Paid Members martyngnr Posted April 13, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 13, 2011 I guess Brian Pillman took his loose canon character quite seriously... That's really offensive imo./ Why is it offensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted April 13, 2011 Author Paid Members Share Posted April 13, 2011 Anyone ever watch a reality show about someone you know of really well? I was watching Gene Simmons reality show, and its pretty interesting in regards to wrestlers and their characters, because its in a similar vain to how you hear Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan talk about things that they have NEVER done in their life. This show is so fake, its scary. Simmons is known as a "smart man" in the world of celebrity, for how helped brand 4 blokes in wigs and plantforms into a multi-million dollar business even though they havent released much music in the last 20 years. But the show is filled with exploiting his mothers Holocaust survival by doing episodes where a boy "wants to do a project for school on him", which gives Simmons a chance to have a bit of a cry with the camera three foot away from him. He fell on his arse skiing and was lost for 45 minutes even though the camera crew were with him. His lass found a lump on her breast while the cameras were in a changing room at a clothes store (I know its softcore-porn star Shannon Tweed, but why were the cameras in there?) and the show is shot in a TNA Reaction style were the cameras JUST catch the action with the door slightely creeking open. Its quite mental, and oddly enough incredibly addictive. Celebrities in general are completely off their tits. They arent real people, especially the ones who wear spandex. Wrestlers are so outside the box of the celebrity world and so low down on the foodchain and are treated as such jokes, you can forgive them a bit. They probably have spent years being beat down by the "real world" that they feel the need to lie and make it sound like they are not. And the band KISS are in the same boat. They have about as much credibility in the music world as Ric Flair has in the field of entertainment, and Simmons probably has to master another field of the business to make himself seem more of a star than his music suggests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Aren't these increasingly fake 'reality' shows the norm now? Coming up with a marketable gimmick and being 'in character' at all times seems to be what sells. The Situation is basically a wrestling character. Jordan is basically a wrestling character. The hope that Jedward and the cretins in 'The Only Way is Essex' aren't quite real people is the only thing that stops me praying for nuclear holocaust. Wrestlers who took their characters too seriously were probably ahead of their time, in pop culture terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Wrestler`s Wrestler DKJ Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Speaking of "wrestling character" I find this just a little hypocritical from the Hitman "I also had to scratch my head and wonder how the WWE could pull the Sheamus v Daniel Bryan match and let Jerry Lawler and Michael Cole go for 30 minutes. It just seemed really crazy to me. My biggest disappointment was that two of the best wrestlers in the company, Bryan and Sheamus, didn't get a chance to show what they can do on a WrestleMania. I thought Lawler v Cole was built up really well, with most fans wanting to get their hands round Cole's neck by the time WrestleMania came. But I don't know why they went so long. It's not a match that needs to go very long. Michael Cole clearly can't actually do anything. That's the part I don't get. It should have been about four or five minutes long max. Sadly going so long, meant they really took all the light away from the other wrestlers that earned it through the year." Did he really say that? That's brilliant. He must have a dry as fuck sense of humour. Yeah he REALLY did The part about what he thought about the Cole v King match comes after the C.M Punk bit that Ian-Hitman started this topic with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejeffjarrettone Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think its a sad state of affairs that some wrestlers can't seem to discern the difference between Wrestler X The Human Being and Wrestler X The Character/Persona. Some of the best gimmicks have come from taking a small part of a persons life and blowing it up 1000 times, but living that for extended periods of time can make it difficult for that person to tell what is real and what isn't anymore. Case in point: Hulk Hogan. The guy is clearly a good few miles from the sanity tree. Hogan is surely a special case here, though. He's a larger than life character who might seem ridiculous to you or me, but that's why he's a superstar. For Hulk Hogan, read Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lady Gaga, Russell Brand, or just about anyone whose level of fame has ever transcended their ostensible profession. Arnie never once believed he was a barbarian capable of slaughtering millions or a cyborg from the future. I've never heard him once say "I'm actually an officer of the law in deep cover at a pre-school as well as the son of a Greek God, but only on my days off from hunting down invisible aliens". Hogan on the other hand? "Oh yeah, I've seen guys living in their vans! Used to live in one myself! That thing with the bottle of painkillers? Instead of 4, I had 400 in a bottle! I've done 100s of staple gun matches (whatever the fuck that is), I know guys who do 3 staple gun matches a day!! One of Muhammad Ali's kids stopped me from offing myself!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted April 13, 2011 Author Paid Members Share Posted April 13, 2011 Arnie never once believed he was a barbarian capable of slaughtering millions or a cyborg from the future. I've never heard him once say "I'm actually an officer of the law in deep cover at a pre-school as well as the son of a Greek God, but only on my days off from hunting down invisible aliens". Hogan on the other hand? "Oh yeah, I've seen guys living in their vans! Used to live in one myself! That thing with the bottle of painkillers? Instead of 4, I had 400 in a bottle! I've done 100s of staple gun matches (whatever the fuck that is), I know guys who do 3 staple gun matches a day!! One of Muhammad Ali's kids stopped me from offing myself!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejeffjarrettone Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Arnie never once believed he was a barbarian capable of slaughtering millions or a cyborg from the future. I've never heard him once say "I'm actually an officer of the law in deep cover at a pre-school as well as the son of a Greek God, but only on my days off from hunting down invisible aliens". Hogan on the other hand? "Oh yeah, I've seen guys living in their vans! Used to live in one myself! That thing with the bottle of painkillers? Instead of 4, I had 400 in a bottle! I've done 100s of staple gun matches (whatever the fuck that is), I know guys who do 3 staple gun matches a day!! One of Muhammad Ali's kids stopped me from offing myself!!" Right, could you just link me straight to the part where he starts swinging a broadsword around or gets shot a bunch of times then just heals up like nothing ever happened? Or did that not happen? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted April 13, 2011 Author Paid Members Share Posted April 13, 2011 Arnie never once believed he was a barbarian capable of slaughtering millions or a cyborg from the future. I've never heard him once say "I'm actually an officer of the law in deep cover at a pre-school as well as the son of a Greek God, but only on my days off from hunting down invisible aliens". Hogan on the other hand? "Oh yeah, I've seen guys living in their vans! Used to live in one myself! That thing with the bottle of painkillers? Instead of 4, I had 400 in a bottle! I've done 100s of staple gun matches (whatever the fuck that is), I know guys who do 3 staple gun matches a day!! One of Muhammad Ali's kids stopped me from offing myself!!" Right, could you just link me straight to the part where he starts swinging a broadsword around or gets shot a bunch of times then just heals up like nothing ever happened? Or did that not happen? No? Oh, I didn’t know we had a league table of how strong or different the lie has to be to help you along with your argument that only wrestlers lie to help further their own perception. Alright, which one is more mental and makes you sound like a bigger shithead: “becoming a hate figure for an entire state because he lies to the people who voted for him by using underhanded means to further his political and personal life” or “pretended to slam a 700 pound man in a fake wrestling match”. I'll go one better though. Sylvester Stallone has pretended to have injuries in every film he promotes to make the film sound appealing to the buyers. So they can go "he really got his leg broke in this one! SOUNDS CLASS!" I think he said the old bat from Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot kicked him in the balls or something, eventhough her legs didnt event raise off the ground at that stage of her life. Actors are as big a spanners as wrestlers all. Promoting is the name of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted April 13, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 13, 2011 Speaking of "wrestling character" I find this just a little hypocritical from the Hitman (snip) I know what you're saying, that Bret vs Vince was booked to go much longer than it should have given his physical capabilities, at the expense of, say, Rey and Punk only having 6 minutes bell to bell, but it in no way makes him a hypocrite. It won't have been him that turned around and said "oh and right when I have Vince beaten, I'll hit him with a chair for another five minutes." Furthermore, he's right what he said about Cole/Lawler. Even with the add ons, there is no way they should have been out there that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejeffjarrettone Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Arnie never once believed he was a barbarian capable of slaughtering millions or a cyborg from the future. I've never heard him once say "I'm actually an officer of the law in deep cover at a pre-school as well as the son of a Greek God, but only on my days off from hunting down invisible aliens". Hogan on the other hand? "Oh yeah, I've seen guys living in their vans! Used to live in one myself! That thing with the bottle of painkillers? Instead of 4, I had 400 in a bottle! I've done 100s of staple gun matches (whatever the fuck that is), I know guys who do 3 staple gun matches a day!! One of Muhammad Ali's kids stopped me from offing myself!!" Right, could you just link me straight to the part where he starts swinging a broadsword around or gets shot a bunch of times then just heals up like nothing ever happened? Or did that not happen? No? Oh, I didn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted April 13, 2011 Author Paid Members Share Posted April 13, 2011 I said that Arnold Schwarzenegger never took any of his roles in his films so seriously that his perception of reality was so askew from everyone elses that he sounded like an escaped mental patient every time he opened his mouth. What Arnold Schwarzenegger? This fucking bloke is so into himself and his own bullshit that most of what he says in interviews leading up to his films is bullshit. He's the biggest self promoter in Hollywood. You must not have seen much of Arnie. Wrestlers are well aware of what they are saying, just like Arnie is. Just because Meltzer and a few people "in the know" on the internet thinks wrestlers lying to the general public who wont be arsed enough to research what they say makes them mental, doesnt mean they are. I love Arnie though. I love most larger than life bullshitters in Hollywood, music and wrestling. Thats why they are so appealing. They dont seem to be from this world. Yes, ok, he lied during his time in office. That does not make him derranged. Prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Arnie never once believed he was a barbarian capable of slaughtering millions or a cyborg from the future. I've never heard him once say "I'm actually an officer of the law in deep cover at a pre-school as well as the son of a Greek God, but only on my days off from hunting down invisible aliens". Hogan on the other hand? "Oh yeah, I've seen guys living in their vans! Used to live in one myself! That thing with the bottle of painkillers? Instead of 4, I had 400 in a bottle! I've done 100s of staple gun matches (whatever the fuck that is), I know guys who do 3 staple gun matches a day!! One of Muhammad Ali's kids stopped me from offing myself!!" Right, could you just link me straight to the part where he starts swinging a broadsword around or gets shot a bunch of times then just heals up like nothing ever happened? Or did that not happen? No? Oh, I didn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paid Members Supremo Posted April 14, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 14, 2011 Whilst Bret may have taken his character a bit too seriously (in turn making his book a complete drag to get through), I'd much rather we had those type of main eventers than what we have now, where guys like Cena allow themselves to look like complete knobs. If Cena took his character as seriously as guys like Bret and Austin did, I imagine he'd be ten times the star he currently is by not allowing the writing crew to make him sound like such a tit so often. Had he given more of a shit about how he was portrayed, I imagine The Rock vs. John Cena angle would've played out far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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