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  1. You've found a strawman argument well done!

    That is the problem, we don't know everything here is 100% correct. That goes for a hell of a lot things too, unless you have first hand experience. It comes down to how trusted a source is and your affinity towards that contact, deciding whether to trust or not.

     

    But you've not produced ANY evidence or ANY first-hand testimony by ANYBODY that can be checked or verified! For you to call anyone else's argument "straw man" is incredibly naive.

     

    Every link you post just connects to 2nd-hand hearsay on websites whose validity anyone with half a brain would trust. I've been posting ACTUAL QUOTES from people who you just throw allegations around about with no evidence at all.

     

    The whole thing has been covered up. That is self-evident. It's not like some of the national dailies, such as Daily Mail, Express, Telegraph for instance have covered the case and then The Sun, Guardian, Mirror etc won't touch it, it's a total blackout on the whole thing.

    Neither will the BBC, Sky or Channel 4 touch it. Shows how it so controlled the media is. It's self evident, regardless of D Notice.

     

    Once again, no proof. No testimony from anyone in the media supporting this. No documents showing that there was a government order. Just your belief. Just you and a bunch of faceless people on badly designed website who are all coincidentally more honest, more sane and more perceptive than everyone involved in the entire journalistic establishment. Even though the main point you've been using to claim this, the existence of a D Notice, has been utterly refuted to the point that even the Icke website accepts it, but does that make you think twice about it? Oh no!

     

    For the record, once again, the quote from the BBC journalist you're talking about:

     

    I have been involved in some of the biggest investigations into corruption, racism, murder and child sex abusers broadcast in the UK over the past ten years of my career, and the suggestion that I would be complicit in a cover up of important journalism is insulting and deeply misguided.
  2. My point it is, even if there was a list of, no one would even know or few people at least. It's not like it's going to be published in The Sun is it? Also I don't think it is as simple as you view it, I don't think you really fully understand the idea of the campaign. Never mind, at least the campaign is starting to work, I a new MP's response on Facebook recently, who sounds serious about taking action. I'll and post the letter from the MP. Sounds really promising :)

  3. I think what that campaign referred to was that those refusing to help are complicit, by allowing the cover-up to continue.

     

    No.

     

    If the MP doesn't respond within 10 days say, send the email again and then if necessary a 3rd time. If still no response after 3 mailings, we will have to put your MP on the black-list of those who support paedophilia...

    OK, so where is this list of MPs who support paedophilia?

    btw not saying your lying...

  4. My opinion is Robert Green should have been allowed on national TV programme so the public can decide, not a handful of people on the internet. We are supposed to have free speech and justice in this country, I believe everyone has a right to be heard as a member of this society. I may not agree with the BNP but their leader has been allowed on Question Time and where he is wrong he is verbally knocked down.

     

    Is Green the head of a national political party?

    No, what's the relevence? I was just giving an example of someone who not everyone would agree with. What's your point? You don't have to be a leader of a political party to appear on QT. Robert did stand for MP in Aberdeen in 2010, that's how he got arrested, for attempted to give out leaflets, he hadn't even got a single leaflet out of the bag before the arrest.

     

    There are people on Question Time EVERY SINGLE WEEK that the majority of the population don't agree with on the majority of their points. The reason you chose Griffin is because you just wanted to pick as controversial a person as possible to stick some more drama behind your campaign.

     

    No not really, just first person that came to mind that most would disagree with. No other reason mate.

     

    That is exactly the kind of person that you are and the kind of person you stick up for. People that have absolutely no evidence and no point at all. When it boils down to it, you have nothing. Robert Green going to jail is actually the best thing that could happen to you, Duane. You know why? Because it just adds more fuel to the fire that you're being suppressed by 'The Man'. It's something else for you to complain about and something else for you to raid your supply of Bacofoil for.

     

    Let me just remind everyone of something from earlier in this thread. One of the main campaigns behind this justice for Hollie Greig nonsense openly stated that MPs that refused to back their campaign were supporters of paedophilia. This is the kind of campaign that Duane supports and backs.

