HBAndy Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Question for the ROH faithful: On the DVD opening montage there is footage of an outdoor show. When/where was this show and was it released on DVD?Thanks in advance.That was the Generation Next show that was outdoors, they had a big marquee to wrestle under after a problem at the arena they booked.And it was In Your Face I got...But anways, just finished Homicide vs. Hero and it's one of my favourite ROH shows of the year so far. Fun matches, hot crowd, great feuds and strong, hot storylines.I'll attempt a proper review later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCD Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 No he's onabout the clip of Aries doing a 450 on Azreil in the ring on a high street which is from the clips from the newsreport on The Future Is Now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBAndy Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Before I post, I don't do play-by-play when I review matches...Just finished watching In Your Face and it's now one of my favourite ROH shows ever, it was so much fun from start to finish...The Briscoes vs. Sterling James Keenan & Jason BladeThis is the perfect way to begin this show, the crowd is super hot and want to get things underway at a fast and furious pace and if there's one tag team in America who can go at that pace and get the crowd going it's The Briscoes. Keenan and Blade have essentially no chance here and it's a bit of a squash with the Briscoes absolutely destroying their opponents in suitable head-dropping, face kicking fashion. This New York crowd is loving it. Short match but fun all the way...**1/2Jimmy Rave vs. Davey RichardsAfter calling dibs on Davey Richards his PWG matches are brilliant and this is his second appearance in ROH and his second ROH match vs. Rave, and Richards picked up the win in the first one. Rave comes out first and the most entertaining thing in wrestling (the TP shower) begins, gorgeous stuff. They actually break shards of glass off the chandelier on the roof from the TP shower. This was a really fun match, Rave works the heel style to perfection and controlled the match with Richards using his explosiveness and hard strikes and powerups at the right time. I like this pairing and Richards picks up the win out of turning a roll up into a submission and getting Rave to tap out quickly. The NYC crowd seemed to warm to the newcomer Richards, whilst both men leave the ring with shards of glass in their back. Nasty stuff... ***Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. Cabana & NigelAries and Strong are a brilliant tag team and Cabana and Nigel also make for suitable partners. I liked the story in this match with the tag champions facing the pure champion, it adds credibility to both belts and furthers the "Best Champion in ROH" thing that ROH are currently going with. This was decent stuff, but I expected more, strangely Cabana and Nigel controlled the match working over Aries for the majority of the match, and there was also a lack of chemistry in Nigel and Cabana, it should be the more experienced tag team controlling a match like this. That's how it would work in my head anyway. Still Strong gets the hot tag and destroys Cabana and Nigel and Strong and Aries pick up the win after a hot finish...***1/4Jimmy Jacobs vs. BJ WhitmerA nice feud is building here after this tag team won the belts in the same building a year ago and now they have disbanded with Jacobs falling in love with Lacey and Lacey's Angels finishing. Jimmy's entrance is superb and Whitmer's improving so rapidly in ROH it looks like their 2003 push they were so desperate to give him is finally paying off. I liked the chemistry both guys had during this match, Jimmy playing the folorn lover and BJ beating the crap out of the littler guy, it showed why their mis-mash tag team worked so well. The finish to the match was something to see, BJ powerbombing Jacobs from the top rope to the outside to a bunch of "fans" this caused me to freak out and was a great spectacle for the live crowd. The match was going very nicely and then the finish pushed it over the top, no finish but...***1/2Notice how each match is building ever so nicely...Mitch Franklin vs. Shane HagadornSkip this match and keep the great flow of the show going, this shouldn't be on the show.Claudio Castignoli vs. Adam PearceA short match between two guys who are impressing me so much in ROH. Pearce worked this match as a brawl (his strength) and beat Claudio all round ringside, much to the delight of the New York crowd, Claudio didn't get much in on this match, yet still worked in a good little bout. Didn't go long and was another no finish (I think), but it did lead to the next match which I adored...this gets **....Homicide vs. Chris HeroHomicide is in his home town of NYC and in his home of ROH and is pissed as Chris Hero trys to interfere in an earlier match, he calls out Hero and out comes the CZW invader. They start out with the brawling which goes all round the outside of the cramped arena and back into the ring, they are both lighting each other up. Then as the match progresses Hero starts to gain the upper hand on Homicide, using the cravate to expert affect, but Homicide has those burst of energy and the crowd is super red hot for this match and Homicides power-ups. Somehow Homicide gets powerbombed through a table, but manages to kick out and he keeps kicking out of everything Hero is doing, Homcide comes back and destroys Hero with a lariat 1-2-3. It's over. The place goes nuts, I fucking love Homicide and Hero is an awesome heel. Loved this match...