JamesTyler

I watched GI JOE the other night, and despite it being way too long and having lots of unintentional humour, I had a lot of fun. I personally don't feel the need to take a film to task that's as gloriously silly as this. Joseph-Gordon Levitt was ridiculous fun and if they are planning on recasting The Joker for the next Batman movie, I'd put him up there as a frontrunner.

 

Is that the same Joesph-Gordon Levitt from Third Rock from the Sun? I must watch this film if it is.

 

He's also in Ten Things I Hate About You (which is fun), and Brick (which is great).

Ten Things I Hate ABout You is a guilty pleasure of mine... probably the only teen romcom I can actually enjoy. Thoug Tommy from Third Rock being the Joker... that'd take some adjusting to if it ever happened.

Normally I'd say that you were wrong and that everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the merits of different movies but to slate NCFOM and then give a big thumbs up to PB:MC takes some beating in the stupid stakes.

Not really. Some films I own are masterpieces of cinema that I love to watch. I've watched Superbad more often though as it's fun.

Catching up on Buffy lately...

...I quite liked the comedic aspect and silly elements of the show back in the day, but went off it with the whole militarised aspect on season 3/4(?). I started watching again as my GF was up to mid-season five of her DVD sets. I wasn't thrilled with that season, it seemed a bit drawn out, but when season six started it became a lot more entertaining.

The first half of the season had a dark element to Buffy's ressurection and the first few episodes were a bit of a chore to watch, but it picked up with the second disc. Episodes seemed to have weak endings, and plots with no real point to them, but the humour held it all together. The musical was less cringeworthy than I thought it would be and ended up being quite fun, as was an episode where they all lost their memories - with Spike assuming he was the unloved son of Giles. Once the comedy hooked me in the season seemed to get darker when Giles left, Willow became a magic junkie and one of the cast got killed leading to one of Buffy's group being the villian at the end which was a nice change of pace.

I've started off on Season 6 and already I'm liking the development of Spike being insane... which is the source of small comedy elements which I'm all for

It's all a bit upsetting as Joss Whedon comes off as a bit of a cock... even more upsetting that I liked Serenity and am now dipping into Firefly via my LoveFilm subscription and liked the first three episodes on disc one.

So now I need to finish the last season of Buffy, wait for the rest of Firefly to come through then I have my bargain of the week to watch. Four classic Doctor Who DVD's (which together cost a grand total of

Equilibrium.

A lot of people told me it was a Matrix rip off, which put me off. After watching the film last night those people are complete morons.

I quite liked the idea of a society drugging themselves to be Vulcans. Oddly that thought was enhanced in a line that mirrored Spocks re-training in ST4. It was nothing like I thought it would be, fight sequences kept to a minimum, interesting plot, Sharpe and Kevin Hill sharing the screen with Batman. Good stuff. Two good twists at the end and Bale seemed quite good in the role of withdrawing from the drug and opening himself up to his feelings.

Parts of the end were a bit predictable, though overall I enjoyed it and was pleasantly surprised.

Finally got round to watching the BSG mini-series/pilot after my GF bought it from Play.

I wasn't sure why it had such a fanbase. Now I am. I can see a lot of Ron Moore's favourie parts of DS9 in there. Much like that show there's no one lead character and they aren't perfect heroes. I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of the show now, so job done

We watched Borat afterwards. Probably not a good move as we were burned out from BSG. Funny in places, didn't motivate me enough to want to see Bruno though.

Never before have so many people worked so hard and spent so much money to make something so crappy and cheap looking.

Paris Hiltons stylist and publicist springs to mind.

I'm so stunned by that I may have to give Nick & Norah a chance.

Some day I'm going to be JJ Abrams and I'm going to create two new Star Trek series: Star Trek: Academy (a/k/a DS90210) and Star Trek: Outpost (Deadwood In Space). They're gonna be awesome.

I've got dibs on new series ideas. And they shall remain secret... as they already nicked an essay I wrote for school and called it Voyager

Academy was a rumoured series many moons back, oddly enough.

I disagree with you a lot Kenny But I've said why earlier in the thread, so I won't repeat myself. I'll just say the franchise was dead on it's arse, JJ wanted to make a story that introduced the casual audience (and himself) to the ST world an the best way to do that is go back to basics. The story made sue to appease the old fans too.

Plus... ST fans know Kirk dies on Veridian III, we know McCoy lives to a ripe old age and see's off the Enterprise D, Scotty gets stuck in a transporter buffer until the mid-late 24th century, Spock goes onto try to unify Romulus and Vulcan... and of course we know all the adventures the crew will take from the first three seasons and six movies.

Thats one hell of a restriction.

Will Ferrell in particular is brilliant - there's a hilarious bit where he just runs across a room. There's no gag or subtext, he just runs across, but he does it in such a way that you can't help but chuckle. It's one of the silliest bits of humour I've ever seen.

YES! I know exactly wha you mean, the girly run towards the display model.

I wouldn't say it's the funniest film in the world, but it got a few cheap laughs from me.

The Doctor Who TV Movie with Paul McGann.

