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Always had a soft spot for Vlad, id love to see him pull it off against Bader, cant see it but it would be awesome.

 

Yeah I'll be rooting for Vladdy as well. Always liked him and to be honest I've just never really warmed to Bader. I picked Bader by decision in that one I think. Could see a TKO though. Both have heavy hands. I'd love to see Vlad clip him early like Tito did.

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Big expectations for Cerrone/Pettis. Out of the fights I've watched of Donald Cerrone, I've never seen a crap one.

 

Think Bader/Vladdy ends with someone getting put to sleep. If that doesn't happen, it goes to a decision. This is Bader's first fight since he got KO'd by Machida right?

 

Wonder how Guida will look with his first fight as a Featherweight, let's hope it's a not a repeat of his last fight. Bloody hell.

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I think Pettis, Rampage and Dodson will win their respective fights. Rampage is more in hope as I'd love to see him go out with a bang. Main thing is the fights are competiveness, last fights on a FOX show looked good on paper, but unfortunately ended up too one sided.

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Yeah that's what I love about this card. I can't imagine anything other than the top 3 fights being really competitive. Rampage vs Glover and Cerrone vs Pettis especially have that feeling that anything can happen.

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I can't imagine anything other than the top 3 fights being really competitive.

 

OK, 2 out of 3 ain't bad going.

 

Johnson vs Dodson

I really enjoyed this. I should have stuck with my original pick of Mouse on points. Something in the back of my mind was telling me "Dodson 2nd round KO". It very nearly happened as well. But I'm glad to be wrong in this case, Mouse looked really good aside from the second round. He fought a risky fight and at times early on I thought he was over aggressive, but I guess putting the pressure on like he did paid off down the stretch because he was clearly the fresher fighter by the later rounds.

 

Dodson was still dangerous but Mouse really took over late in the fight. Loved it when he went all Pride Wandy with the Thai clinch at the end. As a massive Wand and Shogun fan, I get a warm fuzzy feeling whenever I see the old Thai clinch. It's become an underused weapon in recent years with the exception of certain guys like Ben Saunders. Nice to see Mouse adopt it.

 

Can't stand Dodson but credit where it's due, he's a tough little shit. Great fight.

 

Glover vs Rampage

Glover fought a very smart fight. He did enough grappling to keep Rampage guessing, hurt him on the feet, his defence wasn't great but it was better than it has been in the past, his punches weren't quite as wild as usual. Very impressive performance. And I say that because despite Rampage not being what he once was, he was clearly well up for this fight. And Glover still won, in my opinion, every round.

 

I'm still not ready to declare him the Jon Jones slayer like a lot of fans seem to be but he's a proven contender now. This was far and away the biggest win of his career.

 

Rampage had his moments. He tired late but it was a pretty high pace fight and he has been out for almost a year to be fair. He still gave Glover a tough fight. Didn't do enough to win the rounds but he made Glover work for them. Landed some hard shots, recovered from some hard shots and hung in there, was able to get back up from the bottom almost every time he was taken down, defended the submissions well.

 

It was a good farewell fight, the result didn't go his way but it was the best fight he's had in a long time and he didn't get destroyed like a lot of people thought he would going in.

 

Rogan Bias was in effect again though. I know Glover was winning and Rampage is leaving so it's kind of to be expected but fuck me. There were a few points when they were both landing hard shots and Rogan would only call Glover's punches. Plus all the "Glover is one of the best light heavyweights on the planet", before the fight even happened. You can't call someone one of the best if they've yet to even face a top level 205er. He has now but Jesus Christ, at least wait until he proves it.

 

Nice to see Rampage and Glover shake hands after the fight. Who does Glover fight now though? I'd imagine the winner of Hendo vs Machida might be ahead of him in the title race, especially if one of them finishes impressively in a few weeks. Who next for Glover? Shogun maybe, but he's coming off a loss. Winner of Rashad vs Nog? Bader?

 

Pettis vs Cerrone

Well fucking hell. This was meant to be a FOTY candidate., no-one told Anthony Pettis. There is a thing called ring rust, again, no-one told Anthony Pettis.

 

What a statement he made with this...

 

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"The liver shot"

 

2:35 of round 1. That's Donald Cerrone for fucks sake.