****1/4KENTA vs. Bryan Danielson vs. Samoa Joe - Non TitleThis was a brutal, brutal match. KENTA got knocked out from a Samoa Joe slap and was useless for the first half of the match, then Joe fucked his knee up and was useless for the second half of the match. Danielson had to hold it together but HE fucked his knee up too. This was a really fun spot fest 3-way. It was super entertaining, just 3 guys hitting the crap out of each other for about 25 minutes. I was into it all the way, as was the crowd. KENTA got the win after a Go 2 Sleep on Danielson, all the wrestlers are fucked but this match was entertaining as hell. Not a classic, but just good fun...****1/4All in all, one of my favourite ROH shows for fun matches, hot crowds and hot feuds. This should be in everyone's collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIB Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Right, this is going to be a relatively short review.ROH - Final Battle 2005 - 17/12/2005 - Edison, NJSo, we've reached possibly ROH's biggest show of the year, and as 2005 draws to a close will Final Battle live up the hype? Let's see...Match 1 - Milano Collection AT vs. Jimmy RaveWhen there is Jimmy Rave, there is Prince Nana, when there is Prince Nana, there is greatness! I love Nana. He's fucking great. Very nicely structured was this match, the pace was perfect, both men were composed for the majority of the bout and put on an acceptable opener. It felt as if it could go either way so all was good in this, except Rave's botched northern light suplex, although the commentator's did cover that up pretty well.Match 2 - Azrieal vs. Colt CabanaFuck, what a shit match. Azrieal hurts my eyes when he wrestles, seriously he's a waste of space. Cabana isn't much better either, a pointless match in my eyes. Azrieal trying to get Cabana to do his comedy routine again was terrible too, he looked like a right pillock prancing around the ring as if someone shoved something up his arse.Match 3 - ROH Pure Title Match - Nigel McGuinness © vs. Claudio CastagnoliThis match was all kinds of great. I think Castagnoli is entertaining and Nigel is a great heel, the two referee's stipulation added a nice little effect to this, too. They seemed to just blend together here, the styles work perfectly and the crowd were into this which helped it progress. Their feud has been decent, but I feel Claudio should have walked away with the strap. Overall it was a solid match for what it was.Match 4 - Steve Corino vs. Alex ShelleyUh, not the most gripping match in the world but these two wrestling is always going to be decent. Shelley is one of the best things in professional wrestling these days, he has the potential to be the future of this business. Yeah, overall it was a nice little bout, not either man's best work but it was acceptable. Oh, and let's leave it at this, Corino does not suit face. That man was born to be hated.Match 5 - Four Corner Survival Match - Samoa Joe vs. Jay Lethal vs. BJ Whitmer vs. Christopher DanielsUrgh, I hate 4 way matches. At least this one featured four decent competitors actually wrestling for a reason or two, and not jobber 1-4 wrestling for the sake of it. It was nothing special for the majority of it, but the pace picked up nearer the end and it actually became somewhat interesting. Also, leaving Joe not really getting his hands on Lethal was good and bad, bad because I wanted to see Lethal get mauled. Good because it leaves me wanting more of those two.Match 6 - Davey Andrews vs. Ricky Reyes.Squashes shouldn't be allowed in ROH.Match 7 - ROH Tag Team Title Match - Tony Mamaluke and Sal Rinauro © vs. Austin Aries and Roderick StrongAries and Strong carried this, they really showed what they're made of in this. Great team overall, I'm not too impressed with Mamaluke and Sal though, I've never liked them but I didn't enjoy their work here at all, at other points their work has been tolerable. Anyway, the ending was huge, nice to see a shit hot tag team take the straps. Oh, and Mamaluke is meant to be heel? He couldn't generate heel heat from that crowd if he shot one of them!Match 8 - ROH World Title Match - Bryan Danielson © vs. Naomichi MarufujiDanielson's theme music sets the mood of the match straight away. Final Countdown~! In my opinion, Danielson is the best worker in the world just now, he's fucking immense. But, in this match, he never really impressed me. Don't get me wrong, both men had a solid match, but I couldn't get into it at all. Apart from the hard hitting action, there was nothing more that shouted "HEY! THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME!". It was lacklustre at times and there was nothing that would make me want to watch this again. Although, I'd love to check out more of Marufuji, first time I've seen him wrestle as it happens so I think I'll be checking more of his work out. It was a passable match but the way the ROH fans marked out over it you'd think it was a five star match.Match 9 - GHC Jr. Heavyweight Title Match - KENTA © vs. Low KiBoth men portray a style that is very similar and this is what made this match worth watching. Back and forth with stiff kicks made the atmosphere what it was. There was nothing in the middle of the match though, everything seemed to be sucked out and used at the beginning or end, so there really wasn't a lot of depth. But, it was a fantastic finish, when you're on the edge of