It's actually not too bad a film, well not as bad as hardcore Whovians make it out to be. An interview with the director from 2001 also sheds some light on it's weaker spots though his commentary over the film is dreadful.

Loved Paul McGann in the role, always loved that TARDIS set and if you just shut off the inner geek it's not too bad.

It was M Night Shymalan, not Gibson who directed - you can tell by the big twist that's in every Shymalan film.

 

It's not really very good, is it? I still like 6th Sense, Unbreakable and The Village, but the rest of his stuff is derivative.

I like Unbreakable, probably due to the comic book elements, though the Village and Sixth Sense didn't make me want to watch them again. I have Signs on DVD, it's the only one of his films I've purchased, I do like it but the ending is pretty flat. The tone of the comedy appeals to me which is about it...

Watched The Wrestler again and it remains a highly depressing film. Good though. Introduced my girlfriend to Spaced and Indy 4. She liked Indy 4 more than she thought she would, I showed her Spaced as she recently became a fan of Simon Pegg... I don't think she enjoyed it as much as I did but there were a few laugh out loud moments for her. Leaves me happy.

Got around to Indy 4.

Ok... so a lot of people were on about the aliens angle making it pish when it was released. The way it was presented, it wasn't much different from the previous film which is probably still my favourite of the bunch despite having a religious basis which I have much less faith in than the possibility of Aliens.

It was nice to see the idea of them passing the torch (despite there likely never being a 5th), a few callbacks, pointing out that he's much older now and more James Bondish nods. Oh, and a Janitor in the FBI. The fridge thing was the only part that really made me cringe, though considering that was one of the initial concepts for BTTF it was a little bit amusing.

I was hoping for more fleshed out villians, but it was alright. Not as bad as I was expecting given the shite reviews.

I've not got Spaced series one to rewatch,

Nor have I.

Sun + Sleep deprivation = typo

Ended up putting it on last night. I'm determined to show it to a recent new fan of Simon Pegg's to convert her to my taste.

Ark of truth is dissapointing if your a Gatey

I watched way back when it was on Sky 1 and quite liked it then, thought of it as the superior of the two when I watched Continuum, but as it's the plans for season 11 packed into a single DVD you can see where they could have packed more in/stretched it out. For a new fan it's also very inaccessible. If someone wanted to check out Stargate and see what the fuss was about, maybe start small instead of a season, they'd be fucked if this is what they picked up.

And like with most latter SG1 stuff - needs more Vala.

A Clockwork Orange: I remembered seeing a bit of this years ago and just thinking it was weird, but I've been enjoying weird films recently so I bought a copy. Great film, still very very weird but in a British way. I love the odd have russian half slang that the main characters use. I really want to get a copy of Brazil now, but they didn't have it in HMV.

Good film... I might give it a watch again soon.

I watched Finding Nemo at the weekend as well as Night at the Museum through the week seeing as theres now a sequel. Agree with the gentle comedy aspect, though I did get distracted with so many faces from so many places.

I've not got Spaced series one to rewatch, the last Indiana Jones film to see if it's really as bad as people say (I never paid for it, so it's all good either way), the Wrestler on DVD to rewatch and Stargate's Ark of Truth which I got from LoveFilm a week ago and haven't had time to see yet.

I shall have an entertaining few days.

There's a rather interesting, alternative viewpoint on Terminator: Salvation's significance in the current political climate:

 

www.celluloidmachiavelli.co.uk/termsalv

Hmm.. Interesting and quite deep insight into the film. Hope restored a little.

Also Harry Knowles can't really be trusted. He's a fucking idiot.

 

Isn't he the one Seven described as "poison"?

Now theres an insult

Aint it Cool has a review up - http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40999

It's very spoilery though as it lays out the story, but from the sound of it the movies not too bad. It doesn't sound great, but it doesn't sound like T3.

What's wrong with Treknobabble? For me, it's part of what made Star Trek what it is. You see CSI and 24 discussing technology specifics all the time, so it would make sense for Star Trek to have its own, and, of course, most of this would be beyond the ken of the average person today.

 

Sure, they tend to overload a little, but come on: all the series and movies are set on board ships or space stations, which are the realms of aeronautics and astrophysics. It's not unrealistic. How many times have you wanted to throttle a computer engineer for talking about stuff you just can't get a handle on (unless you are a computer engineer, in which case, come over here - I want to throttle you).

I'm thankfully not a computer engineer, they upset me deeply for that reason

The Treknobabble has been good - but it was good to be without it. Might be a geek thing - not a bad thing, I am one - but it's good to a point where it's overused and a bit silly. Voyager was also guilty for the reset button thing which I was glad to see was avoided at all costs in this movie. Things got screwed up, alternate universe evolved and there was no attempt to set things to the 'Prime' time line. Good stuff.

The link that Evolution posted actually addressed all of the complaints I had about the film in a way that I was unable to articulate, as I said previously I did really enjoy the film and would urge everyone to see it but as a longtime fan of the franchise some of the errors stood out like sore thumbs. Fortunately the action and the comedy were so good that I can overlook even the most heinous of mistakes.