 

I picked him to win from the time the fight was made but I don't think anyone expected him to just breeze through him that easily. I expected a really competitive fight with Pettis winning on better technique and defence. Didn't expect him to just come in and crush him in a couple of minutes. Diaz battered Cerrone for 15 minutes and couldn't stop him. Pettis came off like a total star tonight. The fight and the post fight interview he just came off as a proper big player.

 

He absolutely 100% deserves a crack at the title based off this. Problem is Melendez is getting it first so what happens now? Does he risk taking another fight or wait? I usually say a fighter should stay active but I think he should wait in this case. Bendo vs Melendez is happening in April, providing the winner isn't too banged up we could have the winner vs Pettis in the Summer which isn't too long for Pettis to wait.

 

I'm rooting for Pettis to go all the way now. I've been a fan since the WEC days, I always liked Cerrone as well and I like his attitude but I said a while back I like Pettis' fighting style a bit more. He's just so creative and unpredictable, it's great to watch. There's no-one else with quite that style in MMA. Dare I say it, it was quite Anderson Silva-like.

 

Couldn't find a gif but we got a fucking cartwheel kick and a Showtime knee as well. Quality.

 

Feel bad for Cerrone. It's the worst way to lose, he never even really got a look in. He'll be back but with all the shit he talked in the build up - saying Pettis was scared of him, all flash etc - it must be all the more embarrassing to go down like that.

 

Oh Jamie Varner's thoughts on Cerrone;

 

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What a p@$$y are u kidding me

 

Dick.

 

Lamas vs Koch

What a performance from Ricardo Lamas. That's two fights in a row now he was the underdog and has pulled off impressive wins. First Hioki and now this really pushed him into the title mix. He beat the orange off Erik 'The Kock' Koch. Absolutely wrecked him with them elbows.

 

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Brutal.

 

Prelims were good as well.

 

Grant vs Wiman

Again, what a performance. TJ Grant has found his weightclass. He was an underrated fighter at 170 but at 155 he looks like a killer. Matt Wiman is known for his toughness and Grant clobbered him. 4-0 at lightweight, he's really climbing now. He was a dark horse of the 155 class coming in but not anymore. The Dunham fight got some people talking but this was his proper coming out party.

 

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Rogan was spot on with the "stone cold killer" line. I really want to see TJ Grant vs Jim Miller next. Grant deserves the step up.

 

Guida vs Hioki

Hioki looked good I thought. I had him winning actually, taking the first 2 rounds. But it was close, what can you do? Hioki's striking looked improved, his grappling was obviously excellent. I just didn't think Clay did enough on top in the first 2 rounds. The big slam was great though, fitting in Matt Hughes' backyard as well.

 

It wasn't a great fight but I still kind of liked it. Good technical chess match with the wrestling vs BJJ.

 

Aside from that, Bader submitting Vladdy in less than a minute surprised me. He's never really shown much in the way of submissions before. Gutted for Vlad.

 

Krauss looked good, Jordan's comeback on Russow was fun and I really liked the Mitchell vs Thoresen fight.

 

Good show. A few guys really stepped up their game tonight. Pettis, Grant and Lamas especially. Their stock rased big time tonight.

 

EDIT - Watching the presser, TJ Grant just called for the Miller fight I suggested. Fucking yes. Get it made Joe Silva.

 

EDIT 2 - Showtime knee;

 

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Good show overall, I think Dodson definitely made a few more fans tonight - his style is brilliant for the Flyweights.

 

 

Rampage has came out saying he doesn't think he wants to go against the top level fighters anymore and that he wants to be a 'Gary Goodridge type fighter'. Thats worrying.

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Yeah very worrying when you hear of the problems Goodridge is having these days.

 

I understand why he's down but he didn't embarrass himself last night, and if Glover is as good as everyone thinks then Rampage didn't do too bad. If he keeps fighting in MMA then I don't see him having much trouble with the non-Zuffa 205ers out there. King Mo excepted, he'd be the only really hard fight at 205 out there I reckon.

 

Part of me still thinks he'll end up back in the UFC though, kind of like Tito a few years ago when he left and ended up coming back a year later.

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I really enjoyed this show, all but one fight delivered (which I'll get to later), and it was free, which always gains extra goodwill. The main card especially shone, with two brutal stoppages and two fights going the distance that maybe weren't "wars" per se, but still very entertaining for the most part.

