Paid Members Tommy! Posted September 28, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Wretch said: Story behind that? Taken from Botchamania: Â JAPW and CZW had huge heat at the time, but CZW had shown interest in Ki, the Haas Brothers, and The Hit Squad, so they started using them all. As dumb as it sounds, it lead to one of the bigger dream matches in NJ indy rasslin at the time: Ki vs Ric Blade. They did like three matches total together: January 2000 in CZW, one for New Millennium Wrestling in early February 2000, and then one like a week later for CZW that was a ladder match between Ki, Blade and Mercury. Blade got hurt during the match (Low Ki had nothing to do with it either, Blade fucked himself up coming off a basketball hoop and putting Mercury through a table while Ki was selling *he actually did that back then* near the ring and couldnât see what happened) and couldnât do everything that was planned. Ki, being Ki, has always had to get his shit in. So the dude just starts flipping out in front of the crowd because he thinks itâs some kind of screw job/set up, with CZW trying to fuck him over for being a JAPW guy or whatever. Everyone is standing around wondering what to do because he wonât calm down. So security dude just decides âfuck itâ and scoops Ki up in his arms, mid-tantrum, as if he were a child throwing a hissy fit and carries him to the back. The Hit Squad tried to intervene too, and got in a shoving match with security. Neither Ki or the Hit Squad were brought back. For whatever reason CZW edited it off the video they sold and that picture is the only image from a forgotten moment in indy rasslinâ lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Thunderplex Posted September 28, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 28, 2018 8 hours ago, tiger_rick said: @Thunderplex đ Bunch of gobshites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paid Members Supremo Posted September 29, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 29, 2018 This weekâs episode of, âSomething to Wrestle With,â reminded me of this. Even at the time, I remember thinking, âthis is going to look so strange one day.â I hope Kendrick has it framed in his house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Dem Wanz Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Those Champions Scramble matches were really enjoyable, why have they only done two on the same night and none since? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Showtime Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Otto Dem Wanz said: Those Champions Scramble matches were really enjoyable, why have they only done two on the same night and none since? Bruce Pritchard mentioned it a couple of podcasts ago, saying the scramble was their hope for a new themed PPV but the rules were a bit convoluted, and I guess Vince just didn't like the result enough to keep or even tweak it. I thought they did do at least one more scramble match on another show but I can't find anything about it. Edited September 29, 2018 by Mr.Showtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I always thought it was a bit confusing to call so-and-so the "current champion, but he's not officially the champion unless he survives the match." Just change the terminology to something like "current flagholder" or whatever, and then you can still push the novelty and drama of "Kofi Kingston is thirty seconds away from becoming WWE Champion," etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted September 29, 2018 Awards Moderator Share Posted September 29, 2018 I don't think I ever saw them, were they a bit like those Time Limit Title matches you used to get on the SmackDown games, only without the title actually changing hands? Those were always one of my favourites to play. They could do them for the Cruiserweight Title or something where it doesn't matter if you're hotshotting it around 5 times in 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 It was similar to that, and I think they did that type of for the Hardcore Title a few times, the most famous one being at Wrestlemania 16 with the botched ending. The only difference was that those matches started with all participants whereas the Scramble matches had people coming in at 5 minute intervals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Statto Posted September 29, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted September 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Uncle Zeb said: I always thought it was a bit confusing to call so-and-so the "current champion, but he's not officially the champion unless he survives the match." I liked how the in-match âtitle changesâ didnât officially count, but they added  another title reign to Triple Hâs resume because he walked in & walked out champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Didnât he describe it as âone of the most gruelling matches heâd ever been inâ despite entering last and wrestling all of 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted October 1, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 1, 2018 On 9/29/2018 at 9:44 PM, Statto said: I liked how the in-match âtitle changesâ didnât officially count, but they added  another title reign to Triple Hâs resume because he walked in & walked out champion. If they announced that on the night, it certainly didn't stick. They refer to Triple H today as a 14-time World Heavyweight Champion, that includes 5 runs with the Big Gold Belt and 9 reigns with the WWF/E title including Backlash - Survivors 2008 as one continuous reign. They actually get his number right, as opposed to Flair's 16 which is wrong by officially recognized reigns (not including unofficial flip flops) by WCW, the NWA and themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted October 1, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 1, 2018 I think I counted up once and including the unofficial title reigns Flair is on about 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted October 1, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, jazzygeofferz said: I think I counted up once and including the unofficial title reigns Flair is on about 23. Including unofficial is impossible. Ric himself doesn't know, we can't possibly know. WWE uses "16-time" because that's how WCW referred to him by the end, but they make the mistake in thinking that 16 includes the twice he won the WWF title ; it did not. Ric is recognized as the NWA champion 10 times, and the WCW World Heavyweight Champion 7 times, but they elected to only consider it 16 reigns as he became recognized as the first WCW champion during his final NWA reign before heading to the WWF and being stripped of both, at which point the lineages became separate for the first time with Luger becoming the first "WCW heavyweight champion" independent of the Alliance. Two titles, but only one reign? You may not think that makes sense. But didn't include the WWF titles. Officially Ric has been recognized as the World Heavyweight Champion 18 times or 19 times depending on if you count those instances in 91 as separate or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
returner82 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 You can count how many titles he's had, but you can't count how many kisses he's given: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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