Paid Members PunkStep Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Loki said: I don't get the attraction of it. Ā If it's someone you're already intimate with, they see you naked anyway. Ā And very, very few people look better naked than they do in their underwear. I read this in the voice of Alan Partridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Accident Prone Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 58 minutes ago, BomberPat said: Regardless, whoever did it is abhorrent, and blaming Toni is preposterous, and only a hair's breadth from, "well, if she hadn't been wearing that..." She's one of the nicest people in wrestling, and seeing so many people rally around her is the silver lining in this particular cloud.Ā Absolutely. All the "Well in this day and age she should know better" takes areĀ fucking awful. Really, really bad form here guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, SuperBacon said: Sorry? These werenāt taken from private property? Toni Storm leaked them herself? No. More likely someone she shared the photos with. Encryption canāt do anything about photos and video in the hands of a third party.* Tech companiesĀ didĀ step up security after the swathe of leaks a couple of years ago by getting people to enrolĀ in multi-factor authentication. But photos in iCloud (and I imagineĀ Android since they go up to Google Photos) alreadyĀ wereĀ encrypted. * Leaking intimate photos and video without permission now falls under ārevenge pornāĀ laws, so I hope the perpetrators are identified and prosecuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, chokeout said: Most of the time when stuff like this gets out it's because it's been shared on, not hacked.Ā Are you sure? When this happened to my friend we discovered there are huge, international websites solely dedicated to hacking accounts of either women or the partners of women that losers wish to see naked. And that was just for civillians who creeps had encountered in their lives. I suspect there's an even bigger network out there for celebrities. Wasn't that huge leak of celebrities a few years ago also attributed to a web of hackers that had been trading stolen photographsĀ for years, only for someone to go public? It's grim as fuck and the last people who should be blamed are normal, innocent folk sending their partners sexy photos. Edited January 3, 2019 by Supremo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Kat Von D Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, scratchdj said: Whilst I would agree that victim blaming is entirely wrong under any such circumstances, there's good reason why most people will lock their homes and cars, and take great care of anything or worth. Surely your own privacy/dignity is the one such thing that should be taken great care of? People lock their phones to protect the data on it just like they lock their house. People also give copies of their house keys to people they trust. You canāt say you donāt agree with victim blaming, and then proceed to start victim blaming.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Even if you leave all your doors and windows open and you get burgled, it is 100% the fault of the burglar. They know what they are doing is wrong and continue to do it regardless.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 If you think that Toni Storm is even 1% to blame or wrong in this matter, then you are victim-blaming. She is the victim of a crime. It really doesn't get much simpler than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: Even if you leave all your doors and windows open and you get burgled, it is 100% the fault of the burglar. They know what they are doing is wrong and continue to do it regardless.Ā In that scenario, you are still a fucking idiot. So I don't think it's an appropriate analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I remember The Miz's iCloud got hacked a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, tiger_rick said: In that scenario, you are still a fucking idiot. So I don't think it's an appropriate analogy. You still did nothing wrong though. And once we start talking about what you could have done to prevent the crime, you are victim blaming.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Cod Eye Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 I can see the argument from both sides to be honest. If the photos are not taken in the first place, they can't be stolen. But at the same time, why shoud anyone have to stop doing something they find enjoyable and exciting just because someone might want to be a dickhead and leak said photos onto the internet. It's a shit situation. My brother in law is a footballer. I know for a fact he takes photos of his Mrs as I saw them while showing him how to update his new phone. He's not high profile in the grand scheme of things(Chapionship level), but is probaly known by many more people than know the ass were talking about here, and I tell him all the time to make sure things like the photos are secure, and not to share with anyone. Trouble is, it feels like he thinks he is untouchable and the advice is going in one ear and out the other. And I think that is a huge part of the issue with people in the public eye. They are hero worshipped by people so much, they feel like they are untouchable, and it's just not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Cod Eye said: My brother in law is a footballer. I know for a fact he takes photos of his Mrs as I saw them while showing him how to update his new phone. Sorry, just to clarify, does that mean you've seen your sister naked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: You still did nothing wrong though. And once we start talking about what you could have done to prevent the crime, you are victim blaming.Ā In this instance, I genuinely think we're talking "advice with hindsight". Of course Toni Storm should be able to send private pictures to someone without them betraying her trust. Anyone should. But like everything, where you park your car, which way you walk home, whether you lock your doors and put your alarm on when you leave home, etc, there's always an element of protecting yourself. It might be that there was nothing she could have done if it was a long-term relationship with someone she trusted implicitly. Then she's just been done over. But it's a lesson everyone should think about IMO. I'd certainly talk to my girls about being ultra-careful with this stuff (Might leave it a while with my 4yo). And none of this is excusing the cunt who did it. Edited January 3, 2019 by tiger_rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Cod Eye Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, garynysmon said: Sorry, just to clarify, does that mean you've seen your sister naked? My sister-in-law. Mr Brother in law is my Mrs' brother. Edited January 3, 2019 by Cod Eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted January 3, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Cod Eye said: My sister-in-law. As in, my Mrs' brother. Nice work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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