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WWE kicked him out on his arse when he pulled the kind of shit he's doing here.

No they didn't. They suspended him, brought him back and gave him the World title three times. He left because he didnt want to resign with them, he got arrested for drug trafficking and they announced to their stockholders as he waited trail that they offered him seven figures to return and he turned them down. What ever company it is, WWE, TNA, WCW, ECW or whoever, if your a big star, you get different treatment to the Shark Boys of this world. Jeff Hardy worked for TNA in 2005 and unlike Sunday, he just never showed up for a PPV. As soon as his contract ran out WWE hired him. WWE will probably rehire him if TNA sack him. People will rather throw blame around rather than deal with the problem at hand. Wrestling isnt in the most healthy states business wise. If WWE could get Jeff Hardy back of course they'll bring him in.

 

Hardy got fucked up backstage at a wrestling event. Nothing new there. The only difference is, TNA sent him out to the ring for all to see. WWE would never do that.

 

See I read that this was the case -

 

Hardy, however, was released from WWE on April 22, 2003.The reasons given for the release were Hardy's erratic behavior, drug use, refusal to go to rehab, deteriorating ring performance, as well as constant tardiness and no-showing events. Hardy also cites "burn out" and the need for time off as reasons for leaving WWE.
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Is that the time he asked for his release for months and finally got let go because he refused to go to rehab? Some punishment they were giving him for his drug taking ways. He'd just kickstarted a feud with Shawn Michaels. They basically had to release him, otherwise they'd have been paying him to sit at home, because he'd already told them he wasnt coming back to work. Anyway, even when they did release him, they were still paying him for appearances to promote the Hardy Boyz autobiography they had released. WWE really showed they werent putting up with his shit (apart from refusing to release him from his contract, paying him after his release and wanting to put him in a feud with one of their biggest stars etc.) Wikipedia fails to mention that obviously. In 2010, when he was awaiting trail for drug trafficking, they were offering a wrestler who had previously had two strikes against their drug policy over a million dollars to return to the promotion. So obviously, WWE is more than happy to take whatever shit Jeff Hardy brings with him.

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TNA needs some freshness though. The iMPACT Zone and the likes of RVD/Anderson make it a struggle, at times.

Speaking of, Hogan said this over on Twitter when a fan asked him about more shows on the road:

 

"We're really trying, brother. Putting the numbers and the deal together as we speak."

 

Well I hope that's true. I can't begin to describe how much better the show comes off in an arena, than that awful Impact Zone.

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never mind im sure mods can change the title

 

March 24th Impact ******SPOILERS********

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Xplosion: Max Buck b. Jeremy Buck - said to be better than anything on Impact.

 

Long opening promo from Mr. Anderson where he's in the ring with a professor and then lays him out because he's an asshole. Bischoff and Hogan come out to bury him. Rob Van Dam comes out, says he doesn't know why he works for TNA and drops Vince Russo's name. This sets up Anderson vs. RVD for the #1 contendership tonight.

 

Mickie James b. Tara - Mickie had a staredown with Madison Rayne after the match.

 

Okada b. The Pope via DQ - Pope beat Okada down, and Samoa Joe made the save.

 

Ric Flair puts over Bully Ray and Matt Hardy as the best thing going today, this leads to Abyss, Ric Flair, Matt Hardy & Bully Ray vs. Kazarian, Beer Money and a mystery partner as the Lethal Lockdown match - they claim AJ Styles is out after the powerbomb. Fortune come out to attack them, but Abyss comes out and lays them out by himself.

 

Hernandez & Estavo b. Matt Morgan & Devon - the new stable with Sarita and Rosita is called Mexican America. Velvet Sky came out to brawl with Sarita and Rosita, Angelina Love came out as well, but Winter held her back.

 

Rob Van Dam b. Mr. Anderson via DQ - Sting was at ringside, and there was a ref bump, so Sting acted as a ringside enforcer. Anderson gave RVD a Mic Check into the ringpost. Anderson asked Sting to count RVD out, but he refused, so Anderson attacked Sting for the DQ. A pull apart brawl started and security broke it up.

