearly payment though the deal is pretty sweet like the ESPN+ thing. Alot of people are complaining but what you get get for the money is pretty impressive. The problem with the one year payment deal is that these companies haven't been around long enough to guarantee that they'll still be operational in a year. Remember when everyone thought Eleven Sports looked great? With their "sweet" one-year deals for those wanted to watch La Liga and Serie A? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted March 22, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted March 22, 2019 Yeh thats true. I think DAZN and ESPN are a bit safer than that but i hear what you are saying. Is Eleven Sports still operating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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