 

Did anyone else think that this newly revamped Star Trek was clearly comprised of the better aspects of Firefly, Battlestar Galactica and Star Wars and injected into the Star Trek Universe?

I thought that link would - the guy who wrote that review had the same thought as me (and yourself), it didn't get in the way of the film that, for example, the plot holes in Generations (the Nexus stuff... forgivable in a way, but Harrimans uselessness. No.)

I can't comment on the comparisons (Not seen much Firefly, just Serenity, havent got round to BSG yet and not a fan of Star Wars) but to me they have just injected fresh energy in a group that we remember as being old and bloated.

Oh.. and the line in the blacked out spoiler - great delivery and although this Scotty was a bit different I thought Pegg did a nice job in the role. Some Scots have been iffy about his accent but it still sounds more genuine than mine.

Dumber things have happened in sci-fi, in regular "earth-based" movies, in the Trek franchise itself and, indeed, in the movie called

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The Black Hole

 

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On another note, I'm really glad to see this movie keeps gathering fans. It's my favourite movie so far this year.

Seconded on both accounts. As for te lack of technobabble... thank fucking christ for that! The technobabble nonsense was part of the reason I started to loathe Voyager and in DS9 (my favourite of the lot) having to explain to the audience always seemed patronizing as fuck.

The black hole stuff was reasonable in it's context, though if you want more - http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/09/bad-astron...ence-star-trek/

On the spoilers...

I haven't seen anything other than the release versions of any Aliens film. I will have to investigate this...

As for todays movie experience - I watched Iron Man with a hangover. I kept staring at Jeff Bridges wondering if he was Jesse Ventura (could have something to do with the hangover) and quite like Downey's performance and some little comedy moments but overall it was alright. Nothing special. But good hangover movie.

There's not much I can say about Star Trek that hasn't already been said but does anyone else think that a few of the big events in the film lacked some impact? Given the gravity of what's in the spoilers, the movie didn't really make me emote with it in a way I would expect.

 

Edit: Pun unintentional. Although I kinda wish it had been.

A few fans have said that on TrekBBS - but I think it was needed for the pace. There could be a tonne of arguments for it, such as being trained to focus on eliminating the threat and the rest comes later, but there are some scenes in there that work tat angle for me. The biggest of which s a spoiler and a half, so I'll say nothing more.

There was also a lot of stuff cut to keep the pace alive and as they were distracting from the main plot. I only know little bits of what was cut (such as Nero in those 25 years and Spocks birth - both of which were in the trailers), so no idea if there was an intention to show more on that.

Theres also the gap between the fans and the general audience - big event to the fans, but the general audience wouldn't care as much.

Added some discussion to your spoiler. Really don't look if you haven't seen it yet!

And more on that Though again - if you haven't seen it, spoilers ahoy!

Toss up between Wolverine & Watchmen for biggest turkey.

 

I could understand if you said they were both equally disappointing, but Wolverine is definitely the worse film of the two..

I don't know. Wolverine seemed far more watchable (not great, not shit), which was pretty much what I expected. It's like watching Friends, you can put your feet up and fill some time but know you won't get too excited.

I'm sure people wont like it, thats fine. You can just tell when people come on forums and talk shit about films just because a lot of others like it though.

Indeed. Though I don't mind that as much as the few who will come onto any forum to go OTT on bashing anyone and everyone who liked a film they didn't, especially when the insults start flying for no reason.

Star Trek rocks. One thing that completely shocked me, the trailer gave no indication of what to expect, was how funny it was. Seriously funny in places. I've seen 'comedy' films which don't have a single scene as funny as Kirk with the big hands.

When I read abut that, I cringed. Seeing it... fucktonnes better than I expected. Just what was needed though - the later Trek took itself a bit too seriously. Or in the case of Enterprise both the humour and the attempts at something sexy always seemed like they were written by the types you'd see in the Big Bang Theory. It was a nice surprise... especially little moments and lines I won't spoil.

The other thing (the geeky thing) I noticed was the attention to detail on little things, callbacks to previous films and episodes. Not like "Ar eyou out of your Vulcan mind?" but apple thing mirroring Kirk in the Genesis cave.

yeh, the humor is really good in the film. I couldn't really get used to Simon Pegg's Scottie, cause i was kinda destracted by his attempt at a Scottish accent. But the Kirk/Spock interraction was great, witty stuff.

 

Quinto as Spock was fucking brilliant, that guy was born to play the character.

With Pegg... I was apprehensive (as I was with Urban) but the accent was spot on. He says Scottish slang better than I do and I was born and raised here. Quinto was good - but I was really surprised by Pine and Urban. One I'd barley heard of, the other was (to me) that guy from Doom. Both really surprised me.

After two viewings.... I don't know what film I'm in the mood to see next

Quesiton. I want to take my brother to see Star Trek. If I go on a wednesdaty and use the Orange Wednesdays offer can I use my Unlimited Card as the paid ticket? I've heard you can but don't want to go and look like a tool.

I have no idea to be honest, but it sounds unlikely.

The best thing to do is ask. You won't look like a tool, just a chancer If not it's just like your brother paying in while you use unlimited anyway.