 

Credit: @I_Am_Hollywood & @MrJacobCohen

 

Apparently anderson rvd maybe another no contest and also Abyss returns the week after they strip him of the tv title

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Just edit it from your original post.

 

Flair, Hardy, Abyss and Bubba vs Fortune might be the worst War Games/Lethal Lockdown lineup I've ever seen. And what's Abyss doing back! He got stripped of the belt last week. Actually on this set of tapings, so he was there on the day. Why didnt he just keep the belt?

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More detailed spoilers for March 24th:

 

Dark Match:

 

Robbie E def. Bobby Shields. Shields is from Taz's Team Taz Finishing Camp.

 

iMPACT:

 

They're setting up for the start of Impact. They have a whiteboard with formulas, graphs and calculations in the center of the ring. Mr. Anderson's music starts and the crowd erupts. He comes to the ring with a gentleman in a suit. He's Professor Shubert from the University of Green Bay. He's one of the finest mathematicians to ever come out of Wisconsin. Anderson admits they didn't get along because when the professor was talking about integers he was thinking about Mary Beth Kapowski. Now he's here because these two a--holes backstage, Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan, their math is off. Last week he had a match with Reefer Van Dam. Both guys had their shoulders down. 1 2 3 = tie. Add that to the fact he never got his rematch. 0 + his one rematch he didn't get = I WANT MY FRICKING REMATCH! Now back to Mary Beth Kapowski. Professor, did you not approve because he was teaching integers or because he was into her? She told Anderson that Shubert told her he was gay. Anderson asks if that's true. Shubert admits it was true. Anderson says that's cool, one of his best friends is gay. So let me give you something to remember me by. Anderson Mic Checks the professor. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff then come out. Eric asks if he's trying to be funny? He's a bad comedian. Eric asks Hulk if this is the same guy he sees something in? Eric asks Anderson if he goes around beating up every teacher he didn't like. Eric says he's done with him. Hogan says hold on, he thinks Anderson is hilarious. He's spot on. But he's been running amuck, breaking the rules, breaking my rules. He says Anderson can do this the easy way or the hard way. The easy way is the Immortal way and every perk that comes with it. He tells him there is no rematch unless Anderson earns it and he hasn't earned it. Anderson says he's earned it already. Hogan says all he has is a contract signed by Dixie Carter. He can take that contract and wipe his a-- with it. Hogan says if Anderson can beat Rob Van Dam then he gets his shot. Anderson says RVD isn't even in his league. RVD's music immediately hits. RVD says don't act surprised. This is pro wrestling. You talk smack, the guy's music hits, he comes out, you answer for what you said. RVD isn't happy about this but will do what he has to to get the title. He was here because everybody called him to come to TNA but came because Hulk Hogan called him and said be who you want. If that's true then this is RVDTV. Sting comes out to the ramp. He said that he spoke to the network since they've been talking to Hogan nd Bischoff so much. They said in RVD vs. Anderson they want him to be the special enforcer. And if something goes wrong then he's in charge and that means it's SHOWTIME!

 

Mickie James vs. Tara. Winner via Last Kiss Goodnight, Mickie James. TNA Knockout Women's Champion Madison Rayne stood on the entrance ramp after the match. She and Mickie had a stare down until Madison left.

 

Okato vs. "The Pope" D'Angelo Dinero. Winner via DQ after Pope hit Okato while wearing rings, Okato. After the match, Dinero knocked the referee out with a backhand. Samoa Joe ran out but Pope bailed. Okato got his mouth busted open during the match. Afterwards trainers checked him while he bled. They helped him to the back and cleaned the blood from the ring.