    I think what that campaign referred to was that those refusing to help are complicit, by allowing the cover-up to continue. The good news is gradually more MPs are taking an interest and showing support but few are brave enough to or worth our vote/taxes. That's part of the problem, the quality of our leaders doing what's best for the people.

     

    By the way since this campaign are you aware of any of the MPs not willing to help being named? Because I'm not. The idea is to have people on-side and looking at this case, not create a situation of us and them. We need to have faith in our politicians as human beings, there are some good ones I believe who will do the right thing, if not straight away. The same goes for the police, judges, etc

  5. My opinion is Robert Green should have been allowed on national TV programme so the public can decide, not a handful of people on the internet. We are supposed to have free speech and justice in this country, I believe everyone has a right to be heard as a member of this society. I may not agree with the BNP but their leader has been allowed on Question Time and where he is wrong he is verbally knocked down.

     

    Is Green the head of a national political party?

    No, what's the relevence? I was just giving an example of someone who not everyone would agree with. What's your point? You don't have to be a leader of a political party to appear on QT. Robert did stand for MP in Aberdeen in 2010, that's how he got arrested, for attempted to give out leaflets, he hadn't even got a single leaflet out of the bag before the arrest.

     

    EDIT:

     

    By the way you can quick click through here to view the leaflets Robert attempted to hand-out: Free Robert Green

     

    - decide for yourself if it was right and just he be arrested. I know I've made up my mind.

  6. From UKColumn:

     

    Robert Green Convicted In Court With No Jury

     

     

    Scotland Proves Itself To Be Paedophile Capital Of The World

     

     

    On Tuesday, 24th January in Stonehaven Court, Scotland, Robert Green was found guilty of Breach of the Peace, and breaking some of his bail conditions. Three other charges were dropped.

     

    Article | January 25, 2012 - 11:54pm

     

     

     

     

    Barely reported in the mainstream press, this man has been found guilty of

  7. Learning more about Elish Angelioni, the former Lord Advocate, now a Dame and that she has put a D Notice on Hollie and Anne's case.

     

    This wasn't true when you claimed it about a year ago, and it's no more true now.

     

    Not only isn't it true, it couldn't be true as Ms Angeloni can't issue DA-Notices (their actual name). In fact, look here - a response to a tinfoiler by the one man who CAN issue D Notices, Air Vice-Marshal Vallance, in reply to a tin-foiler who actually had enough house to try and find out some facts:

     

    Dear Mr Metcalfe,

     

    Thank you for your e-mail.

     

    Let me assure you that no Defence Advisory guidance has been issued on the case of Hollie Greig, nor will it be. The DA Notice System covers only the core national security issues defined in the five Standing DA Notices. These are of course purely advisory and are not supported by any form of sanction, legal or otherwise; advice offered under them can be accepted or ejected in whole or in part. For full details see www.dnotice.org.uk.

     

    The case of Hollie Greig falls far outside the DA Notice System guidelines. and whether or not certain people are treating this case as a 'no-go area' it is certainly not because of any DA Notice concerns.

     

    Sincerely,

     

    Andrew Vallance

    Air Vice-Marshal

    Secretary, Defence Press and Broadcasting Advisory Committee

    Office: 0207 218 2206

    Mobile: 07768 433005

    Home: 01344 874412

     

    From the most reputable source I could find for you, Duane:

     

    http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=...p;postcount=840

     

    Look, there's his office telephone number. Why don't you ring it and confirm this for yourself. Go on - do some actual investigation rather than relying on 4th hand information. I dare you.

     

    EDIT: the poor chap has obviously had more than one enquiry about this, as evidenced by the testy reply to this bakerfoiler:

     

    I wish to make it clear that there is absolutely no truth in the statement repeated in your e-mail below that the
  8. I looked at information Loki pm'd me and evaluated it for myself and stepped back for a while. Since then I've discovered more and to this story regards the coverup by the Scottish judiciary.

     

    "discovered more"

     

    THE SAME OLD WACKY NONSENSE

     

    "I convinced myself into believing a new lie, because that's easier to deal with than accepting I was wrong, and wasted a bunch of time being such."