 

Dodson was still dangerous but Mouse really took over late in the fight. Loved it when he went all Pride Wandy with the Thai clinch at the end. As a massive Wand and Shogun fan, I get a warm fuzzy feeling whenever I see the old Thai clinch. It's become an underused weapon in recent years with the exception of certain guys like Ben Saunders. Nice to see Mouse adopt it.

 

I thought when watching that, "Anderson Silva would be proud". Chael had the same angle on it, referencing the Rich Franklin fight on the post-fight show.

 

Tell you what, Mouse made me a fan tonight, both guys fought their asses off. Prior to tonight, I was somewhat anti-Mouse, seeing him as a fighter whose goal was to get the decision. It might make seem like a "Just Bleed" guy, but I think in combat sports, the goal should always to be to finish your opponent and leave no question about who the better fighter is. I thought before the show that a Mouse decision would mean the bout would be a pedestrian exhibition of footwork, light jabs and a few takedowns. But, wow, what a pleasant surprise. Dodson came in with his killer instincts, and the champ responded beautifully with the Muay Thai clinch. He might not have power, but I think that new weapon could lead to some finishes for him at flyweight. Dodson showed great toughness and had a fair amount of success himself in the first 3 rounds.

 

I will say, the judging and refereeing made the decision a long way from what it should have been. I agree with the victor, but thought there was a case for a split decision. Dodson bouncing Mouse around the cage should have got him at least 2 of the first 3 rounds, it was the championship rounds where the tide swung.

 

Also, it seems like referees are tentative to deduct points for fouls in recent times. Pokes, low blows and knees to a downed opponent happen quite frequently, yet the last time I remember points getting deducted was Alex Caceres getting deducted 2 points for a low blow well over a year ago. The rules are there for a reason, and the constant attitude of "well, it was an accident" means that fighters can lose respect for the rules and try and take advantage of that culture (Josh Koscheck, looking at you). With Johnson vs. Dodson, two fouls by the champion, the low blow I can live with a caution, but the downed knee definitely deserved a point deduction, it was clear as day. The intent isn't what's important, it's the action and the consequences of that action on the receiving fighter's end.

 

Rampage had his moments. He tired late but it was a pretty high pace fight and he has been out for almost a year to be fair. He still gave Glover a tough fight. Didn't do enough to win the rounds but he made Glover work for them. Landed some hard shots, recovered from some hard shots and hung in there, was able to get back up from the bottom almost every time he was taken down, defended the submissions well.

 

It was a good farewell fight, the result didn't go his way but it was the best fight he's had in a long time and he didn't get destroyed like a lot of people thought he would going in.

 

I was highly impressed with Rampage for the things you mentioned, kind of ironic that he does this in his farewell. Yeah, Glover got a clear victory, but it was nowhere near the one sided beatdown his first two fights were. Goes to show that Rampage isn't really past it, it's just a motivation thing, which is frustrating as I liked Rampage back when he was motivated and not whining so much. Dana said at the beginning of the post fight presser that Rampage walked out screaming, "You're gonna miss me!" -I can't tell if Dana's joking, it sounds ridiculous but then again so has most of the stuff Rampage has said over the last several months. About the fight, Rampage even showed willingness to mix it up at times, using leg kicks, body kicks and even a takedown attempt at one stage. I think if Rampage had held off the takedowns the result of the fight could possibly be in question, the striking battle was much closer than the commentary made it sound.

 

Rogan Bias was in effect again though. I know Glover was winning and Rampage is leaving so it's kind of to be expected but fuck me. There were a few points when they were both landing hard shots and Rogan would only call Glover's punches. Plus all the "Glover is one of the best light heavyweights on the planet", before the fight even happened. You can't call someone one of the best if they've yet to even face a top level 205er. He has now but Jesus Christ, at least wait until he proves it.

 

Plus Glover is Liddell's guy, and Dana loves him some Chuck. Rogan knows this.

 

Who does Glover fight now though? I'd imagine the winner of Hendo vs Machida might be ahead of him in the title race, especially if one of them finishes impressively in a few weeks. Who next for Glover? Shogun maybe, but he's coming off a loss. Winner of Rashad vs Nog? Bader?

 

I really want them to hold off on fast tracking him to a title shot, he's had 1 fight against a top 10 LHW- maybe top 15, crazy to think this means Rampage is on a 3 fight losing streak. I think Shogun and Bader are a notch below Rampage right now, Shogun needs a win and Bader needs a top 10 win. I'd like Glover vs. Rashad next, then Glover should welcome Cormier to 205, with the Hendo/Machida winner being the next challenger to the title after Sonnen.

