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44 minutes ago, wordsfromlee said:

Is Triple H heel WWE COO or face NXT head?

Faces and heels matter about as much as wins and losses, bruda. 

Although considering he's rolling with the NXT kids, presumably this is face Triple H. I'm surprised he's not brought out the "off to see Metallica with Steph" coat yet. 

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Triple H's inconsistent character is probably my least favourite bit of WWE booking over the last 10 years. Hate it. Combining it with Brand Warfare, We're All Mates Because We Wear The Same Shirts is a recipe for disaster.

I've gone on this rant before, but "brand warfare" could be a compelling story. But it never is, because they always stick to such a dull, surface level version of it. It all seems so obvious to me what the problems are, and how to at least attempt to solve them, but they clearly don't give a toss.

  • Why do wrestlers care about "brand supremacy"? Why are they loyal to RAW or Smackdown, to the extent they're prepared to team with people that, just last month, may have been hated rivals? What's in it for them?¬†Especially¬†when many of these wrestlers were only drafted to their respective brands a matter of weeks ago.¬†
    It was, in some ways, even worse with GMs, because invariably you'd have babyface wrestlers now gladly working with a heel GM that a week before was making their life hell.

    That said, this is about the only time I think more involvement from authority figures would make sense. A heel GM for RAW, a face for SmackDown (for example), could explore why wrestlers would fight for their brand. A face GM might be able to rally the troops with little difficulty, as they are already respected, but may have to offer a title shot, or some other incentive, to a notable heel to win their services. A heel GM, meanwhile, could manipulate and bully wrestlers into joining their team - threaten punishment to anyone who doesn't beat their Smackdown counterpart at Survivor Series, make someone's life hell until they agree to work with them.

    NXT, though, as much as there are rivalries between the wrestlers that shouldn't be ignored just because they wear matching shirts, make sense as a unified front. Their branding is "We Are NXT", they're presented as already having a sense of collective effort, and they have more to prove. Especially with Triple H riling them up.
     
  • But then the problem is with Triple H. Because cool NXT Dad who loves Indie Wrestling, and does big dramatic intros to NXT Takeover then sticks around to have a chat on Facebook, is the same guy who hates Daniel Bryan, and spent¬†years¬†as a corrupt corporate suit. This should be the time to actually explore that dichotomy. Because he's not the GM of NXT - William Regal is. I'd have this exposed as Triple H using NXT wrestlers as part of an attempted power grab, and Regal be the one to expose him. If they're not confident in Regal doing the heavy lifting for the angle, use Shawn Michaels.
    You could go as far as saying that Triple H is weaponising NXT, and has been all along, to shape WWE into something he can control. It invariably becomes a McMahon Drama angle, but I think it can work. That way, it pivots into a "Corporate WWE vs. Plucky Underdog NXT" angle, which justifies the occasional main roster talent popping up in NXT for a ratings boost, but as part of a broader, more compelling storyline, and it rationalises the dichotomy of Triple H's character.
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19 hours ago, Kamaras-Tash said:

Im in the minority I know but I fucking hate that Montez Ford fella, he can talk and has charisma which I can see  but jesus I'd probably change the channel if it wasnt 3am

Or you could go to sleep.

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Why are wrestlers prepared to team with hated rivals and defend their brand having being on the opposite brand a few weeks before?

 

well I don't know, but it's possibly the same reason the likes of Sol Campbell could turn out for Arsenal having being a Tottenham player just a week before.

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11 minutes ago, Pinc said:

Did any of the Arsenal players routinely assault/attempt to murder Sol Campbell while he was a Spurs player?

well no, obviously, but I would imagine that's what we're supposed to believe now. Raw pays wages, and Smackdown pays wages. not WWE.

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1 hour ago, Ricc1PW said:

well no, obviously, but I would imagine that's what we're supposed to believe now. Raw pays wages, and Smackdown pays wages. not WWE.

You'd have to imagine it because they've never attempted to explain it. They're not currently even explaining who is behind the Raw crew fighting back against NXT. We know HHH is leading the NXT charge but neither Raw nor Smackdown have anyone in charge. So these people aren't fighting for anyone or anything.

Not that it matters anymore than the rest of the output at the moment.

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3 hours ago, Ricc1PW said:

Why are wrestlers prepared to team with hated rivals and defend their brand having being on the opposite brand a few weeks before?

 

well I don't know, but it's possibly the same reason the likes of Sol Campbell could turn out for Arsenal having being a Tottenham player just a week before.

Arrogance. None of them want to be on the losing brand. For the most part, teaming up makes more sense now when most of the feuds are about competition/titles, compared to the original brand split when they still did storylines and were threatening to have monkey sex with each other’s wives. 

It’s only really NXT that’s dodgy now, if they’ve got lads doing Wargames against each other on the Saturday out of pure hatred but then being mates on the Sunday.

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Usual caveat of YouTube highlights but that was a really good show. Rollins being a douche to everyone, eating a stunner from KO, then seemingly aligning with AOP was great for him.

Lining up four guys for AJ and having a fatal fourway is WWE 101 but it worked for a fun title change and set up Styles with Orton who he has good chemistry with. Hopefully this gets the title onto McIntyre because he needs something. 

That was one of the best green mistings ever. Ref looks a bit of a dumb fuck though.

Really not sure what I think of Stone Cold Rusev. This storyline should be death but he does keep getting a reaction.

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