The three handled moss covered family credenza

[JNLister]

Yeah, though I've heard it pronounced that way outside of him. I guess that's the amateur wrestling pronunciation.

 

That's right: it's from Greco Roman wrestling where the suplex is a big thing. The word is thought to come from the French word souplesse, meaning flexible/flexibity. (Greco-Roman wrestling actually comes from France and is a relatively modern creation.)

 

The counter to the bad Doring sex names was the variations Sandman had on traditional moves such as the White Russian Legsweep and the Heinekenrana.

[Carbomb]

Was the suplex originally pronounced 'su-play'? I'm sure I've heard it pronounced as such.

That would be Gordon Solie that used to pronounce it like that, wasn't it?

 

Yup, that's where I first heard it. Think I was watching Piper vs. Valentine, Dog Collar match.

 

Loved Moonlight Drive too, would have hated it if it was 'Driver' though. Was always gutted he dropped that move as a baby and never understood why.

 

I actually liked the move as well. Never liked Starship Pain as a finish - just didn't look like it hurt at all.

 

On the shit names front - can't stand Zigglers being called 'The Zig-Zag'. That's such a lazy effort and i'm stunned it's ever stuck.

 

True, but at least it wasn't called the "Zig-a-Zig-Ahhh". To be honest, given that he didn't have much of a character when he debuted as Ziggler, I don't think there would've been many names he could have used. Would've laughed if he'd called it the "Dolph Hitler", though.

 

'White Noise' is fucking crap too, don't know why they changed that from 'Celtic Cross'.

 

Wasn't it only called the "Celtic Cross" when Finlay used it? I know Sheamus' version of the Razor's Edge was called the "High Cross" or something.

 

Was often a bit gutted when some guys had well established moves/finishers that didn't have a fancy name. Like Cactus Jacks Double Arm DDT or British Bulldogs Running Powerslam for example.

 

I didn't mind that so much, as there were quite a lot like that - Hulk Hogan's leg drop, Macho Man's elbow, Roddy Piper's and Brutus Beefcake's sleeper hold, Warlord's and Billy-Jack Haynes' full nelson, Paul Orndorff's and Jerry Lawler's piledriver, Sid's powerbomb, etc.

 

 

 

One promotion that's great for finisher names is DragonGate - Magnum TOKYO's gimmick was originally that of a porn star, so his finisher was the "Viagra Driver". Dragon Kid's flying cross-submission finish was called the "Christ", and so Darkness Dragon/K-ness came up with a submission counter to it called the "Judas". Doi Naruki's infamous sliding kick finisher, when translated, is the "You-Stupid-Bastard Sliding Kick".

 

Also, TAKA Michinoku, in his feud with old pal Dick Togo, did an angle where he came up with a submission specifically designed to deal with Togo, which he named the "Dick Killer".

[Arch Stanton]

One promotion that's great for finisher names is DragonGate - Magnum TOKYO's gimmick was originally that of a porn star, so his finisher was the "Viagra Driver".

That's shit if it's his finisher. Surely you're just getting straight up from that?

[Up Chuck]

I always thought RKO was a great name, because not only is it Randy's initials, it's a play on TKO, like 'Randy Knock Out'. That, plus the fact that it's short and catchy and fans can easily chant for it.

 

I always thought "Randy Knock Out" sounded like something Keith Chegwin would present in the graveyard slot on Channel 5.

 

 

I remember UK indy wrestler Raj Ghosh had the pun-errificly named 'Ghosh Buster'.

 

As with the aforementioned James Tighe's moves (including the Tighe Fighter - I've forgotten what that one even was), someone at FWA really had a thing about giving people's finishers pun names. I'm sure there were other awful ones that I've intentionally forgotten.

[C-Rock]

I haven't read through the whole of this so I don't know if its already been answered but I believe the Fisherman Suplex got its name from the fact you hook your opponents leg ie a fisherman a hook on the end of a rod.

[diamond_dust]

As with the aforementioned James Tighe's moves (including the Tighe Fighter - I've forgotten what that one even was), someone at FWA really had a thing about giving people's finishers pun names. I'm sure there were other awful ones that I've intentionally forgotten.

