Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 8, 2016 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 8, 2016 Yeah, Luger was WCW Champion after Flair left for the WWF. Â The second Crush was after his heel turn. He was never in the Rumble as the big orange babyface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSF Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Cheers for the clarification. When I think back to my childhood Babyface crush seemed to be around forever because everyone at school loved him, but that gimmick must have only lasted about a year. Mental! Â Surprised Bam Bam only made one Rumble too. Especially seeing as though as I've seen every rumble on a loop throughout January for the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted January 8, 2016 Awards Moderator Share Posted January 8, 2016 Okay, so I went down a rabbit hole tonight. Inspired by this thread, and by watching the 1997 Rumble the other night, I got to wondering about the oldest people in each Rumble, the youngest, the average age of each Rumble's competitors, and so on...  … below are my findings. Rick, if you want to take them for next year, please do. I have my workings-out on a document which I can send you if you want, with details for every participant.  I took all the ages off wikipedia so they could all be wrong. Also, while I've included the 'nearly made it's like Booger and Spike, the only person I have left off is Doink, because I wasn't totally sure who was playing him in either of his Rumbles, and couldn't find ages for any of the Doinks bar Borne and Lombardi anyway.   So:  1988 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Sam Houston, 24 Oldest competitor: Harley Race, 44 Winner: Jim Duggan, 34 Average age: 34 Total age of all competitors: 670  1989 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Shawn Michaels, 23 Oldest competitor: Bad News Brown, 45 Winner: Big John Studd, 40 Average age: 34 Total age of all competitors: 1024  1990 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Shawn Michaels, 24 Oldest competitor: Jimmy Snuka, 46 Winner: Hulk Hogan, 36 Average age: 34 Total age of all competitors: 1028  1991 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Undertaker, 25 Oldest competitor: Jimmy Snuka, 47 Winner: Hulk Hogan, 37 Average age: 34 Total age of all competitors: 1020  1992 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Shawn Michaels, 26 Oldest competitor: Colonel Mustafa, 49 Winner: Ric Flair, 42 Average age: 35 Total age of all competitors: 1060  1993 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Yokozuna, 26 Oldest competitor: Carlos Colon, 44 Winner: Yokozuna, 26 Average age: 35 Total age of all competitors: 1042  1994 ROYAL RUMBLE (not including Doink) Youngest competitor: Mabel, 22 Oldest competitor: Great Kabuki, 45 Winners: Lex Luger, 35, and Bret Hart, 36 Average age: 33 Total age of all competitors: 951  1995 ROYAL RUMBLE (not including Doink) Youngest competitor: Aldo Montoya, 21 Oldest competitor: Bushwhacker Butch, 50 Winner: Shawn Michaels, 29 Average age: 33 Total age of all competitors: 964  1996 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Aldo Montoya, 22 Oldest competitor: Dory Funk, 54 Winner: Shawn Michaels, 30 Average age: 33 Total age of all competitors: 980  1997 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Cibernetico, 21 Oldest competitor: Mil Mascaras, 54 Winner: Steve Austin, 32 Average age: 34 Total age of all competitors: 1007  1998 ROYAL RUMBLE (counting Mick Foley once in totals, but including all three appearances in averages) Youngest competitor: The Rock, 25 Oldest competitor: Terry Funk, 53 Winner: Steve Austin, 33 Average age: 31 Total age of all competitors: 929  1999 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Test, 23 Oldest competitor: Mr McMahon, 53 Winner: Mr McMahon, 53 Average age: 31 Total age of all competitors: 942  2000 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Test, 24 Oldest competitor: Bob Backlund, 50 Winner: The Rock, 27 Average age: 32 Total age of all competitors: 946  2001 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Jeff Hardy, 23 Oldest competitor: Honky Tonk Man, 47 Winner: Steve Austin, 36 Average age: 34 Total age of all competitors: 1005  2002 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Jeff Hardy, 24 Oldest competitor: DDP, 45 Winner: Triple H, 32 Average age: 33 Total age of all competitors: 1001  2003 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Jeff Hardy, 25 Oldest competitor: Booker T, 37 Winner: Brock Lesnar, 25 Average age: 31 Total age of all competitors: 931  2004 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Rene Dupree, 20 Oldest competitor: Rico, 42 Winner: Chris Benoit, 36 Average age: 33 Total age of all competitors: 990  2005 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Rene Dupree, 21 Oldest competitor: Ric Flair, 55 Winner: Batista, 36 Average age: 33 Total age of all