Keith Houchen 18,413 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 How so? They are the same colour as us now. In the 80's, John Junor wrote a piece about "If only the Irish were green, then we'd know". That's along the lines of why Racism can be clouded now. As Butch said,when they say immigrants, they mean Muslims. Before, they meant darkies. Link to post Share on other sites
thicko 34 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Who are 'they'? Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Houchen 18,413 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Hope Not Hate. Link to post Share on other sites
thicko 34 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 I'm really not any good at this, am I! Link to post Share on other sites
King Pitcos 2,961 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 They are the same colour as us now. In the 80's, John Junor wrote a piece about "If only the Irish were green, then we'd know". That's along the lines of why Racism can be clouded now. As Butch said,when they say immigrants, they mean Muslims. Before, they meant darkies. I didn't mean in relation to clouding of racism. I was asking what makes xenophobia -- in terms of national slurs rather than fear of foreigners, and in cases where race is irrelevant -- more acceptable than racism. Why is saying, for example, "Irish/Americans/Polaks shouldn't be allowed in here" any better than "blacks/Asians/yellows shouldn't be allowed in here"? Or to use more real-world examples, what makes "yanks are fat loud thick cunts" more acceptable than "pakis stink of curry"? A lot of people who'd condemn the latter would parrot a version of the former without thinking twice. Pigmentation or flag, it's all prejudice against circumstances of birth. Link to post Share on other sites
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Paid Members Carbomb 5,885 Posted March 16, 2013 Paid Members Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) I’ve just head a song on the radio that had the lyric “with a grip just like a Scotsman on a five pound note”. I don’t even recognise that particular stereotype. What, that Scots are stingy? It's a pretty old and infamous stereotype. Dickens' Ebenezer Scrooge is the most famous representation of it. From my own experiences, I've never found it to be particularly true. Edited March 16, 2013 by Carbomb Link to post Share on other sites
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Philo_Vance 45 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Or the crash between two taxis in Glasgow. 43 injured. Or the two scottish geezers fighting over a penny and ending up with a length of copper wire each. Link to post Share on other sites
andrew "the ref" coyne 137 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Australians taking the piss out of you for being English isn't racism. What makes you think those individuals were white? Trust me... I've had non-whites / kiwis / people of aboriginal descent call me a pommie bastard in the last year and a half. Link to post Share on other sites
Richie Freebird 40 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I've had non-whites / kiwis / people of aboriginal descent call me a pommie bastard in the last year and a half. Is it in a particularly vicious or intentionally insulting and derogatory manner, when they are spouting shit like this? There used to be an Australian guy in the shipyard round here; a real fun loving guy affectionately known as Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Justice 860 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Richard Dreyfuss called me a limey bastard once. Link to post Share on other sites
mikey 27 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 To pick at the definition of racism, there needs to be a word which describes prejudice or discrimination against somebody of a different nationality based on the belief that each nationality possesses certain characteristics specific to them. Nationalism isn't it. Nationalism is being prideful of the country you belong to. Xenophobia is a dislike or fear of people from other countries or of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange The lexicon is lacking. Xenophobia is a phobia, it's an irrational fear. Racism isn't a phobia. That's my point. Link to post Share on other sites
King Pitcos 2,961 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 You should write in to get homophobia renamed. Link to post Share on other sites
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