 

Like Scott Parker's originally named Golden Shower that had to be changed before they let him on TV?

[Carbomb]

One promotion that's great for finisher names is DragonGate - Magnum TOKYO's gimmick was originally that of a porn star, so his finisher was the "Viagra Driver".

That's shit if it's his finisher. Surely you're just getting straight up from that?

 

It was a pumphandle piledriver.

 

I'd say taking any kind of piledriver in the ring must destroy you.

 

As with the aforementioned James Tighe's moves (including the Tighe Fighter - I've forgotten what that one even was), someone at FWA really had a thing about giving people's finishers pun names. I'm sure there were other awful ones that I've intentionally forgotten.

 

His main finisher was a variation of the Ki Krusher, called the "Tighe-tanic".

 

He came up with "Revolving Tighe Rack" himself, though - asked me to mention it to Andy Coyne/Nick London so that he'd call it in commentary.

 

Like Scott Parker's originally named Golden Shower that had to be changed before they let him on TV?

 

That is fucking awesome. A shame I only got into FWA just after Parker retired.

[AfRo]

Seeing as the full nelson hasn't been answered yet, I just wanna add that it probably never will be. It's a common move in amateur/olympic wrestling, or at least it used to be, and has apparently been used for at least 200 years, if not longer. So I doubt we'll ever find out the true source.

 

I'm pretty sure the half nelson was then invented by some indy wrestler thinking, I'm so good, I only need half a nelson.

[diamond_dust]

Like Scott Parker's originally named Golden Shower that had to be changed before they let him on TV?

 

That is fucking awesome. A shame I only got into FWA just after Parker retired.

 

The less said about you thinking Scott Parker delivering Golden Showers to other men is awesome the better.

[Carbomb]

Like Scott Parker's originally named Golden Shower that had to be changed before they let him on TV?

 

That is fucking awesome. A shame I only got into FWA just after Parker retired.

 

The less said about you thinking Scott Parker delivering Golden Showers to other men is awesome the better.

 

Hey, you stick to your hobbies and I'll stick to mine.

[andrew "the ref" coyne]

He came up with "Revolving Tighe Rack" himself, though - asked me to mention it to Andy Coyne/Nick London so that he'd call it in commentary.

 

And I remember rolling my eyes and refusing to say it. Though I think other commenters were happy to. It was just too pun tastic for me.

 

But yes, FWA did have a tendency for pun name for finishers. My favourite was cultist Paul travel's 'sacrificial-shlamb.' Awesome.

[PowerButchi]

Wolf Hawkfield in AJPW (later known as "Jungle" Jim Steele).

 

no. He was known as Jim Steele for several years first.

[Duke]

One promotion that's great for finisher names is DragonGate - Magnum TOKYO's gimmick was originally that of a porn star, so his finisher was the "Viagra Driver".

That's shit if it's his finisher. Surely you're just getting straight up from that?

 

It was a pumphandle piledriver.

 

I'd say taking any kind of piledriver in the ring must destroy you.

 

Oh carbomb.... Viagra driver. Read it again lad.

[Carbomb]

Wolf Hawkfield in AJPW (later known as "Jungle" Jim Steele).

 

no. He was known as Jim Steele for several years first.

 

Ah, I didn't know this. I did see the name "Jungle" Jim Steele in NJPW a few years after his run as Wolf, so I just assumed. Thanks for the correction.

 

One promotion that's great for finisher names is DragonGate - Magnum TOKYO's gimmick was originally that of a porn star, so his finisher was the "Viagra Driver".

That's shit if it's his finisher. Surely you're just getting straight up from that?

 

It was a pumphandle piledriver.

 

I'd say taking any kind of piledriver in the ring must destroy you.

 

Oh carbomb.... Viagra driver. Read it again lad.

 

I did get it - "getting straight up". I just wanted to make a joke about a piledriver in the ring.

[Merzbow]

Wolf Hawkfield was a gimmick based on the Virtua Fighter character of the same name, the same character was in the Sega Saturns AJPW game.