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David Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Going by that reckoning then we can throw the likes of Rashad Evans into that category as well then? Rich Franklin too? Those guys have a couple of fights that finished in that manner. Â EDIT: And that Siver finish was a culmination of blows that ended with that shot putting him down. Â When I say one punch KO I'm meaning more along the lines of someone who regularly puts cunts to sleep from the off, like a Roy Nelson or a Mark Hunt. If we're going to consider Connor as someone who has one-punch KO power then basically 99% of UFC fighters have to be considered as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 10, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2016 Going by that reckoning then we can throw the likes of Rashad Evans into that category as well then? Rich Franklin too? Those guys have a couple of fights that finished in that manner. Â EDIT: And that Siver finish was a culmination of blows that ended with that shot putting him down. Â When I say one punch KO I'm meaning more along the lines of someone who regularly puts cunts to sleep from the off, like a Roy Nelson or a Mark Hunt. If we're going to consider Connor as someone who has one-punch KO power then basically 99% of UFC fighters have to be considered as well. Â Might want to put Ryan Bader, Jon Fitch, Jared Rosholt and Jake Shields in that category as well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah, basically everyone can be thrown into the discussion then. Â I don't know why there's this uber-defensiveness that some seem to have when it comes to Connor, but all I was doing was saying that he's more of an accurate striker who hits hard. Â If you asked me for three heavy-handed, one-punch KO artists the names I'd give you would include the likes of Hendo, Country and Hunt. Those guys are well known for fight-changing KO power. Â If you asked me for three accurate strikers who hit hard, but tend to possess more accuracy than straight out KO power I'd say McGregor, Machida and Wonderboy Thompson. Â Again, that's not a slight on the guy, it's just how I see it. His style is more akin to the guys I mentioned him alongside than any heavy-handed sluggers I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted February 10, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah, basically everyone can be thrown into the discussion then.  I don't know why there's this uber-defensiveness that some seem to have when it comes to Connor, but all I was doing was saying that he's more of an accurate striker who hits hard.  If you asked me for three heavy-handed, one-punch KO artists the names I'd give you would include the likes of Hendo, Country and Hunt. Those guys are well known for fight-changing KO power.  If you asked me for three accurate strikers who hit hard, but tend to possess more accuracy than straight out KO power I'd say McGregor, Machida and Wonderboy Thompson.  Again, that's not a slight on the guy, it's just how I see it. His style is more akin to the guys I mentioned him alongside than any heavy-handed sluggers I can think of.  Not really David. You can't possibly include the likes of Rashad when you compare their finishing records. Mcgregor has finished 18 of his 19 wins. An incredible stat.  To be fair, I don't disagree with you regarding your statement of Mcgregor's accuracy, he certainly has that. But that's part of the style Mcgregor often chooses to fight.  However, to deny that he actually has one punch KO power, despite you seeing from the posts above (outside of the Siver pic) is an odd one. If he chooses to, and the moment presents itself, he has that one punch KO power. 6 of his fights have ended in straight KO's.  If you can't accept that it's within is arsenal, which is the whole point of this, then I guess there's nothing left to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chunk Posted February 10, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2016 Different point then: when does a one-punch-KO stop being a one-punch-KO? I'd need to watch it again but my memory is that Mcgregor landed shots before that single punch put Siver down, but that it was very much that one punch that finished him. How much time do you need between shots and how much damage can you do beforehand, before it doesn't count as a one-punch-KO anymore? Â (Obvioulsy there's no right answer, I mean just in terms of opinion ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Fucking hell, I'm starting to remember why I'd stopped really posting here.  I'm not arguing that McGregor doesn't have the capacity to stop someone with one punch if the opportunity arises (most fighters have that ability), what I'm saying is that I don't consider him to be a one-punch KO artist.  He's fought seven times in the UFC, and has put one opponent away with one punch, and that was Aldo.  He clipped Poirier, but if he hadn't continued to apply punishment the fight wouldn't have been stopped on the basis of that one shot that rocked him.   For me, this is one punch KO power;      The guys in the GIF's above are well-known one-punch KO artists, capable of stopping a fight at any time with far higher frequency than most other UFC fighters.  As I said, McGregor to me is more a fighter in the mold of a Machida and Wonderboy, who is fast, accurate and who hits hard, but who puts his strikes together well to get the stoppage most of the time.  Anyway, I'm sorry I said anything. I simply don't have the energy to debate these small, trivial points. If everyone else wants to consider McGregor a one-punch KO artist, batter in. I've explained my point as well as I can really be arsed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herne's Son Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I agree with David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I agree with David  Christ, you're a brave man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted February 10, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2016 David, I'm not disagreeing with you, as you are right that in Mcgregor is more of accurate striker who hits hard.  The thing is, no one here has actually came out and said Mcgregor is a one punch KO specialist have they? You're arguing against something that no one has even insinuated.  All that was said at the very beginning is that Mcgregor has demonstrated one punch KO power against some of his past opponents, and it's a weapon that RDA will have to contend with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 David, I'm not disagreeing with you, as you are right that in Mcgregor is more of accurate striker who hits hard.  The thing is, no one here has actually come out and said Mcgregor is one punch KO specialist have they? You're arguing against something that no one has even insinuated.  All that was said at the very beginning is that Mcgregor has demonstrated one punch KO power against some of his past opponents, and it's a weapon that RDA will have to contend with.  I said that he caught Aldo flush, but he doesn't have a history of one-punch KO finishes. He stopped most of his UFC opponents with a flurry of shots, ending in a TKO stoppage usually.  RDA won't be worrying about being caught and stopped with one punch against Connor any more than he would any other fighter. He won't be making special plans to deal with that aspect in the way an opponent of Rumble, Hendo or Nelson would.  RDA will be more concerned with McGregors accurate strikes that arrive in volume, if he's smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted February 10, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2016 I agree with David, but then you have to factor in weight classes & how hard the lower weight guys hit compared to the KO artists he listed (which are all 205+, with Hendo borderline). Nobody has ever had that sort of power below middleweight, have they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted February 10, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2016 Whatever way you want to put it (and it's a combo of technique, precision and power) McGregor has the ability to knock your lights out if he finds the opening. Â Thing with McGregor is he has that Jones thing where when he gets loose he starts throwing not so typical offence, and he can use distance and space very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted February 10, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2016 I agree with David, but then you have to factor in weight classes & how hard the lower weight guys hit compared to the KO artists he listed (which are all 205+, with Hendo borderline). Nobody has ever had that sort of power below middleweight, have they?  I was thinking that too. I would say you have the odd few such as John Dodson, John Lineker, Chad Mendes perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted February 10, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah, Mendes has it too. Â A fuck it - it's a stupid debate when we get into these semantics - bottom line is, if McGregor lands flush on RDA, he's getting knocked out or going down immediately to be finished off as a formality - like Aldo, Brimage, Mendes, Siver, Poirier, and Brandao all did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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