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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:23 PM

Is the word Paki or Pakey how ever you spell it conceded racist remark? I donít understand how an abbreviation on the word Pakistani can be so offensive to anybody. Today I got sacked for using the word coloured to describe somebody now I or any of my Asian friends find this word as offensive yet some people take to huge offence to it. The whole world is pc mad you cant call a black cab a black cab anymore because of the word black is evolved call me crazy but how can anybody take offence to somebody saying black cab. The same has happened with the word black board.Facts are facts Asians in particular demand that they get treated equal in this country yet with the way things are in modern day Brittan they get treated a better then any other race or creed. The whole thing is that local authorities are worried about racisms so much that they the treat in particular the Muslim community a whole lot better than any other race in this country housing is provided a lot quicker just because of the colour of somebody skin is this fair? Political correctness is at a point when anything can be taken to offence now maybe my comment to do of calling somebody coloured was a bit out of place but I canít understand why that should be issued a sacking?Now donít call me a racist because I am far from it I take in other cultures of religions and believe that everybody should be treated as an equal party and that so called racist words are not looked on as bad as people do now.Take the Oldham riots from last year both communities are to blame yet the whole blame was centred on the BMP. I donít support the BMP in anyways but donít the government realise that these type of auctioned that we saw a few summers ago will happen because different communities feel the others are treated differently.My whole point really of this topic is that the government should not be so equal to one race or you will get an uproar this is what causes the majority of racistís behaviour in the UK and the silly pc ruling that they apply people to think that they are different.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:34 PM

Stop trying to blame a largely nonexistent social phenomenon for your own lack of professionalism.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:48 PM

Stop trying to blame a largely nonexistent social phenomenon for your own lack of professionalism.

Maybe not so apparent in your middle class upbringing where you do not have to live with these tensions try living in a largely Asian community where it feels like you walking on eggshells all the time. The fact that I work for a job centre and because I refused the man at the time benefit that he but in a complete and got me sacked. He overheard me say that the coloured gentleman on the right is next, to my boss he made no point of it at the start of the claim. But when I refused him he decided to play the race card and say that I was a racist and was refusing him because of the colour of his skin. I refused him because to get job seekers benefit you need to look for work.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:52 PM

Stop trying to blame a largely nonexistent social phenomenon for your own lack of professionalism.

Maybe not so apparent in your middle class upbringing where you do not have to live with these tensions try living in a largely Asian community where it feels like you walking on eggshells all the time.

1) What do you know about my upbringing?2) If you just didn't use the word 'coloured' like the rest of the country you wouldn't have lost your job and that's the simple fact of the matter.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:55 PM

What the hell? Since when was calling someone "coloured" deemed racist?I agree Big Frank. This country has gone PC mad.I no longer wish to be called "white." I just have fair skin :angry: And another thing is, you can't call midgets midgets anymore. You have to call them "a person of less the averege height."

Edited by JobberToTheStars, 16 December 2003 - 09:58 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:57 PM

What the hell? Since when was calling someone "coloured" deemed racist?I agree Big Frank. This country has gone PC mad.

Coulored is rasist?Thats just stupid!

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:58 PM

lack of professionalism.

I was never unprofessional in the manor that I worked I took ever case on merit not on race. If the room at the time was full of blond haired people and somebody had black hair I would say the man with the black hair. I can understand how descriptive none hurtful comment can get you sacked from a job that you have worked your hardest and never had a day off work since joining can get you the sack. May I ask if the same thing would happen in other countries? I understand that we live in a multi race society and on some things we have to be careful with whatever creed or religion we are taking it to far that the facts are that we now have to re-evaluate what we says because we could be one of the following.Ageism Racism Sexism All the other social rules that the government give us to try to make the world yet the way I see it we are making the world a worse place. Freedom of speech is make believe.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:00 PM

Frank, couldn't you sue them for unfair dissmissial?

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:02 PM

'Coloured' is considered to be an impolite term. 'Black' or 'Asian' are perfectly acceptable replacements. If you were sacked then the term was clearly inappropriate for your workplace.The same thing would happen in many other countries including most of Europe and the United States.If you think Freedom of Speech is make believe then you clearly haven't noticed the variety of newspapers and television channels available to you, your ability to vote in elections and your ability to write stuff like this on the Internet.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:05 PM

Stop trying to blame a largely nonexistent social phenomenon for your own lack of professionalism.

Maybe not so apparent in your middle class upbringing where you do not have to live with these tensions try living in a largely Asian community where it feels like you walking on eggshells all the time.

1) What do you know about my upbringing?2) If you just didn't use the word 'coloured' like the rest of the country you wouldn't have lost your job and that's the simple fact of the matter.

I dont know anything about your upbringing just me being me I guess. To your second point I dare anybody to say that they have never used a word, term or phase etc that the establishment considers wrong

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:05 PM

Sorry if this offends anyone, its not ment to in the slightist-------------------------------------------------------------------------This is an intresting point,As I'm told you can no longer sayBlack person/man/women/childBrown person/man/women/child(although I agree with this)Coloured person/man/women/childAlso the "n" word used to call a, erm...an African-American I think is also wrong, however I do find it stupid when "hommies" call each other it but yet complain as soon as a white person says it.Anyone who trys to play the race card should be shot, a white person isn't offended by the "white board" or "white *insert word here*". I suppose if a African-American refuses something to a white person you could play the race card, but its a fact of life, people have diffrent coloured skin....so?, I don't give a toss about religion, race or anything else, I'm still gonna treat you the same with the respect your owed, you piss me off and I'll call you a wanker no matter what the facter is, yet some will play the race card which is sad(although I am away this is a very very very small percentage who actually do).I think the term "Coloured" and "Black" are perfectly acceptable, but then again, I'm white skined.Anyone else here who is an African-American(unsure if this is even correct), Asain, any other race other than white using this board?If so what do you think is and isn't acceptable, as it isn't ever soemthing I have been told directly from someone is affects, only classroom teachers.CyaMicken

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:06 PM

Although I was actually vaguely sympathetic to your situation until your attempt to analyse the Oldham riots (caused by a few Asian *individuals*, and a couple of hundred football hooligans, many of whom were not from Oldham), at the end of the day you were working in the public sector, and thus under a carefully crafted racism policy. Seeing as getting ahead in the public sector is all about following rules, no matter how silly, to a t, you were clearly not suited.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:09 PM

I dont know anything about your upbringing just me being me I guess. To your second point I dare anybody to say that they have never used a word, term or phase etc that the establishment considers wrong

Oh sure, you can complain about the niggers and kikes until the cows go home as long as you're within the comfort of your own property, but don't expect to be able to it at your place of work.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:11 PM

You know what I hate? People who don't learn the langauge when they move over here and you can tell are moaning about you when you don't understand what they are saying... Geez. Thank (the none existent) christ I got that off my chest.Racist? i fn' hope not coz it pisses me off...

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:13 PM

This is bullshit. I hear plenty black people saying things like, "That WHITE boy/girl/man/women" and it's not considered wrong in the slightest. But I come out with a comment like, "That BLACK boy/girl/man/women" and there'd be plenty people jumping on my back about it with things like, "What's his colour got to do with it?"I never understood why the "N word" is so hated anyway. I mean...it's just a word.