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is there a chance that this is still all bollocks, and when this bloke popped up still shouting about said bollocks, they just thought "Well, we'll look into whats hes up to...", found out hes a bit a nutter a stuck him behind bars? Sounds sbout right to me.

 

Oh and:

 

The criminal conspiracy reaches to the very top of Scotland
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My opinion is Robert Green should have been allowed on national TV programme so the public can decide, not a handful of people on the internet. We are supposed to have free speech and justice in this country, I believe everyone has a right to be heard as a member of this society. I may not agree with the BNP but their leader has been allowed on Question Time and where he is wrong he is verbally knocked down.

 

Is Green the head of a national political party?

No, what's the relevence? I was just giving an example of someone who not everyone would agree with. What's your point? You don't have to be a leader of a political party to appear on QT. Robert did stand for MP in Aberdeen in 2010, that's how he got arrested, for attempted to give out leaflets, he hadn't even got a single leaflet out of the bag before the arrest.

 

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By the way you can quick click through here to view the leaflets Robert attempted to hand-out: Free Robert Green

 

- decide for yourself if it was right and just he be arrested. I know I've made up my mind.

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My opinion is Robert Green should have been allowed on national TV programme so the public can decide, not a handful of people on the internet. We are supposed to have free speech and justice in this country, I believe everyone has a right to be heard as a member of this society. I may not agree with the BNP but their leader has been allowed on Question Time and where he is wrong he is verbally knocked down.

 

Is Green the head of a national political party?

No, what's the relevence? I was just giving an example of someone who not everyone would agree with. What's your point? You don't have to be a leader of a political party to appear on QT. Robert did stand for MP in Aberdeen in 2010, that's how he got arrested, for attempted to give out leaflets, he hadn't even got a single leaflet out of the bag before the arrest.

 

There are people on Question Time EVERY SINGLE WEEK that the majority of the population don't agree with on the majority of their points. The reason you chose Griffin is because you just wanted to pick as controversial a person as possible to stick some more drama behind your campaign.

 

That is exactly the kind of person that you are and the kind of person you stick up for. People that have absolutely no evidence and no point at all. When it boils down to it, you have nothing. Robert Green going to jail is actually the best thing that could happen to you, Duane. You know why? Because it just adds more fuel to the fire that you're being suppressed by 'The Man'. It's something else for you to complain about and something else for you to raid your supply of Bacofoil for.

 

Let me just remind everyone of something from earlier in this thread. One of the main campaigns behind this justice for Hollie Greig nonsense openly stated that MPs that refused to back their campaign were supporters of paedophilia. This is the kind of campaign that Duane supports and backs.

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decide for yourself if it was right and just he be arrested. I know I've made up my mind.

 

Slanderous documents, which he had the intent of distributing around the general public? Yeah, I've made up my mind as well.

 

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Thank god my parents fannied around in Alnwick too long, denying me my chance to ever set foot in Scotland - I was only 11, people, and I had a chubby arse and nary even a faint fuzz about my balls. They'd have been on me like a pack of wolves the minute I was over the border.

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My opinion is Robert Green should have been allowed on national TV programme so the public can decide, not a handful of people on the internet. We are supposed to have free speech and justice in this country, I believe everyone has a right to be heard as a member of this society. I may not agree with the BNP but their leader has been allowed on Question Time and where he is wrong he is verbally knocked down.

 

Is Green the head of a national political party?

No, what's the relevence? I was just giving an example of someone who not everyone would agree with. What's your point? You don't have to be a leader of a political party to appear on QT. Robert did stand for MP in Aberdeen in 2010, that's how he got arrested, for attempted to give out leaflets, he hadn't even got a single leaflet out of the bag before the arrest.

 

There are people on Question Time EVERY SINGLE WEEK that the majority of the population don't agree with on the majority of their points. The reason you chose Griffin is because you just wanted to pick as controversial a person as possible to stick some more drama behind your campaign.

 

No not really, just first person that came to mind that most would disagree with. No other reason mate.

 

That is exactly the kind of person that you are and the kind of person you stick up for. People that have absolutely no evidence and no point at all. When it boils down to it, you have nothing. Robert Green going to jail is actually the best thing that could happen to you, Duane. You know why? Because it just adds more fuel to the fire that you're being suppressed by 'The Man'. It's something else for you to complain about and something else for you to raid your supply of Bacofoil for.

 

Let me just remind everyone of something from earlier in this thread. One of the main campaigns behind this justice for Hollie Greig nonsense openly stated that MPs that refused to back their campaign were supporters of paedophilia. This is the kind of campaign that Duane supports and backs.

I think what that campaign referred to was that those refusing to help are complicit, by allowing the cover-up to continue. The good news is gradually more MPs are taking an interest and showing support but few are brave enough to or worth our vote/taxes. That's part of the problem, the quality of our leaders doing what's best for the people.

 

By the way since this campaign are you aware of any of the MPs not willing to help being named? Because I'm not. The idea is to have people on-side and looking at this case, not create a situation of us and them. We need to have faith in our politicians as human beings, there are some good ones I believe who will do the right thing, if not straight away. The same goes for the police, judges, etc

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I think what that campaign referred to was that those refusing to help are complicit, by allowing the cover-up to continue.

 

No.

