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Who is watching NXT other than the people who do already know who those people are though? On the main roster, it's a valid point, but there, it's a pretty safe assumption. Especially when hardly anyone has a character anyway, they're nearly all just themselves. 

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I'm dreading Kairi Sane's main roster debut. I can just imagine cranky Vince's reaction.

Why the fuck is that Chinese chick Hunter hired a pirate now? and why isn't she wearing an eye patch?

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4 hours ago, tiger_rick said:

Who is watching NXT other than the people who do already know who those people are though? On the main roster, it's a valid point, but there, it's a pretty safe assumption. Especially when hardly anyone has a character anyway, they're nearly all just themselves. 

Me. Sometimes I’ve heard of them, but I’d never seen Riddle, Dijakovic, Lee, Cole, O’Reilly, Fish, Black, Gargano, Shirai, Sane, or Ciampa wrestle before I saw them in NXT.

@The King Of Swing - I wouldn’t blame him! I’ve never ‘got’ the pirate thing with Kairi. It doesn’t mean anything, she doesn’t do anything with it when the bell rings, it has no explanation and no significance other than a fun costume to dress up in for her entrance. Why is she a pirate? What makes her a pirate? I’d totally get someone seeing her for the first time and thinking it’s a bit silly. I still do.

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Yep, same here. I'd heard of Adam Cole, for example, but never seen him. Loads of other guys I've never heard of or seen before. I thought Keith Lee was going to be white.

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1 minute ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

Me. Sometimes I’ve heard of them, but I’d never seen Riddle, Dijakovic, Lee, Cole, O’Reilly, Fish, Black, Gargano, Shirai, Sane, or Ciampa wrestle before I saw them in NXT.

Same here but I think we're a tiny minority given the audience for that show.

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We're the ones posting in a wrestling forum, like it's still 2003! Original smart marks!

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Keith Lee vs Dijakovic was perfect to me. It’s what I hoped Lee vs Ohno would be but sadly  failed to deliver. Exactly the showcase both of them needed, hugely beneficial to both of them, the perfect length and an excellent choice with the finish to leave people wanting more. Great pro wrasslin all round.

I wanted to like Keith Lee since he arrived as he seems pretty charismatic but that’s the first match where he’s delivered what I’ve wanted to see from him.

Dijakovic hadn’t impressed me at all before this week. He’s sort of gangly and oddly proportioned, his poses and catchphrases are crap and he’s seemed oddly mismatched with every opponent. This match did wonders for him in my eyes and has me looking forward to seeing him again. Success!  

Bayley and Sasha's homecoming was a genuinely beautiful moment. Got very choked up watching it. As much as the main roster has put them both through the wringer, their story is still one of the realest things in wrestling. Truly heartwarming stuff.

Shayna Baszler is the greatest. Was thinking when watching this that I still remember wondering how anyone would fill the void left behind by Asuka. Shayna is something different but you couldn't really have asked for a better successor. Mia Yim can be good but she was waaay over the top with her ad-libbing and selling in this match at times. Still a lot of potential there though. Cool look, capable wrestler, the people are behind her, just need to work on the character and promo stuff a bit and she's in the right place for that.

On the flipside, Aliyah and Vanessa Borne are still pretty bad. Vanessa Borne should not throw any more "punches" ever. My word. Also Aliyah has been in developmentmal forever now and remains the same. I dunno man. I think this is as good as it gets for her. Then again, I used to think Liv Morgan was never going to get it either but as part of the Riott Squad she's ended up way better than I thought she'd be.

I'm impressed with Xia Li every time I see her. They protect her very well, and limiting her role to just a hot tag in this match was a spot on decision. She's obviously still green but everything she does do looks great and her whole schtick is unique to her in the division. Taynara Conti I'd still like to see as more of a serious killer type person. I liked it when she used to hold up her legit judo black belt and look super serious before the matches whereas now she's a bouncy grinning dork type. I think that's her real personality though, so maybe she needs to keep doing what she's doing and people will warm to it. Just comes across as a bit silly to me at the moment. Her throws always look great though.

Bianca Belair vs Io Shirai should be super fun.

