Doctor Whos Next Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 To say he's trying to generate (presumably positive) reviews for the show, I don't think Conrad did himself any favours at the end of last week's show when he went on his mini rant about people moaning about/not voting for Chyna on the poll.  He basically said that you missed on a great opportunity to get all the dirt on HHH and Stephanie.   Sorry, do I want this?  I appreciate that you can't talk about WWE without the someone from the McMahon family being discussed, but jesus, Chyna would be depressing, even more so than the Sunny episode.  Besides, if he wanted to pick his own topics, then he should just drop the poll and choose his own topics, something he's got around by doing the XFL companion piece and offering both of the bonus episodes.  . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SBD Posted February 20, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted February 20, 2017 Can anyone recommend a decent podcast/podcasts that cover the Death Of WCW and ECW Â Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Are you looking for a show specifically on that topic, or just a show with an episode or interview on it? Â I always liked the episode Steve Austin's podcast when he interviewed Paul Heyman in 2014. It's was a two part, the second of which was more focuses on ECW- (skip to 24:50 for the start of the interview) https://youtu.be/UOYEF6px84A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SBD Posted February 20, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted February 20, 2017 Are you looking for a show specifically on that topic, or just a show with an episode or interview on it?  I always liked the episode Steve Austin's podcast when he interviewed Paul Heyman in 2014. It's was a two part, the second of which was more focuses on ECW- (skip to 24:50 for the start of the interview)   Specific to it if they exist   Cheers for that link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted February 20, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted February 20, 2017 The Bruce Pritchard pod has an episode on the last Nitro, which is quite good. Review-a-Wai have done loads of eps reviewing latter day WCW TV and PPVs. Also, if you can stomach it for the next year or so, there is a podcast on the LAW website bi-weekly called Keep it 2000, which is reviewing every Nitro from the year 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted February 20, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted February 20, 2017 For the death of WCW you're probably looking for the Bryan Alvarez audiobook, you can download from Amazon, you probably aren't going to get much more specific than that one for that topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotswizard Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Russo is right in everything that he says as is Disco Inferno. Â Â Â Â Disco says today on Russos's show, today's wrestling fans are seals. They clap everyone. Everything is awesome. Everyone deserves a belt and they are Asexual. Â Â Â That's why they don't want sexy women on the show or any woman showing sexuality. They are Asexual and just want to watch wrestling mathches because sex isn't part of their life. And he is right! Those types of fans ruin the shows. Imbeciles. Some guy like Bray Wyatt who's out there doing his best to act and he's been told to play a bad guy and they stand cheer and clap like performing seals chanting YOU DESERVE IT. And people wonder why no one watches wrestling anymore? Just clowns. Absolute clowns. Asexual clowns lol. Edited February 20, 2017 by scotswizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 [scotswizard garbage] Is this your new gimmick now? Saying wrestling fans don't like women? (At least that's how it comes across). Â For me, I don't mind a women wrestler that's easy on the eyes, but if their entire reason for being employed is because they "look ok" and can't wrestle at all, I'm not really interested. Â I'm a fan of wrestling, so I want to see women wrestle and put on a good match, like some of the blokes do as well. If I wanted to stare at "sexy" women, I'd look at porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotswizard Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I'm just agreeing with the Disco Inferno and VInce Russo. They load the gun, I fire the bullets. Â Â Â Â And they don't like women. Wrestling fans don't cheer good and bad guys. They don't chant this is awesome everytime someone does a fancy move outside. They don't chant you deserve it to every single wrestler from NXT or the indys. Â Â Wrestling fans should have an organic response, raw emotion. Not trained to do certain chants throughout the show. And they are right, many are Asexual. Many of todays wrestling fans will have never had sex or want sex. They are repulsed at the idea of a woman not being covered head to toe in clothing. Repulsed at the idea of two people kissing. It disgusts them. Makes their skin crawl. Can't have that on the show. No no. We must have wall to wall, back to back wrestling matches. Â Â Â Â And people wonder why wrestling drew 10 million on a Monday night and it's now drawing less than 3 million. Oh the women are better wrestlers now!!!!! Really? Why is no one watching it then lol. Especially at night time. Night time is grown up time. Adults time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) I'm just agreeing with the Disco Inferno and VInce Russo. They load the gun, I fire the bullets.  Steady on everyone, we've got a badass morherfucker on the board  And people wonder why wrestling drew 10 million on a Monday night and it's now drawing less than 3 million. Oh the women are better wrestlers now!!!!! Really? Why is no one watching it then lol. Especially at night time. Night time is grown up time. Adults time.* the majority of people who watching have grown out of it. They stopped being spotty virgins, got laid and started living an actual life and starting a family because their not in their teens anymore* TV as a medium has completely changed since then in terms of how its consumed Edited February 20, 2017 by WyattSheepMask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Its a PG show......for Kids.  