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1 hour ago, westlondonmist said:

part of the reason for large punishments is to act as a deterrent.

Nah, do rapists think "Oh hang on, I'll get 20 years and not 5 if I rape someone, better not"? Same applies to murderers. Places have the death penalty for murder and there is still murder.

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8 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said:

Nah, do rapists think "Oh hang on, I'll get 20 years and not 5 if I rape someone, better not"? Same applies to murderers. Places have the death penalty for murder and there is still murder.

Yeah, for the most part that's true. Stephen Levitt even covers that in Freakonomics. Death penalty just isn't a deterrent. The only real purpose to a long prison sentence is supposedly public safety, keeping someone dangerous away from doing anyone else any harm.

That said, heavy punishments do have one demonstrable, tangible effect, though not relevant to this particular type of offence: it's much more effective against organised crime, making it easier to flip criminals in gangs to turn informant. Doesn't always happen, but apparently much more than it used to.

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1 minute ago, Keith Houchen said:

Off Topic, I love Freakonomics. I've been pimping http://fivethirtyeight.com to all and sundry in the Baseball and Movie threads, reckon it's your kinda thang.

Cool, will check it out! Also love Freakonomics. Thanks for that.

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Can someone summaries the Cosby case for me? I've not read up on it but it's a hot topic in the canteen at my work. Was Spanish Fly involved?

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Bill Cosby has drugged and raped countless women. I and no-one in their right mind would want to dig up every detail but at least the prick will serve justice and hopefully die in jail.

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