competitors: 976  2006 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Chris Masters, 23 Oldest competitor: Ric Flair, 56 Winner: Rey Mysterio, 31 Average age: 34 Total age of all competitors: 1006  2007 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Kenny Dykstra, 20 Oldest competitor: Ric Flair, 57 Winner: Undertaker, 41 Average age: 35 Total age of all competitors: 1042  2008 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Hornswoggle, 21 Oldest competitor: Jimmy Snuka, 64 Winner: John Cena, 30 Average age: 36 Total age of all competitors: 1083  2009 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Cody Rhodes, 23 Oldest competitor: Jim Duggan, 55 Winner: Randy Orton, 28 Average age: 34 Total age of all competitors: 1027  2010 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Cody Rhodes, 24 Oldest competitor: Shawn Michaels, 44 Winner: Edge, 36 Average age: 32 Total age of all competitors: 973  2011 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Husky Harris, 23 Oldest competitor: Diesel, 51 Winner: Alberto Del Rio, 33 Average age: 32 Total age of all competitors: 1297  2012 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Jinder Mahal, 25 Oldest competitor: Jerry Lawler, 62 Winner: Sheamus: 33 Average age: 35 Total age of all competitors: 1063  2013 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Bo Dallas, 22 Oldest competitor: Godfather, 51 Winner: John Cena, 35 Average age: 34 Total age of all competitors: 1014  2014 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Seth Rollins, 27 Oldest competitor: Kevin Nash, 54 Winner: Batista, 45 Average age: 35 Total age of all competitors: 1040  2015 ROYAL RUMBLE Youngest competitor: Bray Wyatt, 27 Oldest competitor: DDP, 58 Winner: Roman Reigns, 29 Average age: 36 Total age of all competitors: 1075    Some trivia from the above. Subject to change because this has addled my brain a bit:  - Jimmy Snuka is the oldest person ever to compete in the Rumble, at the age of 64. - Rene Dupree is the youngest person ever to compete in the Rumble, at the age of 20 years, 1 month and 10 days. - Kenny Dykstra was also 20 in his Rumble, but he was born in March and Dupree in December, so Dupree was younger. - You're most likely to win the Rumble if you're in your early 30s. - Brock Lesnar remains the youngest-ever winner of the Rumble, with Yokozuna in second place. - Mr McMahon is the oldest person to ever win the Rumble, with Batista in second place. - Yoko is the only winner to have also been the youngest in his Rumble, and McMahon the only winner to have also been the oldest. - The average age of the Rumble doesn't really change all that much. Again, the early 30s tend to dominate. - However, 2003 has a noticeably younger average age than the other matches, at 31. - 2008 is the 'oldest' Rumble to date, with an average age of 36.1 (the 2015 Rumble is the second oldest, with an average age of 35.8). - 2011 has the highest total age; to be expected since it had 10 more people in it. Likewise, 1988 has the lowest because it only had 20 participants. - DDP was the oldest competitor in 2002, and again in 2015! - Shawn Michaels is the only Rumble participant to have been both the youngest person in a Rumble, and the oldest. - Booker T is the youngest-oldest participant, while Seth Rollins and Bray Wyatt, in a freaky coincidence, share the title of oldest-youngest participant - they were exactly the same age for the 2014 and 2015 Rumbles respectively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 "Jerry Lawler is the oldest person ever to compete in the Rumble, at the age of 62." Snuka '08 was 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted January 9, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted January 9, 2016 Good stuff. Â Harmonic, Doink in 94 and 95 will have been Ray Apollo, not that it matters. Â Some quick thoughts ; Â 1995 - 7 (Dick Murdoch, Jimmy Del Ray, King Kong Bundy, Mantaur, Steven Dunn, Timothy Well, Tom Pritchard) Â And what a pop he got. Â THE NEARLY MADE IT MEN1991: Randy Savage (18) (00:00)1994: Bastian Booger (25) (00:00)1998: Eli Blu/Skull (22) (00:00)2004: Spike Dudley (13) (00:00)2004: Test (21) (Stolen by Mick Foley)2005: Scotty Too Hotty (15) (00:00)2008: Finlay (27) (00:00)2008: Hornswoggle (9) (00:00)2015: Michael McGillicutty/Curtis Axel (6) (00:00) Â I think Nunzio from 2005 should be in here, whose number was stolen by Kurt before the match began. Unless you think that's not quite "nearly" enough! Â That 1996 Rumble was mental going into it, for me there was genuine mystique and intrigue surrounding a lot of what was going to happen - apart from Shawn winning, even as a 13 year old, that was fucking obvious. But looking at some of those guest names, I remember watching the weekend shows with little knowledge of the wrestling world outside of the WWF (save about three episodes of Worldwide I'd seen on ITV in 1993) and thinking "Who the hell's that, then?" Finding out Jake