Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack Posted July 5, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2017 I have an interview tomorrow, same company but a junior position in a different department. It's a pay cut, but it has far better prospects for the future, so I'm in two minds. Not sure having a couple of years having less money is really viable. But where I am now I've pretty close to maxed out the career path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted July 7, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 I booked my first paid freelance copywriting gig today. Granted, it's from my employer but I'm doing it outside of my normal duties - as freelance work. Which is great. Except, I don't know what I should be charging. I've looked into it and, according to Google, someone with my level of copywriting experience can expect to earn £250 a day. Which seems like a lot. It'll be about a days worth of work, so I'm wondering if maybe I should say £200? Anyone have any experience of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bus Surfer Posted July 7, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 46 minutes ago, SpursRiot2012 said: I booked my first paid freelance copywriting gig today. Granted, it's from my employer but I'm doing it outside of my normal duties - as freelance work. Which is great. Except, I don't know what I should be charging. I've looked into it and, according to Google, someone with my level of copywriting experience can expect to earn £250 a day. Which seems like a lot. It'll be about a days worth of work, so I'm wondering if maybe I should say £200? Anyone have any experience of this? The same employer that keeps giving you pay rises when you think about leaving? Sounds like you're onto a winner, Jobber.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted July 7, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 The very same, Mr Kisser. Yeah, I've been pretty lucky with this gig. Just got to knock this copy out of the park to set myself up for great success and riches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members I Bent My Wookie Posted July 17, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 17, 2017 Not even out of finishing my Masters yet and the consistent rejections I've had (at all levels) for a full time job is pushing me past the point of depression at present. It's hard enough struggling with a long term anxiety issue and Aspergers that makes the idea of customer facing work (bar's, cafe's etc) absolutely frighting outside of a Student environment (the only job I've been able to hold down has been working the bar and kitchen at my Students' Union, that even attempting to find full time (or at least good hours) for bar work but I can't even seem to land any of those with the intention of staying on past a few months so I can save for my PhD if I end up going that way inclined. With a Film Studies degree and an Arts Management Masters I've been pretty much told I'm unsuitable for seemingly every arts organisation job I've gone for, from working as a Marketing Assistant (something I've specialised in on placement and in modules) to everything in between and above because there isn't industry experience, I don't drive because of my anxiety issues, its too entry level for my qualifications. I'm at a point now, its impossible to live in a place I've spent 5 years laying ground work, meeting people, settling in and making contacts for industry, education and the likes because I can't afford to live in Bath on seemingly a part time hours, my current work place has nothing for me full time and I can't go back home as both parents houses have absolutely no room for me because of current living arrangements, let alone the absolute limited job prospects anywhere near my chosen field of degree. Honestly, its days like this (where I've just had yet another rejection because I couldn't sell myself and the stuff I have in experience through writing about myself as the job didn't accept a standard CV and I struggle with finding positives in what I do), that I begin to wonder why I've essentially wasted the last 8 years in education when I've either gone down the wrong career path for someone who struggles as much as me, or because I struggle am never going to be able to actually live independently. I'm not even sure anyone here can help, just needed to vent, nobody is home and this place seems like good sanctuary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Shy Dad said: Not even out of finishing my Masters yet and the consistent rejections I've had (at all levels) for a full time job is pushing me past the point of depression at present. It's hard enough struggling with a long term anxiety issue and Aspergers that makes the idea of customer facing work (bar's, cafe's etc) absolutely frighting outside of a Student environment (the only job I've been able to hold down has been working the bar and kitchen at my Students' Union, that even attempting to find full time (or at least good hours) for bar work but I can't even seem to land any of those with the intention of staying on past a few months so I can save for my PhD if I end up going that way inclined. With a Film Studies degree and an Arts Management Masters I've been pretty much told I'm unsuitable for seemingly every arts organisation job I've gone for, from working as a Marketing Assistant (something I've specialised in on placement and in modules) to everything in between and above because there isn't industry experience, I don't drive because of my anxiety issues, its too entry level for my qualifications. I'm at a point now, its impossible to live in a place I've spent 5 years laying ground work, meeting