your seat anticipating the win you know you've witnessed an overall good match. It was nothing like I expected though, with reviews I had read it was meant to be a match of the year candidate, it wasn't that good.So yeah, overall it was a perfectly acceptable show, not the best card they've ever produced but it was decent all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 Corino actually tears an ACL in his knee during that match with Shelley, which is why it's somewhat less awesome than you were likely expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WU LYF 4 LYF Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Surprised at your opinions of Rave/Dragon. I thought the two Embassy defences were among Dragon's best, with the Shelley one a good yard ahead.The Shelleyb defence was really great. The Rave defence just bored me for some reason. It could get better from a rewatch. Seemed like a lot of the stuff was really random and unfocused, like Dragon putting on the Full Nelson about 3 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stone Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 According to Chris Heros Livejournal the kings of wrestling will challange Austin Aries and Roderick strong for the ROH tag belts in september Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Surprised at your opinions of Rave/Dragon. I thought the two Embassy defences were among Dragon's best, with the Shelley one a good yard ahead.The Shelleyb defence was really great. The Rave defence just bored me for some reason. It could get better from a rewatch. Seemed like a lot of the stuff was really random and unfocused, like Dragon putting on the Full Nelson about 3 times.Wasn't he mocking The Embassy pose with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WU LYF 4 LYF Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Wasn't he mocking The Embassy pose with that?He may have been. I didn't get that connection when I watched it though.Just seemed the match was Rave stealing a bit of offence, Dragon hitting his trademark spots in between striking and holds which meant nothing. It's a good match with some neat touches, but it isn't on the level of the Shelley defence or the Romero defence and the first match against Strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WU LYF 4 LYF Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Watched ROH Supercard Of Honor and thought I'd do a mini review.Shane Hagadorn v Flash Flanagan v Ricky Reyes v DeliriousWho the hell picked this to open the show? Why was this even on the show? Nobody could care less about Hagadorn or Flanagan, and this match is pretty awful. No legal man rules, no action of note except for maybe two Delirious comedy spots, which make this just above a train wreck. 1/2*Alex Shelley/Jimmy Rave v Claudio Castagnoli/Jimmy YangThanks god for Shelley and Rave, who manage to make a match with the abysmal Yang and the nondescript Castagnoli interesting. It helps that a lot of the match is spent throwing Yang about who, to his credit, takes a couple of nice bumps. Worth a watch for the Embassy's heeling, it really isn't all that good, just a pleasant suprise given the participants on the face team. *3/4First Blood Match Ace Steele v Chad CollyerOn the surface it looks like they do everything right. Both spend the entire match trying to bust each other open, making the stipulation mean something, both bring the hate, it should be a compelling battle. Problem is, it isn't. Collyer is awful most of the time, so nobody cares, Steele is a little less awful, if still a completely boring character, whose promo before the match was one of the worst I've ever seen. So yes, the match itself is good, it just makes you wish the participants were different, and actually had some character. *1/2Austin Aries/Jack Evans v Matt Sydal/AJ StylesThe action here was really good a lot of the time. There was just too much of it. They did some nice work around each character's interaction with others at the beginning- but I didn't need to see every character facing off against every opponent. The face in peril segments were nicely done- just I didn't really need to see two of them. You get what I mean. But I'll give them credit, between the 4 of them they produced some good action, which the live crowd ate up, and did a good job of furthering the friendly Sydal/GN rivarly, even if it isn't that good of a feud. Finishing sequence stood out as being excellent, some good character work, Styles didn't really shine here, and if anyone let the side down it was him. **3/4Blood Generation v Do FixerWell this isn't 5*, or even close, but it is fun. The lack of selling hurt the match, as did a complete lack of reason to care. Some of the offence was really sloppy as well. But the action flowed seamlessly along, building to an insane finishing sequence, which was nearly marred by the ridiculous chants. Not much I can say, it's been discussed to the end. It definately falls victim to its own hype, and while it's a good multiman, and probably a high end match in the style they wrestled, it wasn't really my cup of tea. ***Daizee Haze v Allison Danger v Lacey v Rain v Cheerleader Mellissa v MischiefThis really wasn;t the best use of these ladies. Maybe they'd get over a bit more if used in a singles match or even a tag, and to be honest, I think ROH should start using the Shimmer girls a lot more, and maybe book them in some actual feuds, since they're better than a lot of the men on the roster. The match wasn't anything to write home