 

Ric Flair "styles and profiles" to the ring with Bully Ray and Matt Hardy. Flair likes to steal the show but tonight "god" is here for others. He's here with two of the best tag team wrestlers of all-time. Hardy says he has some guys they've all had problems with and those guys are Fortune. He wants them all out here right now. He and Ray were young and hungry like those guys once. But he and Ray changed the industry. Crowd chants we want Fortune. He says they became mega celebrities, making lots of money and gaining lots of success. But the same people shaking their hands along the way and saying they were great were also working against them knowing they couldn't control them. Crowd chants boring and is very against Hardy talking. He goes on saying that he, Ray, Flair, Immortal are where it's at and need to get with them to achieve their dreams and aspirations. Bully Ray says he sent AJ Styles a message last week, powerbombing him through a table. Why did he do it? Because he can. Now that they've taken care of AJ, how about the rest of Fortune take them on? Or do they not have the balls for it? Fortune comes out and attacks Immortal. They beat them all up and get ready to take Flair out. The lights go down except for red lights. Abyss appears, wearing a duster and a new outfit. He takes out Fortune and Immortal start laying a major beat down on Fortune. Bully Ray uses his chain, Abyss hits some Black Hole Slams as Fortune can't do anything about it. Immortal leaves a battered and bruised Fortune laying in the ring.

 

Hernandez, his new associate, Sarita and Rosita come to the ring. He says he knows you know who Sarita and Rosita are. His new friend is Esteban something or other. He's his assistant in this new association of Mexican Americans. They're taking your women and your jobs. They keep mixing in things in Spanish so I don't always know what they're saying. Hernandez says they're the superior race. Soon the people will stop worshiping this (an American flag comes down) and will soon worship this (a giant Mexican flag comes down). Loud USA chant starts. Hernandez says Matt Morgan and Devon want a fight, they can have a street fight right now. Matt Morgan and Devon come out and accept.

 

Street fight, Hernandez & Esteban vs. Matt Morgan & Brother Devon. During the match Sarita and Rosita interfere so Velvet Sky ran down and attacked them. She couldn't handle both and a beatdown occurs until Angelina Love comes out. She slowly walks towards Sarita and Rosita. She looks weird and has a vacant look. Winter comes out and screams at Angelina to leave. Angelina leaves and the beat down on Velvet continues until Morgan stops it. While this is happening, Esteban hits Devon from behind with a loaded forearm shot for the win. Winners via loaded forearm, Hernandez & Esteban.

 

Brooke Hogan and Hulk's wife are here again.

 

Rob Van Dam vs. Mr. Anderson with special guest enforcer TNA Champion Sting. Referee Brian Hebner got knocked out during the match so Sting took over as referee. No winner as Sting and Anderson started fighting. Anderson slid a chair in the ring. While Sting got rid of it, Anderson kicked RVD in the groin and then hit a Mic Check on RVD into the ring post. Anderson demanded Sting count him out but they argued and ended up fighting. Security and agents ran down and had to break the two apart.

 

Xplosion:

 

Jeremy Buck vs. Max Buck. Winner via corkscrew blockbuster off the top, Max Buck.

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Thats the first time Ive seen Stings new gear and Im at a loss how people on here said he looked cheap and like some indie wrestler, he looks phooking pimp in that photo with the belt too, great stuff.

 

So the Tsunami line will be cut, well that makes things a whole lot better doesn't it :angry: That whole place is a fuck up of epic proportions and the sooner they get rid of Hogan Bischoff Russo RVD both the Hardys and everyone else that is dragging TNA through the shit the better.

 

What the F*** is going on in TNA :omg:

 

Is it for the better though? how were TNA doing before Hogan and Co, what were their ratings? Like WCW I dont think you can point the finger at one or two people, its a collective failure, I think 2010 was probably a very good year for TNA, at the same time they also took massive miss steps, again already 3months into this year its the same thing, out the impact zone, very good, Jeff Hardy not so good and so on.

 

In the end its Dixie hiring people like Jeff, I think she should quit twitter and doing daft things like that shoot video, you dont see Vince on Twitter or even steph, she needs to get ruthless and stop trying to be nice to everyone.