     

    In one paragraph or less - WITH NO LINKS OR VIDEOS - explain what this 'more' you discovered consisted of.

     

    OK, fair enough. I guess if I post videos etc not everyone view it. The reason I tend to post links is for others to look and decide for themselves, guess I need to give a reason for others take look.

    Point taken and accepted :)

     

    Learning more about Elish Angelioni, the former Lord Advocate, now a Dame and that she has put a D Notice on Hollie and Anne's case. Preventing the story being reporting in the media. D Notice's are only applied usually in the defence of the realm. This to me is an abuse of power. None of Hollie's alleged abusers including her father Roy Mackie have ever been interviewed. The fact that Robert Green has been imprisoned to shut him and Anne and Hollie continue to appeal against Shropshire authorities wanting to take Hollie away from her mother.

  9. The new bit since Robert Green being imprisoned was Anne and Hollie Greig appealing at the Royal Courts of Justice, London to stop Hollie being taken from her mother Anne, by the Shropshire authorities.

     

     

     

    HOLLIE GREIG AND THE CORRUPT UK ESTABLISHMENT PRESS

    http://youtu.be/ZEd24gYVvpk

     

    Robert Green radio interview from prison plus Anne Greig interviewed too.

     

    More schizo-spam.

     

    Contribute something more than (ridiculous babyish) links, or you're set for another lengthy holiday.

     

    What's hilarious is you actually seemed to go back on this whole thing a while back, and were finally thinking it was probably all nonsense. I guess the fantasy world is more fun for you.

     

    I looked at information Loki pm'd me and evaluated it for myself and stepped back for a while. Since then I've discovered more and to this story regards the coverup by the Scottish judiciary.

  10. Anyone on here see the feature on David Icke in the Sun on Friday? Saw it mentioned on FB.

     

    From the Sun:

     

    Get on yer bike, David Icke

     

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/featu...David-Icke.html

     

    The Lizard shapeshifters is the typical strawman here to discredit him. It's basically stuff that can't be proven. When you check out his talks and books, David (not Icke) has previously stated in his opinion it's well researched, referenced work until you get upto the alien/lizard men.

  11. Fair enough aaron. Could you please give me a succinct definition of what a corporation is?

    World English Dictionary

    corporation

     

    — n

    1. a group of people authorized by law to act as a legal personality and having its own powers, duties, and liabilities

    2. Also called: municipal corporation the municipal authorities of a city or town

    3. a group of people acting as one body

    4. See public corporation

    5. informal a large paunch or belly

     

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/corporation

     

    Easy :thumbsup: See, Loki and all the other haters could of done it themselves! Simples :p

     

    Pick which one applies and you've got it!

    Makes me laugh how it's such a playground mentality on here at times :rolleyes:

  12. Very likely

    It'd be a mistake at the moment, overstreched as it is, but Iran is close to developing nuclear weaponry & they do seem the type of chaps who seem like they would use them too

    Unlike the USA of course.

     

    I hope Iran do develop nuclear weapons. They'll need something to deter the inevitable "liberation" by the usual suspects.

    I'm curious to see if Russia and China would stand by and let Iran be attacked by NATO / USA. There seems to be another Cold War brewing right now with Russia building up defences, due to location of US missiles pointing east in a former soviet country (can't remember name of country, I'll post link from RT when I find it).

     

    EDIT:

     

    This is the news item:

     

    The military measures outlined by President Dmitry Medvedev in response to America’s controversial missile defense system in Europe will be taken within Russia's borders, according to senior Russian MP Konstantin Kosachev.

    “All the announced measures are being and will be taken by the Russian Federation within its national borders,” he said, adding that it is Russia's sovereign right. “Unlike the USA and its NATO allies, we are not going beyond these bounds,” Kosachev, the chairman of the State Duma Committee on Foreign Affairs, told a media conference.

    The foreign policy architect added that the actions listed by Medvedev, including Russia's possible withdrawal from the New START treaty, do not violate the country's international obligations. He pointed out that the document provides for such a withdrawal and the president had “only reminded about this possibility” and noted that Russia may use it under certain circumstances.