about, but there were a few neat moments, although the action came accross as a bit too contrived. *Homicide v Mitch FranklinAs squashes go, I've seen a lot better. Nothing much to say, but I much preferred the Reyes squashes to this. 1/2*Brawling was OK, both the Cabana/Cide brawls andf the ROH/CZW brawls had enough stuff in them to make them worthwhile.Samoa Joe v Jimmy Jacobs v Christopher DanielsJimmy Jacobs must be the revelation of the year. His character is suddenly brilliant and he's turned it up in the ring as well. No content with the 'Ballad Of Lacey' being the best thing on this entire DVD, he is the star of the match, and makes it great fun with some humorous touches. Even Daniels is less offensive than usual, though I could do without him using almost his entire high end moveset in the first 5 or 6 minutes of the match. Great fun. **1/2ROH World Championship Bryan Danielson© v Roderick StrongThis was really average, and on many accounts a failure. It failed to hold my or the crowds interest. It failed in getting Strong over as Dragon's equal. It wasn't all bad....The Good- Some really nice sequences- Actually liked quite a bit of the opening matwork- They set the building blocks nicely in the early stages- I felt that Strong was desperate to win the title at timesThe Bad- The length of the match was all wrong. The crowd was already worn out, it was midnight, why did they have to go so long? It didn't hold my interest at all- Strong has a total lack of charisma. Therefore, stuff like the stealing of Dragon's moves in a revenge spot wasn't good at all, as he didn't have the facials or character to carry it off.- Selling was really negligent throughout. Strong sold too much, and looked like he was trying too hard to be some sort of indy god. Dragon didn't sell enough, and blew most of Strong's high end stuff off.- The action was far too similar to their previous matches, except Dragon was less of a dick, which made it even worse- A lot of the offence became predictable. Plus, Dragon insisted on dominating 90% of the match, when he wasn't all that entertaining doing it.- Dragon was wrestling the same match 50 minutes in as he was 5 minutes in. No sign of desperation, no nothing.I'd have to say the match was average at best. The MOTY talk is really misguided, and while it's solid action, it lacks anything that makes it exciting, compelling viewing. The commentator gag about how people who don't like this will like the Cena match at ONS II was ridiculous as well- especially since Cena/RVD was better than this, and especially due to the fact that Cena has 20+ matches in his career better than this dull bout. **This was a show that was decent for the most part, and had two matches that stood out as being good, but the problem is you have so high expectations coming into these shows that you can't not be disappointed. It isn't the best ROH show ever, it's a solid all round show that's very fun at parts. 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HBAndy Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I'm watching Chi-Town Struggle at the moment. Will try and put up a review tonight or tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 You need to see some Sid promos if you thought Steel was THAT bad. I don't think the Supercard main event was that bad. It had it's downturns, but actually I thought it was Wodewick who was selling badly. He just FORGOT about the massive amount of leg work for a stretch, which kind of invalidated nearly twenty minutes of work preceeding it. Then afterwards he starts limping. Whatupwitdat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WU LYF 4 LYF Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 You need to see some Sid promos if you thought Steel was THAT bad.Yeah, to be fair to Ace, it wasn't that bad. It was the 'heavy breathing to show intensity' at the end I hated the most.Sorry if I seem a bit negative in my reviews of these shows. I actually like Ring Of Honor- they must be doing something right or I wouldn't keep coming back to watch the shows. Problem is, the matches get too much hype, and there's often not enough quality on the undercard. Usually a ROH show is better than a WWE PPV.I don't think the Supercard main event was that bad.It wasn't terrible, it was just pretty average and I often found my mind wandering as I watched it.but actually I thought it was Wodewick who was selling badly. He just FORGOT about the massive amount of leg work for a stretch,See, I felt the exact opposite. I also hated his selling of the leg, but that's because he insisted on selling it after most moves, when Dragon's work on it hadn't really been all that extensive. I was glad when he stopped selling it. Just felt like overselling to me.which kind of invalidated nearly twenty minutes of workI'm sure Dragon only worked on the leg for about 5 minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 He kept going back to it. There was this period where Wodewick kept hitting him but he constantly went back to the leg to take him down. Either way, he started limping when it was over so it was obvious they were planning on him selling the leg, which made forgetting about it really weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBAndy Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 If you want to see bad INTENSE promos watch anything by Dan Maff ever. That guy on the mic made me cringe, he thought he was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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