people, settling in and making contacts for industry, education and the likes because I can't afford to live in Bath on seemingly a part time hours, my current work place has nothing for me full time and I can't go back home as both parents houses have absolutely no room for me because of current living arrangements, let alone the absolute limited job prospects anywhere near my chosen field of degree. Honestly, its days like this (where I've just had yet another rejection because I couldn't sell myself and the stuff I have in experience through writing about myself as the job didn't accept a standard CV and I struggle with finding positives in what I do), that I begin to wonder why I've essentially wasted the last 8 years in education when I've either gone down the wrong career path for someone who struggles as much as me, or because I struggle am never going to be able to actually live independently. I'm not even sure anyone here can help, just needed to vent, nobody is home and this place seems like good sanctuary. When you say the job you applied for didn't accept a standard CV, what do you mean? Did you submit a paper/PDF one? And what were they looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, johnnyboy said: In some fields you would be expected to complete the organisation's standard application form rather than the old school covering letter and CV. Ah, okay. I thought he may have meant submitting a video or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members I Bent My Wookie Posted July 17, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 17, 2017 23 minutes ago, David said: When you say the job you applied for didn't accept a standard CV, what do you mean? Did you submit a paper/PDF one? And what were they looking for? Case of "maximum 7000 words explain your skills, qualifications and reasons you'd be good for the job kind thing". There's parts I overlooked without going into enough detail (I was pulled up for not seeming to have enough experience leading teams, when I somewhat undersold the amount of events I run with a team behind me, running my Fringe show and the likes) and that. Looking back, its a bit of a kicker, as I struggle sometimes realising just how much work I put into things so don't believe its a valid contribution to add. They've got me as the reserve interview if anyone pulls out, so as bad as it sounds, I somewhat hope someone doesn't want the job interview in the next 7 days so I can have a crack at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Shy Dad said: Case of "maximum 7000 words explain your skills, qualifications and reasons you'd be good for the job kind thing". There's parts I overlooked without going into enough detail (I was pulled up for not seeming to have enough experience leading teams, when I somewhat undersold the amount of events I run with a team behind me, running my Fringe show and the likes) and that. Looking back, its a bit of a kicker, as I struggle sometimes realising just how much work I put into things so don't believe its a valid contribution to add. They've got me as the reserve interview if anyone pulls out, so as bad as it sounds, I somewhat hope someone doesn't want the job interview in the next 7 days so I can have a crack at it. Yeah, when you're given limitations like that you're always going to second guess yourself, thinking about what you could have stressed more or highlighted better. As you say, you're next in line should someone fall out of the running, which isn't too bad at all. There were probably a good number of people who applied and didn't get anywhere, so you're doing okay mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted July 25, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 25, 2017 I just cannot take sales anymore. I hate waking up at 06:30 in the morning, I hate making sales calls, I hate gatekeepers and snarky decision makers, I hate targets, I hate it all. I'm giving my notice and this time he can't offer me nothing that'll convince me to stay. Fuck this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Thunderplex Posted July 25, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 25, 2017 30 minutes ago, SpursRiot2012 said: I just cannot take sales anymore. I hate waking up at 06:30 in the morning, I hate making sales calls, I hate gatekeepers and snarky decision makers, I hate targets, I hate it all. I'm giving my notice and this time he can't offer me nothing that'll convince me to stay. Fuck this. Sleep on it, won't be that bad tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted July 25, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, Thunderplex said: Sleep on it, won't be that bad tomorrow. Nah, I've had one foot out of the door for months. He basically had to talk me into staying the last time. I've got other stuff I want to be doing and this, even at only a couple days a week, is a headache I don't need. I will sleep on it, but can't see changing my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Thunderplex Posted July 25, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 25, 2017 Do you have something else lined up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted July 25, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Thunderplex said: Do you have something else lined up? I'm a student. Going into my final year, which is another reason I don't need the headache of this job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Thunderplex Posted July 25, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted July 25, 2017 Well if you can manage financially you might as well just plunge into your studies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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