Paid Members Supremo Posted July 22, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) I’ve mentally prepared myself for the show to be a lazy, boring parade of guys from the past, with no interesting or exciting angles or interactions. Imagine having all those stars at your disposal for one night though. It’d be a joy to write them into the show and have them mix it up with the current guys in matches or backstage angles. At the very least, I’d have a few of the guys win the 24/7 title as the show goes on. I also feel like putting Becky in the ring with guys like Austin, Cena and Hogan to endorse her could do wonders for getting her back on track. I'd also get a kick out of Stone Cold and Kevin Owens bickering backstage about how does the best Stunner. Edited July 22, 2019 by Supremo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seratonin Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 57 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said: All the hate for this show already seems misguided. The main shows are currently directionless drivel without anywhere near the star level required to carry such poor material. This show will have no long term ramifications, and may well be directionless drivel too: but it’ll have star power, at least. I’ll take it. If WWE were to become the short-term, dopamine-hit, star-power nostalgia show and AEW the star-free alternative? Deal. Still better than AEW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 hours ago, d-d-d-dAz said: All the hate for this show already seems misguided. The main shows are currently directionless drivel without anywhere near the star level required to carry such poor material. This show will have no long term ramifications, and may well be directionless drivel too: but it’ll have star power, at least. I’ll take it. If WWE were to become the short-term, dopamine-hit, star-power nostalgia show and AEW the star-free alternative? Deal. I take it back. This show was worst than I could have ever imagined. At first I thought they were just randomly chucking old people out there without rhyme and reason, but after listening to Austin's promo it was clear what this was: a rewriting of their corporate identity ahead of AEW making it to TV. WWE is wrestling history, it is the real pro-wresting family and it's traditional and American as apple pie. They are leaning into being 'America's choice', and their history and nostalgia, to characterise AEW as upstart pissants. It's not a bad idea, it was just a waste of 3 hours of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGABUCKS Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Watched Raw after a very long time. All I have to say was the crowd was dead all night and only came alive (just about) for Stone Cold. Stone Cold truly is a proper wrestling megastar. Seeing Hulk and Austin in the ring together is a special sight. The whole show itself was a waste of time so I understand that dead crowd. They had Nash and Hall there but they end up doing the same boring shit everytime. Crazy how they get portrayed on shows now when back in the day they ruled it when business was red hot. Just a waste of their time, our time, everyones time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted July 23, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) I know it's damning with faint praise, but this was still much better than Raw 25. - There were a handful of fun 24/7 moments. Brisco in particular was brilliant. Drake crying about the limo driving away with the belt rather than his wife was also great. - Bray Wyatt continues to look the absolute business. Fair play to Mick Foley, too. He's a creepy tramp but the scruff's always willing to put someone over. Fingers crossed Wyatt uses the Mandible Claw going forward. - They've finally abandoned the no-wrestling-during-the-ad-breaks thing! Thank fuck. What a crazy couple of weeks that was. Vince is nuts. - Strowman's squash was delightful. A complete pasting. - Jimmy Hart handing Ron Simmons his megaphone was a genuinely creative and funny take on the whole, "Damn!" thing. Much better than what we usually get. - Stone Cold Steve Austin is an incredible man. Went out there with literally nothing to say and it was still one of the best promos of the year. That's probably about it in terms of highlights though. Other than that it was mostly a bad show that didn't help put over any of the current roster. Roman looked like a complete chump getting beaten up for about 90% of his segment with Joe only to score the win with a Spear out of nowhere, Becky's tumble down the card continues and Seth Rollins legitimately looked like a Make-A-Wish kid getting to do the DX catchphrase will all the proper stars. Also, why was everyone dancing backstage when there was no music playing? So weird. Maybe it's been going on for weeks and I've just not noticed before, but I can't decide whether Rene Young is taking the piss with her commentary or not. I know the WWE announcers always sound completely inauthentic, like their soul is dying live on air, but this was the first week where it honestly felt like Rene was being extra fake and shit on purpose, like she's on the wind up. Anyone else noticed? Edited July 23, 2019 by Supremo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGABUCKS Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Supremo said: Maybe it's been going on for weeks and I've just not noticed before, but I can't decide whether Rene Young is taking the piss with her commentary or not. I know the WWE announcers always sound completely inauthentic, like their soul is dying live on air, but this was the first week where it honestly felt like Rene was being extra fake and shit on purpose. Never heard her on commentary before but she was crap tonight. She just doesnt bring anything to the team apart from the fact she's a pretty woman. The whole announce team infact has no soul. Edited July 23, 2019 by MEGABUCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I guess it depends what you were looking for as to whether you found that show enjoyable or shit. I thought it was a fun watch but certainly didn't have any real impact on the current direction of the product. As a long time fan I do get a kick out of seeing the old faces and it was nice to see a few different ones this time. And at least it wasn't in two venues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted July 23, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2019 Stone Cold looks to have taken 10 years off himself since last time I saw him; looks in tremendous shape. Easily the highlight of a fairly dull show was Austin's bit at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bus Surfer Posted July 23, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2019 Austin was fantastic. Had everyone in the palm of his hand and looked to be having a ball of a time. Looks in the best shape he has in years. I know he's made of dust these days, but I really wonder if he's thinking of putting on some smoke and mirrors outing for a Saudi payday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideload90 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 The Cena return, Bray battering Foley, the 24/7 title shenanigans and a quality promo (about nothing in particular) from Austin at the end are highlights. I would love to see one more match from Austin and would take the risk of it being shit just to see the spectacle but there's more chance of Bossman winning the rumble than that. The Kilq moment? *Insert Alan Partridge gif here* it's almost at the point where I'd rather just save reunions for WM weekend as it didn't further anything. The commentary on raw is also terrible, even on the highlights it's just so forced and scripted that it takes away from the moment. "Oh my he's using Foley's move!" Thanks Michael Cole for enlightening us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaitoRyo Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRooster Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I’m amazed that they didn’t do some sort of big angle to encourage people to keep watching. I don’t necessarily even mean something most people would consider good, they didn’t even do the kind of big angle Vince might be into (‘who flushed Roman’s head down the toilet?’, ‘Baron Corbin leads stable of heels down to attack Roman’, ‘Lacey Evans kisses an unconscious Seth Rollins on the cheek and the announcers speculate about what this means for his future with Becky’) - they just wheeled out a bunch of legends and said ‘member this? Whoever said they were trying to frame themselves as part of America’s history ahead of the AEW TV debut is probably spot on.l, which means we can probably expect more of this going forward. ‘If you don’t like us you’re an America-hating-socialist-bastard WATCH SMACKDOWN ON FOX’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, SaitoRyo said: “Hey fellas, can I join?” ”Sorry, no Seths” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator Onyx2 Posted July 23, 2019 Awards Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2019 Stone Cold's promo was brilliant, the guy just has the ability to deliver any old guff with intensity and conviction. Apart from... "I met up with..." WHAT "...the one and only..." WHAT "Hulk Hogan." WHAT "We had some beers..." WHAT "... and some sushi." Er, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted July 23, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 23, 2019 To be fair to them, I went out of my way to download the thing out of curiousity which was very obviously the aim of this show. Like everyone, I expect, I was waiting for the big angle to draw me in for next week but it just never came. Instead we got a very good but very cynical Austin promo designed to paint the company in a much better light than usual. I don't blame them one bit. I only mentioned yesterday how they have positioned themselves as the heels which is baffling to start with. So yeah, I'd do that too. What that won't do is make me tune in next week. Nothing on the show would. It wasn't all bad but the good bits were almost entirely throwaway shit using the one night only crew or Maverick and Truth doing the same thing they've been doing for the last 87 years and we see for free on Twitter. Echo the points on the commentary. I think it's supposed to be upbeat, friendly, warm, comforting but it's just painful. Renee, who I adore, is particularly awful with her faux excitement. Of the current stars, I can't think of many who came out of this looking cool. Bray Wyatt obviously. Strowman and War Raiders looked strong in squashes. And no-one else. Not even remotely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts