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Fair fucks to the guy, never saw that before. Thanks for that. He's gone up in my estimation. I don't think Democrats are really all that much better than Republicans, but you work with what you've got in front of you, and that tells me that Big Dave is a stand-up guy. 

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Yeah Big Dave has been great on Twitter in the past when it comes to equality and such- which just further cements the fact that he's the fucking man.

Sami Zayn is also very much left wing and a staunch Trump opposer.

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His mum is gay, I believe, and I guess that drives a lot of his support but he has tirelessly supported LGBT rights as well as constantly giving Trump a kicking.

And to think he got booed at the Royal Rumble. Twats.

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Trump has said he believes the UK is in turmoil and that Boris Johnson is "a Friend of mine" according to a sky news alert I just got. No surprises there is there. I mean he is a racist bumbling buffoon, with shit hair, who isn't fit to be in power. Just like Donald Trump.

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For once Trump is not wrong in either of his statements. Politically the UK is in turmoil, and there is no doubt that him and Boris will be friends. 

 

These Thai lads getting rescued is a blessing for May. Its knocked her problems down the pecking order of the news. 

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If you believe YouGov, all the Tory Turmoil has done is give UKIP a shot in the arm when they were pretty much dead.

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 39% (-2)
LAB: 39% (-1)
LDEM: 9% (-)
UKIP: 5% (+2)
GRN: 3% (+1)

via @YouGov, 08 - 09 Jul

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Yeah, that would be preferable at this point, I think. In previous elections, UKIP did better by bleeding Labour of votes, and none from the Tories, but this time around, with Labour's politics clearly outlined, I think UKIP's resurgence will finally come at the expense of the Tories. It just took some time for battle lines to be drawn, I guess.

That said, I also think Labour's stance on Brexit might end up being responsible for a surge in Lib Dem support, should another snap election be called.

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2 minutes ago, Carbomb said:

Yeah, that would be preferable at this point, I think. In previous elections, UKIP did better by bleeding Labour of votes, and none from the Tories, but this time around, with Labour's politics clearly outlined, I think UKIP's resurgence will finally come at the expense of the Tories. It just took some time for battle lines to be drawn, I guess.

That said, I also think Labour's stance on Brexit might end up being responsible for a surge in Lib Dem support, should another snap election be called.

Was saying the other day that this would massive IMO. Labour voters are much more fickle than their Tory counterparts. Labour voting EU supporters will quickly jump to the Lib Dems (like Lab voters did after Iraq). Tories will keep voting Tory, doesn't matter about Windrush, Grenfell, treatment of the disabled or whatever, they're far more entrenched.

The smart move would be for Labour to announce that they were happy to support the result of the referendum but with the increasing amount of evidence of foreign tampering, the face Leave EU broke campaigning laws etc then the referendum itself is spurious & they have to support repealing A50. 70% of the Labour membership support remaining, if the 'Labour heartlands' of Stoke On Trent & Sunderland etc don't like it then it's a case of fuck em', let Stoke vote for the BNP again, that worked out well for them last time.  

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22 hours ago, Carbomb said:

Anyone really surprised? Apart from (maybe) The Rock, I've yet to see any WWE wrestlers that weren't right-wing Republican or "Libertarian". Working in a McMahon-run company, you're probably going to at least end up somewhere not far from him on the political spectrum, even if you didn't start there. And JBL's not only a wrestler, and a Texan one at that, he's also an American entrepreneur, which means he's most likely somewhere slightly to the left of Genghis Khan.

I'd guess that at least among American born wrestlers on the roster past and present many of them subscribe to the principal of rugged individualism, though there's been a few that have definitely expressed opinions that would put them to the left or center of the American political spectrum. Mick Foley, Jim Cornette, Wade Barrett and Seth Rollins spring to mind. I'm not sure of Daniel Bryan's one time claim of being a socialist on NXT is the truth or just a kayfabe line at the time.

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