 

Pettis was damned impressive, Dana said he's next in line for a title shot, Pettis said he'd wait for it this time, which I think is the smart choice. There's no fights/fighters scheduled that could match the quality of that win. Plus he had zero ring rust after a 11 month layoff, which is just incredible against a fighter as skilled and active as Cerrone is.

 

Rogan was spot on with the "stone cold killer" line. I really want to see TJ Grant vs Jim Miller next. Grant deserves the step up.

 

Funny you say that, when I saw Grant backstage with the hat on, I actually thought it was Jim Miller. :laugh: I love that fight as well.

 

Watching the presser, TJ Grant just called for the Miller fight I suggested. Fucking yes. Get it made Joe Silva.

 

Excellent. I get the feeling Dana and Joe love it when fighters call each other out publicly, makes their job a bit easier.

 

 

Hioki looked good I thought. I had him winning actually, taking the first 2 rounds. But it was close, what can you do? Hioki's striking looked improved, his grappling was obviously excellent. I just didn't think Clay did enough on top in the first 2 rounds. The big slam was great though, fitting in Matt Hughes' backyard as well.

 

The judge that said 30-27 Guida should be shot.

 

Things Guida did in the fight: The slam, having top position. That's literally about it. I'd like to see the Compustrike numbers to see if Guida even landed a single shot in the first round.

 

Things Hioki did: Constant effective striking, constant attacking with submissions, preventing Guida from advancing position.

 

I liked what Hioki did, hated Guida's performance. Debut at 145, coming off the horrible Maynard fight, he needed a big performance. I can't see Guida getting many opportunities to become a contender from that shit.

 

Aside from that, Bader submitting Vladdy in less than a minute surprised me. He's never really shown much in the way of submissions before. Gutted for Vlad.

 

Like a reverse arm triangle, was great stuff, well deserved SOTN. Smart of Bader to unleash a new technique here, I think most expected him to win, likely by KO/TKO, but it was a good idea to show that he's adding things to his arsenal, making him more dangerous.

 

Krauss looked good, Jordan's comeback on Russow was fun and I really liked the Mitchell vs Thoresen fight.

Same here, the striking that occurred was much better than you would expect from two submission specialists, and they had some nifty ground exchanges later on. Did you have your Facebook stream cut off before the fight finished? UFC had a lot of technical issues today, that's really the only thing I can criticise about the show beyond it having Guida's stupid fucking face on it.

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Dana said at the beginning of the post fight presser that Rampage walked out screaming, "You're gonna miss me!" -I can't tell if Dana's joking, it sounds ridiculous but then again so has most of the stuff Rampage has said over the last several months.

 

I think Dana said that Rampage said "missing you already" or something. I think it was friendly and good natured enough though because Dana then went on to praise Rampage's performance. Saying that most guys, after being hurt by Glover, wouldn't have got out of the first round. Something like that.

 

I really want them to hold off on fast tracking him to a title shot, he's had 1 fight against a top 10 LHW- maybe top 15, crazy to think this means Rampage is on a 3 fight losing streak. I think Shogun and Bader are a notch below Rampage right now, Shogun needs a win and Bader needs a top 10 win. I'd like Glover vs. Rashad next, then Glover should welcome Cormier to 205, with the Hendo/Machida winner being the next challenger to the title after Sonnen.

 

See, I was forgetting Cormier as well. Glover will probably need another win maybe even two before a title shot. If he'd finished Rampage he might be fast tracked but I think there's a few ahead of him.

 

Hendo/Machida winner - yeah these 2 were in the Dana bad books after the whole UFC 151 mess. But still, before that Dana was ready to give Machida a title shot after the Bader KO and Hendo was actually scheduled to fight Jones for the title originally so you'd have to think the winner of this fight is in line ahead of Glover. Especially if one finishes the other.

 

Gustafsson - he was promised a shot with the win over Shogun. If he beats Mousasi then he'd surely be next in line.

 

Cormier - I personally think Glover should be ahead of Cormier at 205 because, well, Cormier hasn't even fought at the weight yet. But it's all about timing and Dana seems keen on Cormier as a challenger for Jones. If Cormier bashes Mir up in style then I can see him walking straight into the title shot as his 205 debut.

