the stupid dragon Posted July 27, 2011 Author Posted July 27, 2011 When you say pro wrestling was (for a brief time at least) legit, do you mean people were doing moves like elbow drops off the top turnbuckle as a legitimate offensive attack? I know wrestling evolved by getting fixed, which is where pro wrestling originated, and that started around 1900, though I thought the fancy moves (like elbow drops from the top turnbuckle) were invented since it became predetermined and more about creating a spectacle. Though I image in 1900 pro wrestling can't have been much different to amateur wrestling as all the fancy stuff came in the second half or last centuary, unless someone knows otherwise? Â Does anyone know of any books or sources where I can find out more on how pro wrestling came about?
Richie Freebird Posted July 27, 2011 Posted July 27, 2011 When you say pro wrestling was (for a brief time at least) legit, do you mean people were doing moves like elbow drops off the top turnbuckle as a legitimate offensive attack? I know wrestling evolved by getting fixed, which is where pro wrestling originated, and that started around 1900, though I thought the fancy moves (like elbow drops from the top turnbuckle) were invented since it became predetermined and more about creating a spectacle. Though I image in 1900 pro wrestling can't have been much different to amateur wrestling as all the fancy stuff came in the second half or last centuary, unless someone knows otherwise? Â People were most certainly not doing any turnbuckle moves, slingshots, Irish whips or anything even remotely flashy in this era. I
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted July 27, 2011 Paid Members Posted July 27, 2011 When you say pro wrestling was (for a brief time at least) legit, do you mean people were doing moves like elbow drops off the top turnbuckle as a legitimate offensive attack? Do you think before you post? We'll have a shoot match. You try a top-rope elbow drop and see how far you get. Not to mention in "real" pro wrestling it was illegal to leave the ring, and that includes scaling to the top rope.
Richie Freebird Posted July 27, 2011 Posted July 27, 2011 We'll have a shoot match. You try a top-rope elbow drop and see how far you get. Not to mention in "real" pro wrestling it was illegal to leave the ring, and that includes scaling to the top rope. Â I
Paid Members air_raid Posted July 27, 2011 Paid Members Posted July 27, 2011 Three punches-boot-legdrop-igatame is a legitimate finish in Judo, amateur, UFC and pretty much everything.
Paid Members CoreyVandal Posted July 28, 2011 Paid Members Posted July 28, 2011 Professional wrestling was a term used to distinguish the product from 'wrestling', which most Americans would probably associate with the collegiate sport. You don't need to confuse the technical definition of the word 'professional' with its purpose in this sense. There are plenty of unprofessional professional wrestlers.  ^This^  'Professional Wrestling' is the name of the industry/genre/pseudo-sport, therefore there are 'professional' Pro Wrestlers and 'amateur' Pro Wrestlers.  Arguing that someone isn't a professional wrestler because they don't get paid/make a living from it is the same as arguing that the theory of evolution is 'just a theory'. It's a clear misunderstanding of the meaning of that word within that specific context.
the stupid dragon Posted July 28, 2011 Author Posted July 28, 2011 Wow. You just love playing devil's advocate, don't you? Â Do you think before you post? Â Khemical my friend, perhaps your too swept up in conforming to my devil's advocacy to really understand the methods to my apparent maddness. Â
Barrington Posted July 28, 2011 Posted July 28, 2011 Back in the old days of WOS, you had to actually be able to wrestle (or have some sort of legit martial art background) so no one could question you could really fight. They would work their way up in freestyle wrestling, and then when they really knew how to wrestle for real, they'd go on to wrestle in the pro ranks, making a living out of it. Jon Cortez, Mike Morino, Mick McManus and many more were world champions of freestyle wrestling (or at least British champions). Nowadays no one needs to know how to really wrestle which is a shame because it adds so much more to a bout when you have that shoot fight aspect to it.
the stupid dragon Posted July 28, 2011 Author Posted July 28, 2011 People were most certainly not doing any turnbuckle moves, slingshots, Irish whips or anything even remotely flashy in this era. I
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted July 28, 2011 Paid Members Posted July 28, 2011 Khemical my friend, perhaps your too swept up in conforming to my devil's advocacy to really understand the methods to my apparent maddness. Â Yes. You're some omnipotent being with unparalleled interest. Shame you're wasting it on a professional wrestling fan forum.
the stupid dragon Posted July 28, 2011 Author Posted July 28, 2011 Yes. You're some omnipotent being with unparalleled interest. Shame you're wasting it on a professional wrestling fan forum. Â Dude, I just crave knowledge about something I love. There's no need to be a hater.
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted July 28, 2011 Paid Members Posted July 28, 2011 Dude, I just crave knowledge about something I love. There's no need to be a hater. There's no harm in that. I'm just sick of the ulterior motives bullshit.
the stupid dragon Posted July 28, 2011 Author Posted July 28, 2011 There's no harm in that. I'm just sick of the ulterior motives bullshit. Â And what ulterior motives bullshit would they be?
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