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I think it's because Bellator's audience is greatly made up of people into spectacle and sideshow. And Kongo looks like a spectacle. He looks like a guy who you think should be one of the most dangerous fighters in the world. Obviously, that goes flying out the window once the fight starts, but we've seen time and time again how fighters remain draws long after they've been exposed.

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Do Bellator ratings dip/grow significantly depending on the card? Or is it like TNA on Spike, where no matter what the rating is fairly stable.

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The Bellator average for viewership appears to be in the neighbourhood of 750,000, Kong and Joe Warren do consistently strong numbers, usually in the higher end of that range. Lawal and Jackson did a big number too with 907,000 viewers. The bottom for Bellator is around 500,000 viewers; 176 (Carvalho vs. Manhoef 2) did 483,000 whilst 177 (Dantas vs. Higo) did 522,000.

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Bellator's ratings a bit like TNA's really, there's a few names on there that really spike the ratings (no pun intended) but usually it never really seems to have much of a pattern to it. Just looking at it and Julia Budd/Marlos Coenen drew 1.1million viewers which is considerably higher than several other shows with bigger names in the main event.

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Thanks.

I assume ratings haven't really increased massively since Coker came in and started spending more money?

Be interesting to see how many people buy their PPV. We've seen with TNA on Spike, that drawing a consistent audience on telly doesn't mean people are willing to buy your product.

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11 hours ago, ColinBollocks said:

Thanks.

I assume ratings haven't really increased massively since Coker came in and started spending more money?

They haven't increased massively, but they appear to have risen somewhat. They certainly look more steady and they've had more of the big peaks. I'm going through the Bellator ratings for the past couple of years, putting them all together, and I might post the results because they make for interesting reading. For example, Cheick Kongo does even better than I thought. His fight with Alexander Volkov at 139 averaged 940,000 viewers and actually peaked at just under a million. The average for that show was 764,000 viewers, so that's a big increase Kongo drew.

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Chuck Liddell's got himself into phenomenal shape. 

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That's from April. 

John Hackleman then went on Anik and Florian's podcast and fuelled some rumours of Chuck making a comeback but Chuck's laughed that off as Hack being on the windup. He did say he'd fight again if he was offered crazy money but that he doubts it'll happen. He got himself in such good shape to film a TV commercial or some bollocks apparently. 

I don't want him to come out of retirement. He walked away at the right time - when it was clear he couldn't take the punches anymore but before it did him serious damage. 

If he was ever going to come back though, I'd honestly rather see him go to Bellator because at this point I'd only be interested in him fighting those names who are on the closing stretch of their careers. Liddell vs Sonnen, Fedor or a rematch with Wanderlei would be fun even in 2017. He should stay retired but I can't lie and say I wouldn't get into those fights. A UFC return does nothing for me really though, other than the novelty of 'Chuck Liddell is back in the UFC'. He'd get destroyed by the top guys and there's nobody below that who I'd be particularly into seeing him fight. 

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They usually do less than the Cops episode that is usually on before it unless it's a big name fight.

Spike will be rebranded again next year again to the Paramount channel and they will be showing drama's presumably wanting to be more like AMC & FX, but Friday and Saturday nights aren't usually big TV nights in the US.

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Shit me, Helwani says the UFC want to do JDS vs Francis Ngannou on the September PPV. Poor Junior. I know Ngannou has a lot to prove still but, poor Junior. Even if he wins he's probably losing more brain cells in this one. 

Sad to say but this pretty much shows the UFC see JDS as not much more than a name and ex champ to feed to the up and coming beasts of the division. Nothing wrong with that. Prize fighting is a cut-throat, dog eat dog game. But it's a shame to see it happening to someone like JDS.

I like Ngannou a lot though. And it's clearly a better thing for the division if he does what the UFC clearly want and batters Junior. It'll be sad to see though.

If JDS wins, and I think it'd be nuts to count him out, all it does is eliminate an exciting potential contender in a division severely lacking them. But if Ngannou wins, instant title contender. 

EDIT - oh yeah, the UFC Sweden prelims are underway on BT Sports 2 now. So stay off twitter and shit if you're not watching live.

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i dont really like that booking. The UFC probably see it as if Ngannou wins the UFC have a locked in new contender, and if Junior wins it sets up a JDS/Miocic rubber match which no one really wants to see but could be justified if he beats Ngannou.

 

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IDK, the memory of Yair getting smashed back down the rankings by Frankie is still fresh.

This is a similar scenario. The UFC clearly are looking to strap a rocket to Ngannou and, similar to Frankie, are of the opinion it's the easiest match out of all the contenders. Absolute shitter for the UFC if Junior wins - the match makers need to have a word.

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Heavyweights have looked finished several times , I wanted Arlovski to retire in 2009, especially after Kharatonov easily beat him but he bounced back and nearly got himself a UFC title shot, Cro Cop looked finished several times but still had some decent wins, same with Mark Hunt went on a massive losing streak, the UFC didn't want him but he ended up getting an interim title shot.

Heavyweights just hit hard , especially with the small gloves, it's pretty easy to knock your opponent out if you hit them right.

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