 

Glover vs the Rashad/Little Nog winner seems like a good bet actually.

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I love me some Anthony Pettis, he's probably up there with Anderson and Jose Aldo in terms of unpredictability inside the cage and makes him a joy to watch when he's in that form. Never really liked Cowboy so happy to see him dispatched with ease.

 

It's been sad watching Rampage the last few years. Like nearly everybody else who was on top the last decade (Fedor, Nogueira, Shogun, Wanderlei, Chuck etc) age and wear and tear have caught up with him badly and it's sad to watch. You can blame his lack of motivation for the last few years but he was gassed halfway through the first round last night and was basically a tough punch bag. Now there is only Dan Henderson left successfully carrying the flag for my beloved PRIDE. :(

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Dana said at the beginning of the post fight presser that Rampage walked out screaming, "You're gonna miss me!" -I can't tell if Dana's joking, it sounds ridiculous but then again so has most of the stuff Rampage has said over the last several months.

 

I think Dana said that Rampage said "missing you already" or something. I think it was friendly and good natured enough though because Dana then went on to praise Rampage's performance. Saying that most guys, after being hurt by Glover, wouldn't have got out of the first round. Something like that.

 

Nah, the "missing you already" was Dana's response to that. You're right that it was good natured and I don't think there's any major ill will there from Dana. Despite Rampage's issues with the UFC, he's been a big draw for them and they did definitely look out for him on many occasions. It's probably just a thing where they're both glad their obligations are fulfilled, and Dana's probably glad that Rampage had it in him to give a great performance as a featured fight on FOX.

 

Hendo/Machida winner - yeah these 2 were in the Dana bad books after the whole UFC 151 mess. But still, before that Dana was ready to give Machida a title shot after the Bader KO and Hendo was actually scheduled to fight Jones for the title originally so you'd have to think the winner of this fight is in line ahead of Glover. Especially if one finishes the other.

 

Cormier - I personally think Glover should be ahead of Cormier at 205 because, well, Cormier hasn't even fought at the weight yet. But it's all about timing and Dana seems keen on Cormier as a challenger for Jones. If Cormier bashes Mir up in style then I can see him walking straight into the title shot as his 205 debut.

 

Glover vs the Rashad/Little Nog winner seems like a good bet actually.

Yeah, Dana's came out and said Henderson is ahead of Cormier if he wins against Machida, nothing about Machida getting it though. Good point about Cormier not fighting at 205 yet, but that hasn't stopped Sonnen, if Dana thinks it's a money maker he'd do it. Personally, I think the big wins of Cormier (Bigfoot and Barnett) are bigger than Glover's win over Rampage. It's a moot point at the moment, Cormier might have health issues when trying to cut again.

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Pettis was the star for me.

 

I feel Cerrone is a bit overrated, he gets caught too often if you watch the Guillard and Nate Diaz fight. Still, no one has ever tooled him like that. It was a masterclass that he even had fun during, it was scary good if you consider that Cerrone is considered top 10. The gulf in talent between the two striking wise was very wide.

 

Pettis is want you would want for a potential mega star. He is young, charismatic, good looking and a very exciting fighter. He is very marketable, he has a x-factor that Edgar, Bendo, Mouse, Cruz, Weidman and others don't have. I really hope he beats Bendo if they fight down the line.

 

Glover did what he had to do. You could tell Rampage had tried with his training, his head movement early on was top-notch. I felt Glover was bit more conservative with his striking, which was a good thing as a Rampage counter would have meant lights out. I felt Glover could have gone for more takedowns, in the end he had the better conditioning and got the best of the striking (not by as much as some predicted though).

 

Round 2 was close, I had it even. Glover clearly won 1 and 3. It is hard to determine how good Glover is, but I am not as excited about him now as I was in his first two UFC fights. I think I got a bit OTT with the level he as fighting. For now I say Machida is number 2, behind Jones. Gusty and Glover being 3 and 4. Hendo could upset that though. These are just my rankings on who is the best, not who is line for a title shot.

 

The main as I expected was another sprinter vs marathon type fight, unlike with Bisping vs Belfort though the marathon runner won here. Very good fight, but after Rampage (who is a bigger star than both) and Pettis (who is more exciting and just as big a star as both) I could not get into it as much as should have.

 

Overall a decent enough show

 

Edit: Wand should be matchmaker, Glover vs Rashad/Lil Nog, makes sense.

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