    According to Kosachev, the president's statement amounts to a coercive measure. However, he emphasized that to the last, Moscow had tried to avoid a situation where such measures were necessary. Russia urged its American partners to find a compromise on missile defense “when we still had an opportunity to come to an agreement in the sphere of strategic stability.” The Russian side had put forward quite a few options, but Washington declined them all.

    The measures outlined by Medvedev came in response to actions by the US, which is deploying its missile defense shield in close proximity to Russia's border. If Moscow's measures have their intended effect and are properly understood, “our partners on strategic stability will always have an opportunity to respond, correct their actions” and make sure that further steps are not taken. Kosachev stressed that, in contrast to NATO, Russia's activities are fully transparent.

    The lawmaker pointed out that Moscow is still ready for a dialogue on the matter and is interested in coming to a compromise rather then entering a situation of confrontation or, even worse, launching a new arms race.

    Kosachev underlined that Russia does not intend to wind up the “reset” process and block strategic co-operation with the US.

    “Tango is a dance for two and there is no intention from the Russian side to bring the 'reset' to a close,” he said.

    Medvedev's statement was made shortly after his meeting with US President Barack Obama at the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation summit in Honolulu. According to Kosachev, it is likely that the talks influenced Russia's stance in any way.

    An agreement on building the missile defense shield near Russia’s western border may be reached at the NATO summit in Chicago next May. Kosachev warned that this would be “a point of no return, a deadlock situation which would require that measures our president spoke about be taken.”

    On Wednesday, Dmitry Medvedev addressed the nation, saying that Russia was no longer prepared to wait for permission to participate in the European missile defense project. Instead, it would take defensive and offensive initiatives to protect its people and sovereignty.

     

     

    Misslile defense: no border breaking - includes video.

  13. UK and U.S. 'draw up joint plan to attack Iran': Evidence of nuclear programme raises tension in Middle East

     

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...l#ixzz1eY9c2tb4

    Whitehall figures say Iran is 'newly aggressive - and we are not sure why'

    Iran 'has enough enriched uranium for four nuclear weapons'

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pushing for invasion

    Tel Aviv test-fires rockets capable of carrying nuclear warheads into Iran

    Report reveals China continues to supply Tehran with missiles and other conventional weapons

    Obama says nuclear programme remains a threat and calls on Iran to reveal its intentions

     

     

    The UK and U.S. are drawing up plans to attack Iran amid growing tensions in the Middle East, it was claimed last night.

    Barack Obama and David Cameron are preparing for war after reports that Iran now has enough enriched uranium for four nuclear weapons.

    President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

  14. Bush, Blair found guilty of war crimes

     

    A War Crimes Tribunal in Malaysia has found former US President George W. Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair guilty of war crimes for their roles in the Iraq war, Press TV reports.

     

     

    The five-panel Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal decided that Bush and Blair committed genocide and crimes against humanity by leading the invasion of Iraq in 2003, a Press TV correspondent reported on Tuesday.

     

    In 2003, the US and Britain invaded Iraq in blatant violation of international law and under the pretext of finding weapons of mass destruction allegedly stockpiled by former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

     

    The Malaysian tribunal judges ruled that the decision to wage war against Iraq by the two former heads of government was a flagrant abuse of law and an act of aggression that led to large-scale massacres of the Iraqi people.

     

     

    Bombings and other forms of violence became commonplace in Iraq shortly after the US-led invasion of the country.

     

    In their ruling, the tribunal judges also stated that the US, under the leadership of Bush, fabricated documents to make it appear that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction.

     

    However, the world later learned that the former Iraqi regime did not possess WMDs and that the US and British leaders knew this all along.

     

    Over one million Iraqis were killed during the invasion, according to the California-based investigative organization Project Censored.

     

    The judges also said the court findings should be provided to signatories to the Rome Statute, which established the International Criminal Court, and added that the names of Bush and Blair should be listed on a war crimes register.

     

    MAB/HGL

     

    From Press TV

     

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211590.html

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