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Was really impressed with Feijao coming through a rough couple of rounds and pulling off the big win.Mo was looking great early on but Feijao's takedown defense was better than I thought it would be and Mo was leaving his hands dangerously low a few times and paid for it in the end.I think a lot of people,including me,kind of overlooked Feijao going into this one.

 

Jacare/Kennedy was closer than I expected.I thought Kennedy would be competitive but I expected Jacare to be too much in the end and catch him in a submission in the later rounds.I did agree with the decision but it was close, I wouldn't mind a rematch down the road.

 

Noons/Gurgel was a good little round and a bit.Bit of controversy with the after the bell punch at the end of the first and the dodgy knee at the finish.Still it was a pretty decisive win for Noons.This really was a fight Gurgel would have been wise to try to take to the ground.He'd have had a big advantage there,Noons' boxing was just too much for him.

 

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Couldn't find any gifs of the Feijao/King Mo finish.

 

I dunno where Lashley goes from here.I guess it depends if he wants to carry on.He might aswell go ahead with the Batista fight next,make a bit of cash and try to rebuild himself.He had a few chances with submissions and never took advantage of them,there's a lot of room for improvement but if he wants to make a go of his MMA career he'll need more than just his wrestling.

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I hope someone's got Scott Coker on suicide watch - Lashley and Mo both losing by stoppage is not good for Strikeforce. Speaking of Mo, we saw him get exposed here, at last, against someone he couldn't just run his usual routine against. He really needs to develop his stand up now and give himself more options.

 

Fairly entertaining night, but my God, so much bad refereeing on one show.

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I've been reading that most people think it's a very bad decision for Lashley face Dave now. If he loses his careers shot to pieces. Then the articles following that then have Coker saying they want to set this up as a showpiece match as soon as they can...

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Jacare/Kennedy was closer than I expected.

You think so?

 

I really couldn't give Kennedy any rounds except for maybe the one where he got a major takedown. Jacare impressed the hell out of me with his standup, and made Kennedy look like he was out of his depth.

 

Jacare was never in any danger of losing that fight, whilst Kennedy never looked in it.

 

Lashley looks like one of those fighters who has all the physical tools to be a major force, but he doesn't seem to have the heart for it.

 

After getting caught with that knee to the gut and getting cut he looked as though he simply didn't want to know.

 

I don't think he'll be able to develop the mental attitude he needs to compete at the top level.

 

Gurgel got exactly what he deserved. That stupid little fucker needs to stop thinking he can stand and trade with guys who specialise in the stand-up aspect of the game.

 

A BJJ expert trying to stand with KJ Noons? Ridiculous.

 

The main event was excellent.

 

King Mo was exposed somewhat, but i'm sure he'll come back stronger. He seems like he has the right attitude and he'll improve after this loss.

 

Nice to see Feijao get the win.

 

I think we'll see Lashley against Batista now. It's the money fight for both guys, and Lashley can forget about such a fight hurting his career for the time being.

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Just watched the fight. Bobby Lashley wasnt doing anything in full mount for bout 10 seconds the ref did the right thing. Congratulations to Rico/Chad Griggs

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I thought first of all they were stopping it to check the cut, and then were gonna reset.

Don't agree with the standup at all. It's not like he's stalling in guard. He has worked to get the most dominant position. Taking 10 seconds off to suck some wind shouldn't mean they go back to their feet.

Not saying he would have won had it not happened. As people have said, he is pretty awful outside the wrestling side of it, and would likely get embarrassed by the top HW's.

 

On the subject of the knee. Can someone explain if there would be any comeback on Noons at all. There was no mention of it in the post fight address. Just curious.

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A couple of interesting articles from MMA Junkie regarding the Lashley & Gurgel fights;

 

Heading into Saturday's "Strikeforce: Houston" fight with headline-stealer Bobby Lashley, Chad Griggs knew the oddsmakers and many fans weren't given him much of a chance.

 

But as he told MMAjunkie.com soon after his eventual second-round TKO victory, he just couldn't understand why.

 

"I don't think they were thinking," he said. "They were definitely counting me out; that's for sure."

 

Griggs (9-1 MMA, 1-0 SF) turne d pro in 2005, and prior to the Strikeforce debut, scored eight knockouts in his nine career victories. He fought in some fairly major organizations, such as the IFL and Rage in the Cage, and only a couple opponent survived past the first round.

 

So why were oddmakers giving Lashley (5-1 MMA, 1-1 SF) up to a 90 percent change of winning at Houston's Toyota Center?

 

Griggs thinks it may have had something to do with the way he largely flew under the radar.

 

"I didn't want to do any talking," said Griggs, who saw Lashley, a decorated collegiate wrestler who later become a star with the WWE, quickly rise to MMA prominence over the past year. "I just wanted to let everything ride out and get in the ring and give it my all and try to prove myself in the ring. That's what I feel I was able to do."

 

Griggs ended the fight with a late-second-round flurry that left Lashley unable to answer the bell for the final round. However, the victory didn't come without controversy.

 

Just prior to that swarm of punches, Lashley had Griggs in the mount position. Griggs had opened a deep gash on his opponent's face, and the blood was covering both competitors. And though Lashley's offense had drastically slowed from HIS top position, it's virtually unheard of for a referee to stand fighters when one is in the mount position.

 

Yet, after Lashley got his cut checked out, that's exactly what happened. Rather than restart the fighters on the mat, referee Jon Schorle kept the fight standing. Griggs capitalized and got the TKO stoppage just moments later.

 

So was the restart in the standing positing warranted?

 

"A couple of people have asked me that, and yeah, I think it was," he said. "I know he was bleeding. He was bleeding all over me. It wasn't getting in my face and my eyes.

 

"I think Bobby was OK with it too. It took like

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I've seen that David has edited the thread title, and the next event is Kaufman vs Coenan. I thought that the winner of the elimination tournament i.e. Meisha Tate had the next crack at Kaufman? I really shouldn't be surprised with Strike Force's matchmaking by now, after all they have history of giving title shots to fighters who lost their last fight. At least Coenan will provide a real, and possibly biggest so far, threat to Kaufman's reign.

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I've seen that David has edited the thread title, and the next event is Kaufman vs Coenan. I thought that the winner of the elimination tournament i.e. Meisha Tate had the next crack at Kaufman?

Marloes Coenen was named as the #1 contender to Kaufman before the tournament took place. She'll be dropping down to her natural weight class of 135lbs after her loss to Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos at 145lbs.

 

Meisha Tate is next in line, and will face the winner.

 

Apparently.

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Just got round to watching it

 

King Mo losing for them is bad business, he had tons on momentum and was marketable to boot and on top of that he was one of the very few fighters that they could say is home grown and not a UFC cast of

 

Lashley before this was seen by the casual fan as a poor man

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I was on about as solely comparing him to Lesnar as a fighter

Ah, I see. I read that wrong there, sorry.

 

Lashley's main fault is his lack of heart in my opinion. He got battered in the midsection by a knee, and after that he looked a bit out of sorts.

 

After the cut, he simply looked like a beaten man.

 

As for his physical abilities, I happen to believe he's every bit as good an athlete, and every bit as powerful as Lesnar.

 

If he has no heart though, none of that shit matters one jot.

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I agree on above points id like to also add that I think condtioning and durability are skills Lashley needs to work on, the latter will be very hard to work on

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