Dusty Classic looks great as long as the Forgotten Turds don't get too far. Do you think Buddy Murphy, lying in bed with Alexa Bliss after his latest 4.5 star cruiserweight title defense, sometimes messages Blake and goes "good to see you're doing well too m8". It's another testament to NXT's greatness and the importance it places on tag team wrestling that I was genuinely looking forward to the reveal of the other four teams in this week's episode. Fackin' love me some Dusty Classic.

The Gargano/Ciampa stuff is all over the place. Gargano making a deal with the devil because he's been caught at a low point but the fans love it because everyone loves DIY. It's all very odd but I'm entertained and I'm sure the sudden main roster call ups have forced them to freestyle a bit.

Favourite P-Watz moment this week:

Mauro: "Signature throw by the black belt in Judo"

Percy: "And you guys failed to mention she's a BLACK BELT in JUDO!"

Mauro: I uh, I just did sir!

Mauro's such a nice man. Graves would have roasted him for that.

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1 hour ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

I wouldn’t blame him! I’ve never ‘got’ the pirate thing with Kairi. It doesn’t mean anything, she doesn’t do anything with it when the bell rings, it has no explanation and no significance other than a fun costume to dress up in for her entrance. Why is she a pirate? What makes her a pirate? I’d totally get someone seeing her for the first time and thinking it’s a bit silly. I still do.

She used to do Yachting when she was younger. So you know, boats = pirates. 

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7 hours ago, TheBurningRed said:

She used to do Yachting when she was younger. So you know, boats = pirates. 

Have they ever even mentioned that on TV? Must have missed it if so. Still doesn’t make any sense for informing her wrestling but at least it’s an explanation!

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19 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

Have they ever even mentioned that on TV? Must have missed it if so. Still doesn’t make any sense for informing her wrestling but at least it’s an explanation!

If you watched the first Mae Young Classic, it felt like JR mentioned it 500 times.

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Yeah they've mentioned it quite a bit, she competed in national/international competitions so was apparently quite good at it. She also does a bit of a walk the plank shtick and calls her spear the Interceptor to throw in a couple more references. I think it's fun to have a bit of a theme and her costume is cool and marketable and she gets to say "Ahoy!" The insane elbow should surely have some kind of anchor dropping reference though.

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Anecdotally, I know a lot of people who watch NXT who have never watched any indie wrestling. No idea what the viewing figures are compared to the likes of ROH, Impact, or any of the "proper" indies, but I'd wager a large percentage of the NXT audience don't necessarily know who every indie name on the show is before they debut.

What compounds it, though, is that when they get called up to the main roster it's generally, "Hey, it's that guy from NXT!". So if they already haven't had the character development and introduction they needed in NXT, it's even worse when they make the jump. Hence EC3 being nothing more than room meat now.

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Id heard of dijakovic from reading random indy fed results but never actually seen him, same goes for Keith Lee.

I really enjoyed their match and certainly look forward to future bouts.

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10 hours ago, PunkStep said:

We're the ones posting in a wrestling forum, like it's still 2003! Original smart marks!

We're all WWE cock-suckers though, remember?

34 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

Anecdotally, I know a lot of people who watch NXT who have never watched any indie wrestling. No idea what the viewing figures are compared to the likes of ROH, Impact, or any of the "proper" indies, but I'd wager a large percentage of the NXT audience don't necessarily know who every indie name on the show is before they debut.

What compounds it, though, is that when they get called up to the main roster it's generally, "Hey, it's that guy from NXT!". So if they already haven't had the character development and introduction they needed in NXT, it's even worse when they make the jump. Hence EC3 being nothing more than room meat now.

I think that's the issue. A big portion of the NXT crowds know these people already either having seen or heard about them. The assumption that anyone who watches WWE will have seen them before or in NXT is ridiculous especially given the worldwide audience. That said though, the last couple of weeks they have done a decent job of making NXT itself seem a big deal by bringing in Black and Ricochet and having them beat everyone and showcase outstanding, charismatic work. They did produce little videos to introduce them, plus Ciampa and Gargano, but just the presentation of them as two guys who are already better than the Revival and Sheamus and Cesaro has been very simple and effective at making NXT stand out as well as these guys. But hey, wins and losses don't matter right?

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