 

If the MP doesn't respond within 10 days say, send the email again and then if necessary a 3rd time. If still no response after 3 mailings, we will have to put your MP on the black-list of those who support paedophilia...

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I think what that campaign referred to was that those refusing to help are complicit, by allowing the cover-up to continue.

 

No.

 

If the MP doesn't respond within 10 days say, send the email again and then if necessary a 3rd time. If still no response after 3 mailings, we will have to put your MP on the black-list of those who support paedophilia...

OK, so where is this list of MPs who support paedophilia?

btw not saying your lying...

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I think what that campaign referred to was that those refusing to help are complicit, by allowing the cover-up to continue.

 

No.

 

If the MP doesn't respond within 10 days say, send the email again and then if necessary a 3rd time. If still no response after 3 mailings, we will have to put your MP on the black-list of those who support paedophilia...

OK, so where is this list of MPs who support paedophilia?

btw not saying your lying...

 

Do you actually have a brain? I mean, you must do because you are sat there typing this stuff, but you really have got me wondering.

 

Whether or not said list exists is IRRELEVANT. The point is that YOU are a supporter of a campaign that endorses the black-listing of members of Parliament onto a list of paedophilia supporters if they refuse to back said campaign.

 

Presumably you don't see anything wrong with this? Because that's the type of man you are.

 

You know what other type of man you are? A man who, also earlier in this thread, appealed to the parents of this forum to back this campaign in a pathetic and manipulative attempt to garner support for this campaign. Why don't you say what you REALLY mean by this, Duane? Go on.

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Congratulations, Duane. You have created a closed, unassailable system of nonsense within your brain. The MPs and other officials that won't help aren't being named... the fact that there is nothing to "help" with is of little importance in this hermetically-sealed nutcase loop, as that permits silence and a lack of actual news to be weighted as heavily as genuine activity and information. In fact, within this tinfoil clad mobius strip of mental, anything can be twisted to look like it is part of the bigger conspiracy: loony spreads slanderous, unfounded misinformation, and the hand of legal censure falls upon him accordingly? That's just money being wasted to cover up a massive conspiracy to give the great and the good of Britain's tartan topper their ten minutes on a poor, beknighted retarded girl.

 

Oh, and your little addendum about folks with Downs having better memories, maybe, possibly? Spurious, and offensive.

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That is something you directly said earlier in this thread Duane, so i'm not sure what you're getting at. There may or may not be a list of pedo MP'S, the point is you mentioned that the campaign was telling these MP'S that if they didnt get on board......they are Pedos. Which is a bit much really.

 

And in relation to a previous post of yours, my brother in law has Downs Syndrome, and although he can remember various things he likes (Various songs, books, Tv shows) that he will talk about on a constant basis other things he cannot remeber at all. He's also very suggestive. As an example, if we told him not to drink a certain drink because its bad for him......even if its water for example, he would never drink it again, until somebody told him it was ok. He also makes up / Day-Dreams various things that he will talk about alot.

 

So for what its worth, yes some stuff is reliable from any witness with Downs Syndrome, although any evidence given would have to be taken with a pintch of salt, or at least looked into in a bit more depth than say a non-downs witness.

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My point it is, even if there was a list of, no one would even know or few people at least. It's not like it's going to be published in The Sun is it? Also I don't think it is as simple as you view it, I don't think you really fully understand the idea of the campaign. Never mind, at least the campaign is starting to work, I a new MP's response on Facebook recently, who sounds serious about taking action. I'll and post the letter from the MP. Sounds really promising :)

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You've found a strawman argument well done!

That is the problem, we don't know everything here is 100% correct. That goes for a hell of a lot things too, unless you have first hand experience. It comes down to how trusted a source is and your affinity towards that contact, deciding whether to trust or not.

 

But you've not produced ANY evidence or ANY first-hand testimony by ANYBODY that can be checked or verified! For you to call anyone else's argument "straw man" is incredibly naive.

 

Every link you post just connects to 2nd-hand hearsay on websites whose validity anyone with half a brain would trust. I've been posting ACTUAL QUOTES from people who you just throw allegations around about with no evidence at all.

 

The whole thing has been covered up. That is self-evident. It's not like some of the national dailies, such as Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph for instance have covered the case and then The Sun, Guardian, Mirror etc won't touch it, it's a total blackout on the whole thing.

Neither will the BBC, Sky or Channel 4 touch it. Shows how it so controlled the media is. It's self evident, regardless of D Notice.

 

Once again, no proof. No testimony from anyone in the media supporting this. No documents showing that there was a government order. Just your belief. Just you and a bunch of faceless people on badly designed website who are all coincidentally more honest, more sane and more perceptive than everyone involved in the entire journalistic establishment. Even though the main point you've been using to claim this, the existence of a D Notice, has been utterly refuted to the point that even the Icke website accepts it, but does that make you think twice about it? Oh no!

 

For the record, once again, the quote from the BBC journalist you're talking about:

 

I have been involved in some of the biggest investigations into corruption, racism, murder and child sex abusers broadcast in the UK over the past ten years of my career, and the suggestion that I would be complicit in a cover up of important journalism is insulting and deeply misguided.
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My point it is, even if there was a list of, no one would even know or few people at least. It's not like it's going to be published in The Sun is it?

 

Oh well, that's okay then.

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