Mark Impact Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Does anyone know more about this? Cactus Jack working a death match in Japan whilst under contract to WWF/E? Never heard the story before. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 he worked two FMW matches while under contract with the WWF; the first was only a month after he debuted, so presumably a booking he was already announced for and WWF were happy for him to fulfill. He appeared for them in 1997 - FMW paid the WWF a considerable sum to be able to use him. Atsushi Onita met with Vince McMahon in '97 on other business, so it's possible that they were on good enough terms to sign off on a deal like that regardless. It wasn't the only example of this - FMW paid huge money to book Ken Shamrock vs. Vader later that year, and The Undertaker wrestled for Michinoku Pro in '97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Impact Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Cheers @BomberPat, that era pre dates me reading Powerslam and PWI by a couple of years so I missed this altogether. Â Great picture!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 Don’t know why I’ve never thought of this before but did Ric Flair vs Dustin Rhodes ever happen? It seems like such an obvious match, especially given Flair’s history with Dusty, but I can’t recall them ever going head to head. Am I overlooking something obvious? Closest I’ve got is a tag match from Raw in 2003 with Goldust and Booker T vs Flair and Triple H. Seems mad to me if it never happened in WCW but they weren’t both there at the same time for long in 91 before Flair left and then when he came back in 93 they were both babyfaces. Could’ve happened in 94 but I don’t recall it and Flair was tied up with Hogan for the bulk of the year. Just seems like something that could’ve really worked in terms of storyline and maybe even elevating Dustin into a main event spot. No doubt the matches themselves would’ve been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gmoney Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 Must have happened in 2000 WCW surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, gmoney said: Must have happened in 2000 WCW surely? Dustin & Dusty vs. Flair & Jarrett happened in 2000. I think that actually might be it! I always thought the best WCW story would have been Dustin joining the Horsemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 @gmoney Ah I bet it did actually. And no doubt a Russo booked 3 minute abomination. It’d be typical of WCW that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said: @gmoney Ah I bet it did actually. And no doubt a Russo booked 3 minute abomination. It’d be typical of WCW that. It was a 'Kiss My Ass' match, which resulted in an angle the following night where Dustin and Dusty forced Flair to kiss a donkey's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 Stature-wise, 1993 was probably the best opportunity but Flair was a face. Can't remember any singles matches at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chris B said: It was a 'Kiss My Ass' match, which resulted in an angle the following night where Dustin and Dusty forced Flair to kiss a donkey's ass. I think that’s a joke but when we’re talking last legs WCW and Vince Russo, I don’t know. Edit - Christ, you weren’t joking. Edited May 23, 2020 by wandshogun09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 It was... True.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Weren't WWF actually contemplating a 'Mania deathmatch with Funk and Foley at some point? I'm sure I've read that before and maybe working with Onita to help with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted May 23, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Merzbow said: Weren't WWF actually contemplating a 'Mania deathmatch with Funk and Foley at some point? I'm sure I've read that before and maybe working with Onita to help with it? Wrestlemania 14, if I remember correctly - it was in Foley's autobiography. It got changed to the Dumpster Match when they got Tyson in, as it'd be so much more extra attention and it wasn't the time for barbed wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted May 24, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted May 24, 2020 20 hours ago, Chris B said: Wrestlemania 14, if I remember correctly - it was in Foley's autobiography. It got changed to the Dumpster Match when they got Tyson in, as it'd be so much more extra attention and it wasn't the time for barbed wire. Some of the ppv providers weren't keen when rumours circulated either from what I remember, and the WWF weren't in the position to tell them to shut up and just count all the money like they would be 12 - 18 months on when issues with sponsors and providers popped up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamura Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 10:49 AM, simonworden said: Was just trying to clarify a response i'd made in the Random thoughts thread and came across this event from 2001 on Cage Match "ECW Reunion Show"- Elks Lodge 8/7/01 Singles Match Chilly Willy defeats Tom Marquez Singles Match Kid USA defeats The Mighty Finn Singles Match Nova defeats Chris Chetti (w/Elektra) Singles Match Mikey Whipwreck defeats Swinger Singles Match Balls Mahoney defeats Jack Victory Tag Team Match Danny Doring & Roadkill defeat The FBI (Guido Maritato & Tony Mamaluke) Singles Match Sabu (w/Bill Alfonso) defeats Angel Singles Match Tommy Dreamer (w/Francine) defeats CW Anderson (w/Lou E. Dangerously)  Anyone got any info on this as it seems like it was a a good chunk of the final ECW roster that wasn't signed to WWE (and Dreamer), mostly curious if it was an ECW booked event that someone on the card took over. You should be able to pick up a copy of the show easily enough. Back in the day most people seemed to title it "A Reunion of Stars", RF Video have it for sale now on their site with the title "ECW Reunion 7/8/01 Buffalo, NY". Or if you don't feel like giving Feinstein your money it's available to download on a certain wrestling torrent website. It's been a long time since I've watched it so I can't remember much about the show itself, I don't remember it being essential viewing or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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