King Pitcos Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 9:27 AM, ColinBollocks said: Pre-Roman, I'm guessing. Nah, before that, it was complaining about Cena - and before him, Triple H. Even with WrestleMania X-Seven, people moaned about the build to Rock vs Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted December 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 12, 2018 To be fair, the build for that with all the Debra stuff was pretty rubbish. They sorted it out by the end though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mole Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, PunkStep said: 2018 and people are still talking about ratings and comparing them to previous years as though nothing has changed in how we watch tv. Such a weird obsession wrestling fans have with ratings. Exactly, I've no idea the DVR ratings, Hulu, YouTube etc, USA Network & Fox didn't pay a fortune for nothing, even these numbers are bigger than almost all the shows on Cable TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkchopcash Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Tbf if they mention shit like that on tv, (i assume they did, i didnt watch it myself), surely it’s going to provoke some sort of discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members quote the raven Posted December 13, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 13, 2018 Fox cancelled a shit ton of shows for performing badly. https://www.google.com/amp/s/tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/fox-2017-18-season-ratings/amp/ Then signed smackdown for a reported billion. I would think the tv stations would want a product preforming well to sell the advertisers. When wwe are admitting the ratings stink and the arenas are not at capacity on their own show I suggest there is an issue. My post was to show that it dropped even lower this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted December 13, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 13, 2018 14 hours ago, PunkStep said: 2018 and people are still talking about ratings and comparing them to previous years as though nothing has changed in how we watch tv. Such a weird obsession wrestling fans have with ratings. That argument doesn't stand up when you're comparing it to a year ago. There hasn't been a revolution in 2018. The "obsession" comes from the fact the two biggest names in the history of pro-wrestling on TV decided they are the key indicator to the success of wrestling companies on TV. That hasn't gone away. Personally, I don't care, although is interesting to wonder whether there is a tipping point. Ratings always matter in TV. Even in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted December 13, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 hours ago, tiger_rick said: That argument doesn't stand up when you're comparing it to a year ago. There hasn't been a revolution in 2018. The "obsession" comes from the fact the two biggest names in the history of pro-wrestling on TV decided they are the key indicator to the success of wrestling companies on TV. That hasn't gone away. Personally, I don't care, although is interesting to wonder whether there is a tipping point. Ratings always matter in TV. Even in 2018. That was 18 years ago and the main reason people obsessed about it then is because Bischoff etc told us how important it was. And of course it was important and of course it still matters, much like it matters with virtually anything on TV, but you don't really get this obsession with ratings in other forms of TV. I remember you used to have a bit of ratings rivalry between Corrie & Eastenders, but like Raw & Nitro, that was a flat out battle to determine which show was most popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted December 13, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, PunkStep said: That was 18 years ago and the main reason people obsessed about it then is because Bischoff etc told us how important it was. And of course it was important and of course it still matters, much like it matters with virtually anything on TV, but you don't really get this obsession with ratings in other forms of TV. I remember you used to have a bit of ratings rivalry between Corrie & Eastenders, but like Raw & Nitro, that was a flat out battle to determine which show was most popular. It's because the size of the audience is the only competition WWE has these days. WWE vs. Neilsen is the only battle. You're right though, it's clearly old news. Otherwise we might have Seth Rollins starting Raw this week talking about them 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, PunkStep said: you don't really get this obsession with ratings in other forms of TV. Sure you do, X Factor and Strictly instantly spring to mind. Although, much like WWE, They have other revenue streams that are important, such as phone votes and live shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted December 13, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 13, 2018 47 minutes ago, tiger_rick said: You're right though, it's clearly old news. Otherwise we might have Seth Rollins starting Raw this week talking about them 😉 Well, I'm not sure "if WWE are talking about it, it's relevant" is the best measure for anything, really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted December 13, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, BomberPat said: Well, I'm not sure "if WWE are talking about it, it's relevant" is the best measure for anything, really... Touche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dart Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just been announced that Vince will be appearing on Raw this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Dart said: Just been announced that Vince will be appearing on Raw this week. When the ratings are down bring back Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Not really sure what he can really do. There's nothing that even vaguely inspires me to watch Raw anymore, nor WWE at all really. Might catch the odd YouTube video but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaaaaad! Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 He’s there to “shake things up”. Redraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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