Paid Members gmoney Posted March 17, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted March 17, 2012 I agree. Fucking horrible hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznor Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 He was getting jobbed. His last series before he left was against virgil whom he wad losing to, and Virgil at that point was onlt marginally higher up the pecking order than Barry Horowitz That means nothing though, loads of guys job on the way out, and if it wasn't on tv, it never happened. Â The Warlord was well above jobber-level over the course of his tenure, you'd be doing well to list a handful of guys he lay down for. Outside of Survivor Series, I can only really think of Tatanka on top of the couple already mentioned, and that was well towards the end of his run. In matches against most guys around IC title level (Hitman, Kerry, Bossman, Duggan etc), he'd be protected by cheap finishes - double countouts, DQ's etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moofasa Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Just looking at the Warlords win/loss record in 91. He was pinned by Sid, Bulldog,Hitman, Duggan, Hogan, Kerry, Neidhart. He pinned Tugboat, Kerry, Virgil and Greg Valentine. That gives you an idea of where he was on the card not a jobber but certainly enhancement kept strong enough to represent a monster challenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Halitosis Romantic Posted March 17, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted March 17, 2012 One day you're running over jobbers, next day you're just plain run over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznor Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Just looking at the Warlords win/loss record in 91. He was pinned by Sid, Bulldog,Hitman, Duggan, Hogan, Kerry, Neidhart. He pinned Tugboat, Kerry, Virgil and Greg Valentine. That gives you an idea of where he was on the card not a jobber but certainly enhancement kept strong enough to represent a monster challenger. Of course he's going to lay down a lot on house shows, midcard heels generally do. Where it mattered - on TV, the only pins he took in 1991 that i'm aware of, outside of Survivor Series, were from Bulldog and Anvil of all people (and that would have been seen by a fraction of WWF viewers. It probably wouldn't have happened on US TV). He was protected with cheap finishes v Bossman, Duggan, Tornado, and the Hitman. If he was anything close to being what I'd consider a jobber, or 'strong enhancement' or whatever, the WWF wouldn't have given a second thought about sacrificing him to the Hitman on his push to the IC championship, for example. Â In terms of position on the roster, he'd probably be right about in the middle. He was above the likes of the Hammer, Tito, Snuka, Virgil, Koko, Douglas, Tugboat, Haku, Barbarian, Repo, Skinner, Bravo, Steamboat, Mustafa, Busick etc, as well as most of the tag team guys. If you had to put him on a par with anyone, it would probably be someone like Dibiase or Martel through 90-91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadugly Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 We worked a couple of shows with him in Austria about 6 years ago , hesaid he had broken his neck about 6 years before that and said he had declined surgery as he knew alot of guys who had surgery for neck problems and had serious problems because of it , he opted to rehab it naturally with physio. He was in fantastic shape and spoke of hoping for a big comeback - sadly it didn`t happen. Genuinely one of the nicest ,sincerest guys we have done shows with , always offering advice about training and wrestling if asked and always good to the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopper Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Another Warlord fact: he was Batista's favourite wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted March 18, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted March 18, 2012 Didn't WWE.com randomly report, a few years ago, that he turned up at Titan Towers for a meeting with WWE "higher-ups"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasjackson Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 great in powers of pain but lost on his own, they shouldve pushed barbarian more thought, especially with heenan behind him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 http://www.wwe.com/superstars/wherearetheynow/warlordpart2  WWE.com's article on him from a couple of years ago.  Working on the road is no easy task, but sometimes you meet good people who make it easier along the way. By chance, after his time with WWE, Terry Szopinski -- a.k.a. The Warlord -- met an up-and-coming talent in Chris Jericho. "Chris is a good guy and a great wrestler," The Warlord stated. "Now I see him in WWE as one of its biggest stars. He was a good kid and is an incredible talent."  Traveling overseas touring, Szopinski and Jericho met each other and spent a good amount of time together. With the toughness of sometimes not knowing when your next meal would be when traveling, The Warlord introduced the future Undisputed WWE Champion to a smart solution on their food issues.  "I took him to this place where they bring you plates of beef and you eat as much of you want," he explained. "Chris and I went through so much that when we went back they wouldn't let us back in. We did that the next night and continued to do so all over Japan."  Unfortunately, in 1996, things would change drastically for Szopinski , whose time in the ring was put on a prolonged hiatus following a bad car accident.  "It was bad," he remembered. "I herniated three discs at the base of my neck, and had a problem with my neck for a long time."  This didn't stop The Warlord, though. After several years, he had recuperated enough to return to battle inside the ring. But, that was just a brief time as another accident -- this time involving a motorcycle -- would set Szopinski back once again.  "I tried making a comeback in 2001, but I had a motorcycle accident that tore up my quadriceps and cracked my left knee cap in half," The Warlord said. "It's funny, the bad injuries didn't even happen in the ring. They happened in accidents."  Amazingly, The Warlord's work ethic led him to another complete recovery, while also starting on a new career path.  "I work private security for the Relief Group International," said Szopinski. "They handle the auto relief group and are about to start investment banking as well."  Now, several years after two devastating accidents, The Warlord is in the best shape of his life, still competing on the independent circuit, while also having his powerful hand in several other projects.  "I'm in better shape now than I was at the beginning of my career," stated the former NWA Six-Man Tag Team Champion. "I do the security work, I do bodyguard work and I'm beginning to train some starters from the Miami Hurricanes football team. I'm also going to class starting in May to become a bail bondsman. I've got my hand in a little bit of everything."  With his bodyguard work on the side, Szopinski has had the opportunity to work with several notable entertainment and sports figures, including rapper 50 Cent, NFL running back Thomas Jones and Mixed Martial Arts fighter Kimbo Slice -- who he will once again escort during Kimbo's upcoming May 8 fight.  "It's a lot of fun - all these MMA guys bow to you, as wrestling got their whole thing going," Szopinski said. "And Kimbo nicknamed me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted March 18, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted March 18, 2012 A bit weird that his only title in the grappling game was the old NWA Six-Man belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasjackson Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 A bit weird that his only title in the grappling game was the old NWA Six-Man belts. shouldve traded tag titles with demolition at least once around royal rumble 89 time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moofasa Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 A bit weird that his only title in the grappling game was the old NWA Six-Man belts. shouldve traded tag titles with demolition at least once around royal rumble 89 time That's what gave the belts value, that not everyone got to hold them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasjackson Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 A bit weird that his only title in the grappling game was the old NWA Six-Man belts. shouldve traded tag titles with demolition at least once around royal rumble 89 time That's what gave the belts value, that not everyone got to hold them. i get that but they needed belts when they were hot after the double turn at sseries 88, after mania 5 they were never taken serious as a threat to demolition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Big Benny HG Posted March 18, 2012 Paid Members Share Posted March 18, 2012 Last time I saw him was on a combined promotion lucha show with AAA and two other groups in late 1994 ("Triple Power"?). It in the usual aired on Galavision in the usual afternoon slot and was right in the middle of the scorching hot Rey Misterio vs. Jerry Estrada and Rey Misterio Jr vs. Psicosis feuds. As well as all the luchadors, quite bizarrely, I remember the show also including El Matador, Jimmy Snuka, Doink the Clown and Warlord. He looked fantastic in a weird trios bout. Â I remember the show vividly (and gutted I didn't record it), but it seems hard to believe it was over SEVENTEEN years ago now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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