The Snake was coming back, I couldn't believe. As a kid as soon as someone had been out of it for a couple of years they always seemed like they'd be ancient and I was expecting an even fatter and wreckier wreck than we actually got. Then you had the bit on Jim Ross' Ross Report on The Action Zone where he was hyping up Vader coming in, and talked up that "a Diesel/Vader confrontation is a must-see" for the Rumble. And of course, that never happened. But then in the weeks between In Your House and the Rumble, shitloads of stuff changed. Off the top of my head I remember Buddy Landell, Dean Douglas and Bam Bam getting announced for the Rumble at various points but then obviously not being entered. The appearances/returns of Kama and Tatanka confused me too as they'd appeared to be quietly shitcanned a few months earlier. Â In terms of the show itself, my biggest disappointment being that the Gunns vs Sid/Kid match that WWF Magazine had promised me wasn't happening, because I wanted to see those idiot cowboys get powerbombed. Mind you, WWF Magazine also promised me Alundra Blayze vs Aja Kong and that didn't happen either. I was so confused, later in the year I sent a fax (!) to WWF Magazine asking if the women's division was on hiatus. They haven't got back to me yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted January 9, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 9, 2016 I was far too excited to see Doug Gilbert being a Apter mag devotee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 11, 2016 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 11, 2016 … below are my findings. Rick, if you want to take them for next year, please do. I have my workings-out on a document which I can send you if you want, with details for every participant. That would be great, HG. I'll work it in to next years stats if that's OK?  When it comes to ages, nothing ever astounds me more than the fact that Earthquake was 27 in the 1991 Rumble. He looked 45 minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big7thletter Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Something that pisses me off every year when the rumble comes around, despite how much I LOVE the royal rumble, is the fact that I just know that one day Cena will ALSO be a 3 time rumble winner, joint with Stone Cold. They just gotta put him on the same level before he retires so that the two biggest names of the past generation are joint for a while... it's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Showtime Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I never see evidence of that when I'm watching the Rumble, I wouldn't let that bother you. Besides, they can just say the match is simply harder to win these days (heh). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffbag Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Only thing to possibly add to Unique or Surprise elimination would be Savage and Miscaras both eliminating themselves in 91(?) and 95. Has anyone else eliminated themselves deliberately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieg1980 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Only thing to possibly add to Unique or Surprise elimination would be Savage and Miscaras both eliminating themselves in 91(?) and 95. Has anyone else eliminated themselves deliberately Kane in 99 when the men in the white coats came for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 12, 2016 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 12, 2016 Drew Carey did too. Â Savage didn't eliminate himself though. He jumped out but it wasn't planned so they just got on with it. One of those Rumble inconsistencies. Like Vader chucking michaels and others in 1996 but them being allowed to continue, despite the many other illegal eliminations over the years being OK. Â Reminded of another one. In the early Rumbles, they used to say you had until the next guy came out to get into the ring. Later on they dropped it when the angle suited. Like Jarrett attacking Owen in 1998 and Owen eventually entering after Jarrett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dart Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I was watching an old one, 1990 maybe, a few weeks back, and the commentstors said you have to be thrown out, you can't eliminate yourself. They obviously were covering a mistake, maybe it was Savage in 91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted January 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2016 It was 92 when Savage vaulted the rope to get at Jake, wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoChutney Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 It was and they do scramble for the explanation that you have to be propelled over the ropes even though someone else Bossman maybe, is eliminated when someone pulls the rope down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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