Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted May 16, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 Forgetting kayfabe and booking and the standing of talent - just based on how big / small the wrestlers were at the time and judging the result on its own merits. Â So I'm ploughing through the early seasons of Raw and just watched the match between The Kid and Razor Ramon. You know the one. Â I remember when I saw it the first time round and it was a MASSIVE shock. It was a case of genuinely not believing what happened - a jobber not only winning, but beating Razor Ramon, who was only a few months off a WWF title match at the Royal Rumble. Â But it's brilliantly done. You get absolutely no hint at all what is going to happen - Vince and Macho Man are taking the piss out of Kid's name and then all of a sudden WALLOP. And they sell it brilliantly as well, all three of the commentators. What an absolutely brilliant bit of wrestling it is on every level. Â Can you think of a bigger upset, though, on its own merits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum1993 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Rey Mysterio winning the 2006 Royal Rumble for me. Beating 29 guys pretty much all of which were bigger than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Fox Piss Posted May 16, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 Not the biggest but just one that sticks out in my mind is Owen beating Bret at WrestleMania X. I don't think i watched it around the time it happened but even then i was always under the impression Owen was far beneath Bret so it did stop me in my tracks when i caught the match. Â Great story line throughout actually. Â A even lesser one but Earthquake (who was leaving the WWF) beating new superstar Adam Bomb on the same show in less than a minute i think. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Arch Stanton Posted May 16, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 I loved the 'Milan Miracle'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted May 16, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 Bret and Owen is a good shout. I remember swearing blind I was being bullshitted by my brothers mate when he told me. Babyfaces never got beat clean. Not only was Bret beat clean, but Owen outsmarted him. A double shock there. Definite winner is the 123 Kid, though. It not only shocked us all, but it made a career. He wasn't just a jobber, he was tiny. Two things he over came. Â Another one was when Barry Horowitz beat Skip. It was just strange. There's big PPV matches where the details are fuzzy in my brain, but I'll never forget Sunday morning in the summer of 95 watching Superstars and Horowitz rolling up Skip. Â Its very rare any result shocks you know. Everyone beats everyone. Wins mean less than they did back then. Â EDIT: Actually thats unfair. Maybe its because I knew less then than I do now. Shame we have to grow up isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted May 16, 2013 Author Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 Bret v Owen is a great one. I think we all presumed Bret would win to warm him up for Yokozuna, and they pulled that rug from under us. Great stuff. Â Santino is a good one as well. On slightly similar lines, you could perhaps say Carlito's debut win against Cena, but he wasn't plucked out of the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Arch Stanton Posted May 16, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 I'm bending the rules of the thread here, but I think it's worth a mention. Â Super segment, red hot crowd, monster pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 123 Kid probably takes this but, for me, Flair winning the Rumble was a shock at the time. This old looking guy was in from the start and won the whole fuckin' thing! For many, his NWA history was unknown too (or didn't mean shit). He had this belt and a big mouth, came into WWF and took the title four months later. Beating 29 others, including many established guys. Â But 123-Kid, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane O' Mac Version 2 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Zach Gowen vs Matt Hardy deserves a mention here. You know what they say about a one legged man in an asskicking contest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 16, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 Lawler was on great form on commentary for Bret vs Owen as well. Cheering Owen's dirty tactics and poking fun at Stu and Helen. I thought his line when Owen won was brilliant as well, when Vince said Owen had stepped out of Bret's shadow and the King went - "he didn't step out of the shadow, he jumped out" - really made it seem like Owen had arrived as a big time player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Thunderplex Posted May 16, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 Not a match, but when Heenan appeared at the end of superstars with the NWA belt and did the promo to introduce Ric Flair, I went apeshit. It was when we relied on the Apter mags for news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted May 16, 2013 Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 Not the biggest but just one that sticks out in my mind is Owen beating Bret at WrestleMania X. I don't think i watched it around the time it happened but even then i was always under the impression Owen was far beneath Bret so it did stop me in my tracks when i caught the match. Â Yeah. Completely. I had liked Owen but never viewed him as anything other than a spirited loser, and his heel turn made him look a bitter loser. I expected a Sharpshooter inside ten minutes to put him away. Â A even lesser one but Earthquake (who was leaving the WWF) beating new superstar Adam Bomb on the same show in less than a minute i think. Weird. Â He wasn't leaving, they were getting Earthquake ready for a run with Yoko. Bomb was put in to do the job for him that Borga would have done, had he recovered from his ankle injury in time. He hadn't exactly been setting the world on fire beating job boys and fuck all else, other than his own encounter with the Sharpshooter on Superstars a few weeks before Mania - inside five minutes. In "wrestling is real" logic, Bomb hadn't had many tests against decent people. Maybe he could have been expected to give 'Quake a decent fight, but when you're that size and Bret Hart beats you in 5 minutes and you get pinned by Marty Jannetty (at Survivors) how tough can you really be? Â Another one was when Barry Horowitz beat Skip. Â Yeah, I came in here to mention that one. It probably shocked me as much as the Kid. The Kid had only had 2 televised matches before his big upset, whereas Barry Horowitz had been losing matches in the WWF for, it felt like, my entire life. He was a born loser. It was so bad that you had the Quebecers taking the piss in WWF Magazine about losing the tag belts to the Headshrinkers because they had promised Barry and Reno Riggins a title shot. I know Barry was (like the Brawler) ever so slightly better than your average no-name, but the idea of him winning a match was preposterous. I'd seen him lose to a Sparky Plugg dropkick for fuck's sake. I thought they had plans for the Body Donnas, but losing to Horowitz made Skip look a loser. Then losing that ten minute stip match made him look a stupid loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted May 16, 2013 Author Paid Members Share Posted May 16, 2013 Lawler was on great form on commentary for Bret vs Owen as well. Cheering Owen's dirty tactics and poking fun at Stu and Helen. I thought his line when Owen won was brilliant as well, when Vince said Owen had stepped out of Bret's shadow and the King went - "he didn't step out of the shadow, he jumped out" - really made it seem like Owen had arrived as a big time player. Â I don't think I could ever tire of Lawler making fun of Bret's parents. He was brilliant on commentary for stuff like putting people over at the time, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane O' Mac Version 2 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Reading these examples makes me feel crazy young I was 3 when Razor/Kid happened and 5 when Horowitz/Skip happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznor Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I don't think I could ever tire of Lawler making fun of Bret's parents. Just reminded me of that Bret/Bam Bam match on the balcony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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