AshC Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Â Have their ever been any really good lumberjack matches? I'm struggling to think of any. Especially in recent times, when the lumberjacks invariably end up battling one another other without too much of a reason. I know it's a gimmick that somewhat limits what the guys in there can do, but are there any examples matches that rise above the limitations of the stip? If not, it seems a bit of an odd one that it's endured for so long as a gimmick match when so many others (I'm thikning strap matches for one) have fallen out of fashion. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Benno Posted August 21, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 Daniel Bryan and Homicide had a weird one in 2005 in ROH. Weird mainly because the "lumberjacks" weren't roster members, just trainess and local talent. This did prevent any kind of mass brawl though and did lead to a pretty neat "superplex onto the lumberjacks on the outside" spot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted August 22, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted August 22, 2012 Not exactly a great match, but the one Diesel and Sid had at an early "In Your House" was pretty entertaining for the out of the ring antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted August 22, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'm not a fan of lumberjack matches, but at least they're better than blindfold matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm29195 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Eddie and Kurt had one in 2004 that was a real let down by their standards, and several ex-WWE people have said since that this was one of the nights where Eddie was a complete wreck - might also have been the match where Kurt and Eddie had a falling out over afterwards... still there was a good bit at the end where Big Show returned and laid out the entire Smackdown roster... Â I would say the best one I have seen is the Steamboat/Vader 'Human Cage' match from 1993 - has a bit of a shoddy finish but very good otherwise... Â Youtube Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I liked the Luger/Sting Lumberjack Cast match at Starrcade '99 where all the Lumberjacks were people Luger had injured on his rampage. Â My favourite, though, is probably Cena/Sabu at Vengeance '06. I enjoyed the WWE vs. ECW dynamic in the build and the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hitman Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'd say the Lumberjack is the most consistently awful gimmick match of all time. Dross like the blindfold match and the tuxedo match get rare outings and thus don't offend as regularly, but the dreadful Lumberjack matched is wheeled out a few times a year. Â There has been the odd rewarding one down the years, such as the previously-mentioned Sid/Diesel and Sabu/Cena efforts. I'd add the Bret Hart vs Owen Hart clash from one of the Coliseum Video releases around '94 as being a decent effort, but nothing like what they could have managed without the albatross of the Lumberjack stipulation around their necks. I also remember Eddie Guerrero and Triple H contesting an okay one at one of the draft lottery Raws. Usually however it just degenerates into predictable out-of-the-ring brawling and is pretty much a lazy booking device for when they don't want either man to have to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted August 22, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted August 22, 2012 I liked the Luger/Sting Lumberjack Cast match at Starrcade '99 where all the Lumberjacks were people Luger had injured on his rampage. Â I think that was Uncensored 2000 mate. I quite enjoyed that one too as it goes. I really like the visual of a lumberjack match, but the actual match quality never seems to be too memorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members CleetusVanDamme Posted August 22, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'll go with Diesel/Sid as my favourite one as well. Mainly for the spot where Nash says "fuck this safe-style bullshit" and busts out the Tope Con Diesel for the first time since he left Madagascar. Â At 6:35 Â Â Â I also remember Eddie Guerrero and Triple H contesting an okay one at one of the draft lottery Raws. Â That was just a normal match. It did end with a mass brawl between the Raw and Smackdown guys, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm29195 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Of course not forgetting the Booker T/Steve Austin lumberjack match from 2002 where Booker thought he should dress as a lumberjack... Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshC Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 That 'Human Cage' match was such a disappointment after the absolutely BELTING Steamboat and Vader had prior to it - a match so good, it wasn't even blighted by a countout finish. Was HBK vs Hacksaw any good? Not watched it in ages, remember being hyped up for it but that may have been youthful exuberance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWalsh Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 That 'Human Cage' match was such a disappointment after the absolutely BELTING Steamboat and Vader had prior to it - a match so good, it wasn't even blighted by a countout finish. Was HBK vs Hacksaw any good? Not watched it in ages, remember being hyped up for it but that may have been youthful exuberance! Â Afraid not, pretty dire to be honest, WCW back in the early 90's seem to do these better than the rest but still never quite a match of the year candidate among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshC Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 Off-topic, but in a mini-quest to find a good one, I just stumbled over this X-Pac vs Jeff Jarrett match from an old, pre-Channel 4 Sunday Night Heat - which features a mad Undertaker/Kane spot at 00.37 (in recap form). Probably wise that they never tried this again. Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llXYKPzQ1Ns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm29195 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'm sure they did the spike tombstone on Mankind as well around the same time - but yes, that was a dangerous spot - I wonder if it was as dangerous as the top rope tombstone piledriver that I'm sure I saw Justin Credible do on Jerry Lynn in ECW... Â Back on topic, wasn't there a lumberjack fans with straps revenge match between Samoa Joe and Jeff Jarrett that was disappointing? I'm sure it was Joe's first less than decent effort in TNA up to that point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyswynne Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Not a great match technically, and I don't think it was technically a Lumberjack match, but surely this must be up there? Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-N2MnuwlXw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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