 

At the moment TNA are just lucky their is no 3rd mainstream promotion, because while TNA have along way to catch WWE, I think to catch and surpass TNA wouldnt be so hard.

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It bloody would be hard, otherwise someone would have done it. ROH, Wrestling Society X have both failed to make the leap, and various things like XWF and whatever was being planned in Florida last year have also sunk without a trace.

 

It is, and always has been, incredibly hard to persuade networks to show professional wrestling. To persuade them to invest, as Spike has done (they pay Sting's wages), even more difficult. Dixie has managed to do something that nobody's done since the fall of WCW - get an international sized wrestling company up and running, and sign WWE stars to long-term contracts. I'm still waiting for Heyman, Cornette or any of the other armchair bookers out there to do the same.

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Loki's right. Whatever you think of their storylines or hiring process, to get TNA to a level where they are on a major network with a loyal fanbase is a big thing. Wrestling is generally seen as a shit form of panto, and it didnt look like anyone wanted to touch a none WWE product when WCW went down. People forget, WCW never got "bought out". WCW went out of business, because they couldnt find another TV channel to air them, so the sale never went through with Bischoff's group. There's been so many promotions that have tried and failed. TNA have been a big success. Remember how wrestling was in 2002? Only one promotion, who had about 200 wrestlers under contract and most of them weren't even on TV. TNA may do mental things, but their fanbase remains loyal and their TV station remains loyal to them also.

 

Also, no matter what people say, Jeff Hardy was always worth the risk. He's was (until they stupidly turned him heel) drawing on the road and selling more merchandise than anyone in their company. When he was available, you'd have took a spin on him. Anyone in TNA's position would have.

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It bloody would be hard, otherwise someone would have done it. ROH, Wrestling Society X have both failed to make the leap, and various things like XWF and whatever was being planned in Florida last year have also sunk without a trace.

 

It is, and always has been, incredibly hard to persuade networks to show professional wrestling. To persuade them to invest, as Spike has done (they pay Sting's wages), even more difficult. Dixie has managed to do something that nobody's done since the fall of WCW - get an international sized wrestling company up and running, and sign WWE stars to long-term contracts. I'm still waiting for Heyman, Cornette or any of the other armchair bookers out there to do the same.

 

Which is why I said 3rd mainstream promotion, not any random/indie 3rd promotion, basically something that is already on level grounds or not far behind with TNA and WWE, something that is already on a good network and good fan base etc and decent budget like TNA has, ROH and the like were none of these things, yes starting from scratch would be hard as fuck, even harder now because lets face it UFC have plans for world domination and since america is the centre of wrestling the chances of a new promotion ever starting again is well and truly over now, from every aspect of new young guys going into MMA and not wrestling or boxing (didnt Taker say he would do MMA if he was younger? so theirs a good example) and from a business point of view you're just going to loose a shit load of money for no reason.

 

Thats probably why that new group in Florida most likely just said fuck it, before even starting.

 

So for the foreseeable future we are stuck with WWE and TNA, which is why I'm baffled some fans want TNA to go out of business, whether people liked WCW/ECW or not, you cant deny the business went shit after they went away and imo still hasnt recovered and might never with how UFC are doing business.

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Though I can be one of TNA's biggest critics, I won't disagree with Loki or Ian here. They've done an incredible job to get TNA to where it's at today and have guys like Ric Flair, Hogan and Kurt Angle attatched to their brand. To attract upwards of one million viewers (I don't know the exact figures) each week to watch a wrestling show is a tremendous feat, especially when wrestling is considered to be so uncool at the moment.

 

Even when WWE have guys like The Rock, The Undertaker, John Cena and Triple H appearing on their flagship weekly show, TNA are still in the region of attracting around a quarter of that number of viewers which is impressive.

 

Okay, TNA are still light years behind WWE in other sectors of the industry but the ability to have got to where they're at now should not be discredited.

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