Paid Members Sergio Mendacious Posted April 7, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted April 7, 2014 Forthed. Â EDIT - fourthed. Making myself look stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Astro Hollywood Posted April 7, 2014 Moderators Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yeah, fourthed. Ian's great. I was made up that he'd emailed Meltzer like that (and it got picked up in the weekend update). Â Fine, FIFTHED. Â Billy D making me look dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEWM Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Wholeheartedly and lovingly 6thed. Ian's ace and so are the rest of you shits on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted April 7, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted April 7, 2014 I'll +1 that. Eighthed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators neil Posted April 7, 2014 Moderators Share Posted April 7, 2014 He's a twat! Nah, he's a solid prime time poster actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted April 11, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted April 11, 2014 This made me chuckle. Sharp, quick. Boom. Â (Mania spoilers, since removed) The only one I can remember being perhaps as big or as mind blowing is perhaps when WCW folded. There's a massive No Spoilers in the thread title WCW folded?? Fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It's amazing how life is. If I didn't fall in love with Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior in 1989 aged 4 I wouldn't have loved wrestling, which is probably my most defining attribute. If I didn't love wrestling I'd have never talked about it in school and made loads of friends through it, I'd never have discussed it online and made loads of good friends there. I certainly wouldn't have got involved in it as a way of making (beer) money having a great time working shows, small role as I am, in front of 100s of kids at their first show believing in a Stevie Starr or Matt Vaughn or hating a Bolt and me making some great friends there as I did it. I'd have never have read Millard's writing. Frankie Crisp wouldn't have bought me a lap dance and put my coat in a bin. I wouldn't have realised that 2 weeks before I was born a clone of me was called Ian was in Sunderland. I wouldn't have seen a future superstar like The Omega from the ground up. Me and Philo Vance wouldn't have known we had a best mate in common. And I wouldn't post here and consider it the home I don't sleep in. So many of us have talked, and become friends with people we normally wouldn't have. All because when we were kids we turned on the telly and saw The Ultimate Warrior. When I think about it like that, The Ultimate Warrior had a massive impact on my life. And for that, RIP and I'll Always Believe. And long live Professional Wrestling. And long live friendship, for that's how his spirit lives on.  Butch from the Warrior thread. Lovely post that sums up perfectly why we all have such a deep attachment to such an ostensibly silly thing such as professional wrestling, and to its stars.  Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted April 12, 2014 Awards Moderator Share Posted April 12, 2014 Seconded wholeheartedly. That whole thread has been really sincere and genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Nick James Posted April 19, 2014 Paid Members Share Posted April 19, 2014 Warrior also hated ex-wrestlers who still did steroids and Warrior was obviously taking more than vitamins. He also hated the weak minded (even though he had a history of anxiety pill abuse to get him through the day). I dont know if he was homophobic. You dont let wrestlers watch you shower for their own thrills if you're homophobic. Maybe his anti-gay comments were to deflect from the rumours that his ex-wife was laying into him (that he had a public face way different from the private one). Outside of the Brooklyn Brawler, I dont think there has ever been more rumours about a wrestlers sexuality than Warrior. His stripper ex-wife, Missy Hyatt (who knew him before he was a wrestler) and the Nation Enquirer all swore blind Warrior used to be a gay male escort. And for lawsuit happy Warrior not to be firing the lawyers round, that speaks volumes. Usually homophobia means you cant stand gays. But Warrior loved Pat Patterson. A high profile homosexual who he spent every day with for years. They were as big a pair of friends as you can get. Pat refused to do the Self Destruction DVD. Patterson pretty much gave Warrior a career, because without him Warrior's matches would have been beyond horrendous. I read some outrageous things he said regarding gays, but you also have to look at the type of person who is saying it. He was a publicity rat in many ways. He was shock jock-esque in the things he said. Even that video he did about Hogan, it was all to publicize some online subscription thing he was doing. He buried Hogan to get on TMZ to sell his subscriptions. I've followed Warrior since about 1998 on the internet and his writings were always an inconsistent mess and he'd always lay a big shocker in them to get hits and keep his name out there. So maybe all he's guilty of is being another Hulk Hogan/Macho Man type. They say all this shit to keep the work going. For me the shouty nutter you saw on the internet was possibly as big of a work as the bloke who wore the tassels and facepaint. What attracted him to people is probably that nobody actually knows. Hence why he's such a star. In all my time as a fan I'd heard he's died several times, his arms were amputated, he was a homosexual, a homophobe, he was fat with a skin head, he was coming back, he was retired, he was skint living above a stripclub with Pillmans ex-wife. He was such a mystery, who knows what the real truth is.  All I know is a lot of people saw someone who loved his kids and his kids loved him and he is no longer around after making friends with everyone who he'd previously bashed. Its a damn shame he's not around anymore, so I'm not going to hang anyone from the lamp post because they are sad he's not around. He showed enough over the last few weeks to show me he wasn't a bad guy. And if we were going to not comment on wrestlers who were pricks, nobody would ever post here. Most of them have prick tenancies and have done horrible things.  This post from Ian regarding Ultimate Warrior being labelled a Homophobe is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Yeah, I liked that post. Mainly because it doesn't discount the possibility that Warrior was a prick at times, but tries to explain why that shouldn't mean its not sad he's dead. Â He didn't kill anyone, nor lynch any gay folk. He just had opinions (misguided opinions, sure) if anything. Â But, yeah, great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 One more for Ian on Warrior. Excellent rebuttal to the "BUT HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT GAYS THAT TIME SO WE SHOULD ALL HATE HIM FOREVER" post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Is that really any better than actually being a bigot? I see what you're doing with the calculated synopsis of his life, letting us draw our own conclusions and all that, but it doesn't amount to much if we decide that preaching hatred against minorities for your own gain really isn't cricket. Little Johnny being pretty excellent. And it's true, when you put someone on a pedestal, you have to put every part of them on it. Warrior said some disgusting things in his life, his rape jokes about Hogans son being one of them. As usual, we have a bunch of non minorities telling minorities not to be offended. A bad analogy, but it's like Liverpool fans defending Suarez and his racism because of his shirt. Â Warrior wasn't a technical genius in the ring but who really cared about that? I remember the first time I saw him and was blown away. That's what I wanted from wrestling, superheroes battling it out, speaking like an ancient Titan. That's the Warrior I remember. Once you start with the man behind the mask, so to speak, then you have to take on board every facet. Yes he loved his kids but he was an arsehole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 As usual, we have a bunch of non minorities telling minorities not to be offended. Fair point. We should only ever have non minorities telling minorities to be offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 As usual, we have a bunch of non minorities telling minorities not to be offended. Fair point. We should only ever have non minorities telling minorities to be offended. Or alternatively, we could not dismiss their offence and actually listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Waiting for the minorities to get offended and listening seems like a waste of time that could be spent getting offended for them from the off. What if we ended up with a minority that didn't care about something a mad wrestler said ten or twenty years ago in between writing comics where he bums Santa? Then we wouldn't even get chance to wring our hands at all. And the biggest crime of all is anything that robs us straight white men of the chance to wring our hands over what we perceive to be a minority's suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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