Paid Members Dead Mike Posted July 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2012 I think aside from Chael, Frank Mir and Dan Hardy are the two best talkers in MMA. Both shit charisma and polarize opinions. There's really no middle ground, you're either tuning in to support them or hoping they receive a sound twatting. Either way at least you're arsed about their fights. Just a shame neither have a real shot at winning the title (especially in Hardy's case). MMA has tons of characters. The big loveable babyface (JDS), cocky fuckers (Chael/Mir/Hardy), the GI Joe (Stann), the fit birds (Ronda/Miesha), silent killers (Cain), monsters (Reem), showmen (Lawlor), nutters (Diaz), the funny fuckers (Serra, Bas). Heel 'foreigners' like Bisping. Legends like Wand, Hendo, Hughes.  Even the non fighters have 'characters'. Dana, Rogan etc, all big personalities. Heel officials like Winslow and Cecil. Heel managers like Greg Jackson.  If you follow MMA and get to know the stories of the guys and the history it's brilliant. It's almost as much like wrestling as wrestling is these days.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2012 Ha, you know what I mean. He's hated by a lot of fans and seen as a bit of a weasel. He can't hold a candle to Bobby Heenan though, the original weasel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted July 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2012 I really rate Jackson, he's the best coach in the game IMO. I know he's been vocal against fans with the 'just bleed' mentality, expecially after the Condit/Diaz fight when some people were claiming Jackson's 'ruining the sport' etc etc which isn't going to win him any popularity contests. That aside I can't think of another coach who's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BigJag Posted July 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2012 "Watch the official weigh-in for UFC 148: Silva vs. Sonnen 2 live Friday, July 6 at 7 pm ET/4 pm " Â Copy and pasted that from the UFC website.Is that 00:00 UK time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2012 I really rate Jackson, he's the best coach in the game IMO. I know he's been vocal against fans with the 'just bleed' mentality, expecially after the Condit/Diaz fight when some people were claiming Jackson's 'ruining the sport' etc etc which isn't going to win him any popularity contests. That aside I can't think of another coach who's better. Â Oh yeah I defo agree with that, you can't argue with his results and I've said before that I don't buy the 'Jacksons ruining MMA' stuff. Â But he does give off a bit of a smug vibe imo and the MFC/Ryan McGillivray incident a few months ago was inexcusable to me. I didn't mean he wasn't a good coach, just that he's disliked by a large group of fans for a few reasons hence making him my 'heel MMA manager' by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted July 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2012 What time are the weigh ins? Â The weigh ins will be tomorrow mate. Not sure on times but the video should be up on Youtube sometime tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 It will not be as good as the previous one, but their is a presser today at 9pm for Ortiz vs Griffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Unit Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Apparently Chael is 20lbs over which I struggle to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members lambyUK Posted July 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2012 Apparently Chael is 20lbs over which I struggle to believe  Jesus christ. Whilst I believe Chael will make weight, imagine IF he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Snake Plissken Posted July 5, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted July 5, 2012 Today's press conference was awful. It looked like a game show with Anik hosting and Ortiz mainly talked about his kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Unit Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Yeah I'm not a fan of Anik I just can't warm to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Seven Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Dave Meltzer's preview on this in the new Observer is one of the best things he's ever written (the occasional glaring errors and all). I'd copy and paste it here but it's such a good read that I'd feel guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Dave Meltzer's preview on this in the new Observer is one of the best things he's ever written (the occasional glaring errors and all). I'd copy and paste it here but it's such a good read that I'd feel guilty. Want to give us the jist of it then, or tell us why its so great. Does he just capture the moment perfectly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Seven Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I think you have to give Sonnen a lot of credit in that he's made this whole thing into easily transcribable fiction. Meltzer's stuff is, naturally, usually quite straightforward and fact-based, and the first two-thirds of this contain a lot of summarising, but when he waxes lyrical about Sonnen and who he is and who isn't and who he might actually be, it gives Big Dave the chance to throw in some flourishes. Â Fuck it, I'll post the latter half: Â Chael Patrick Sonnen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Thanks for that. Â A good read indeed, I brought up that I felt Chael had slowed down in the Bisping fight, but many felt it was down to Bisping improving, I am not too sure. now. Maybe a bit of both. Â His his view on Sonnen is a very interesting viewpoint to take and one I may even agree with. He has never offended me personally, but people forget how much shit the Lance Armstrong comments brought on. Â One thing is though, I still have not got a fucking clue what is going to happen Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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