The women and overall content were like that in the 90's because it was the 90's. Everything was violent/loading with sex/for adults, but its a different time now. The networks involved have a bit of say on what appears on screen, (I believe that was the reason for Daniel Bryan getting released during the nexus stuff for example).  That and ratings have slowly been going down for years, and we've only really had decent women wrestlers on mainstream tv for like 2-3 years tops. So is the decline all about women wearing more clothes? Not at all. Would WWE get more out of portraying women in a positive light to get younger female fans on board, potentially for the entire lives? Yes indeed. And even then, they still have the odd one or two "hot" women on TV, to fill that demographic. It's not like they are all wrestling in Bhurka's is it?  I just have no idea what you're basing this "ALL WRESTLING FANS ARE VIRGINS WHO HATE SEX" stuff, other than personal opinion. I'll be the first to admit, it's a hard sell to a person you want to date, ("I like watching the men in pant do a fight"), but it's like saying Coronation Street viewers are all base jumpers, who only sleep with people in mid-air. It's an opinion based on absolute fuck all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotswizard Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Why is everything else not affected then? Why does 15 million watching NCIS? Why does The Walking Dead which is on cable too also get over 10 million viewers weekly? Why does the NFL dwarf everything on TV. People's habits haven't changed at all. Millions in America on a daily basis are quite happy to sit in front of their TV. Â Â Different time now? The last I checked the Walking Dead was one of the most violent shows out there. Sex? I thought Game of Thrones had that covered. There are plenty of TV shows that are violent and sexual. Infact one of my favourite shows out just now is Colony on the USA Network and last year during it's first season it got many people talking at the fact they showed side boobage with no censoring on the nipples at 8pm. Same time USA Network shows Raw. Same channel. Â Â The WWE is the way it is for no other reason than them wanting to be that way and that's fine. Everything else on TV has changed for the better. Comedies are better. Horror is better, my goodness there are shows on at the same time of Raw that show things, unbelievable things. We have crime shows. Drama shows. Look at some of these TV shows. Some of the best actors in the world are on TV every working in the small screen because that is where the talent is, the talented writers, ORIGINAL IDEAS, talented directors, people that have their finger on the pulse and then you watch pro wrestling and it's like a 40 year time warp. It sticks out like a sore thumb. And Twin Peaks. I loved Twin Peaks, that's coming back soon. And I bet you the characters and storylines and writing on that show will blow everything else out the water. Can you imagine watching an hour of Twin Peaks and going back to a midget in a mask and a guy twice the size of him pretending the midget is hurting him, at 11pm at night? No chance. Â Â And you are right. WWE is a kids show. A kids show that ends at 11.15pm in America and 04.15am in the UK. A kids show. Bare that in mind. Even CBeebies over here cuts the cord at 7pm cause they know no kids are sitting watching past 7pm. So the Disco Inferno is right and Vince Russo is right and yes it is in opinion but when you look at the numbers other shows are doing .......people are more than willing to watch TV if they want to, they're just gonna be very choosey as to what they watch. Â Â Â And it's like the great Filter himself said to Russo when Russo started writing the WWF shows on his own. If it's good people will watch, if it's not good they wont watch. That was the almighty Filter, Vince McMahon back when he used to have his finger on the pulse. Well I guess that explains it all. A shame that 1995 Vince McMahon doesn't introduce himself to 2017 Vince McMahon. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â And that's another thing. Vince McMahon is 72 years old this year. I think when he goes that will be it, I think many TV companies and investors will do what Cbeebies do at 7pm and cut the cord. Even on Sky Sports over here where the ratings have plummeted, I think we are in the last 5 years or so of pro wrestling being on TV. The numbers are just getting lower and lower and with a 72 year old Vince McMahon winding down, the end is near. Of course it will still exist as a travelling company. They wont go out of business. I think the on screen product will start winding down definately in the next 5 years and then at the end get all the legends together, the ones still left from the 70s,80s,90s,00s and then from the 10's, the Daniel Bryans and Roman Reigns and they will do one big final curtain call on TV. Kind of like if Eastenders or Coronation Street ended. All the actors together saying goodbye and hugging because they're all good friends in real life. And that'll be it. Be a touring company then. And the crowd will stand in unison as the camera swoops over them and they will chant THIS IS AWESOME, THIS IS AWESOME! WE DESERVED IT! WE DESERVED IT! lol Edited February 20, 2017 by scotswizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted February 20, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Like Corrie or Eastenders would end? Brookside ended with a lynching and flooding then the theme off Grange Hill, Dynasty ended up with all the terrorists shooting everyone or something. Soaps end awesomely when they go. Â That's how a major company should end when it does. Blow everything up. Â Mind you, 2003 Brookside was like the Scouse Sopranos. F-bombs being dropped everywhere. It was ace. Â Â Â Edited February 20, 2017 by PowerButchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted February 20, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted February 20, 2017 "You go out to God knows where at God knows what, scare me shitless and now you want a fucking cup of tea?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted February 20, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 20, 2017 Wrestling needs to be Brookside in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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