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#31 NEWM

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 12:59 PM

Here's an interesting one: Donnybrook Theatre.

A never-aired concept that Wrestlecrap profiled here. Done in 1995, it was due to be the first time WWF ever openly slagged off Hogan since he left the company, was to feature Yokozuna's first ever american speech, show Vince Russo's face to a large audience for the first time and featured Lord Alfred Hayes long after his last appearance on TV.

Obviously, it's total garbage. In that fun mid-90s way, though.

WWE 24/7 recently released it to the world. And then, to be cool, somebody posted it on Youtube.

Enjoy.

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 08:34 PM

Ultimo Dragon vs. Psychosis


The spot where Dragon went for the move THQ calls the "Dragonsteiner" (which Rey still does sometimes) but instead floated all the way around and hit a DDT (called as a Tornado DDT by Tenay) - was that an improvised slip up made good, or a genuine innovated move? I ask because while it looked wicked, Dragon never did it again.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 06:50 AM

Here's an interesting one: Donnybrook Theatre.

A never-aired concept that Wrestlecrap profiled here. Done in 1995, it was due to be the first time WWF ever openly slagged off Hogan since he left the company, was to feature Yokozuna's first ever american speech, show Vince Russo's face to a large audience for the first time and featured Lord Alfred Hayes long after his last appearance on TV.

Obviously, it's total garbage. In that fun mid-90s way, though.

WWE 24/7 recently released it to the world. And then, to be cool, somebody posted it on Youtube.

Enjoy.


... it looks like a bad SNL sketch making fun of wrestling
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 12:28 PM

FMW Hand-Held: May 12, 1990, Towada - (1 3/4 hrs)


May 12, 1990, Towada Citizen Gym (1800 fans)

1. Yuki Morimatsu -vs- Yoshika Maedomari [1/2*]
--- Both girls had debuted earlier in 1990 and that made sure this was as basic as a joshi rookie match gets. Yoshika "Crusher" Maedomari is most known for being Shark Tsuchiya's tag partner in the first half of the 90's as this butch monster women's team while Yuki Morimatsu had the best part of her career in Jd' as the masked Ryuna and the Drake Morimatsu. Morimatsu gets to win this one rather unspectacularly with a Jumbo Tsuruta like side suplex.
6:27 of 6:30 - Morimatsu pinned Maedomari after a side suplex


2. Jun Onouchi -vs- Akihito Ichihara [1/4*]
--- Two guys I know nearly nothing about. Ichihara had a much longer and better career as Flying Kid Ichihara and more recently as Ebessan II, but here neither guy showed much as it was a terrible short rookie bout which Onouchi won with a horrible looking Victory Roll in no time.
2:06 of 2:09 - Onouchi pinned ishihara with a Victory Roll


3. Mascarita Sagrada -vs- Espectrito [*]
--- Only a quick midget fix with a handful cool moves before Sagrada had it won. These two would have tons of greater matches then this the next decade, but at least it beats Tiger Jackson and Little Louie who they brought in for he first tour.
3:54 - Sagrada pinned Espectrito after a top rope summersault press


4. Lee Wong Pyo -vs- The Shooter [1/4*]
--- A unknown korean trying to do pro-wrestling and getting to beat a Shooter. Over quick and forgettable.
4:06 of 4:06 - Pyo defeated Shooter after a neck breaker


5. Ricky Fuji -vs- The Shooter [1/2*]
--- This might actually be Ricky Fuji's FMW debut. He started his wrestling career in Hart's Stampede promotion in Canada during 1988 and was scouted by Onita and brough in to FMW for his first gig in his home country. Only a very quick win for Fuji who was dominant here doing the type of wrestling you'd normaly associate for Stampede. And he'd not bleached his hair yet!
2:41 of 2:40 - Fuji made Shooter submit to a chickenwing crossface


6. Magnificent Mimi -vs- Megumi Kudo [* 1/4]
--- Mimi was heavily featured in wrestling mags around this time. A tall lady with a smalltime movie career I belive. She was fairly atheltic and had there been a bigger market for women's wrestling in the US at that time she might have had a career. I don't remember if she had any tours with AJW or JWP at the time, so this might have been her only tour of Japan. The wrestling was fairly basic, but Kudo got in a little before she fell victim to the foreigner. Mimi did a fancy looking backdrop suplex which Kudo unexpectedly kicked out of, but then Mimi followed up with a long-leged top rope dropkick for the pin.
7:50 of 8:20 - Mimi pinned Kudo after a top rope dropkick


7. Reibun Amada & Noriyo Toyoda -vs- Kumiko Matsuda & Miwa Sato [*]
--- The earliest footage of, soon to be Combat, Noriyo Toyoda in FMW. Another one from the AJW 1986 class along with Amada and Kudo who got dropped by AJW after a few years considered not good enough. And the two '86'ers was having a easy time convincing the FMW fans that they were the best in this bout facing two of FMW's own trained girls. The match itself wasn't all that interesting. It was a basic quash with very few highlights. But at least it got the point across that Toyoda & Amada are a force to be recond with....
8:36 of 8:37 - Amada pinned Matsuda after a double-arm faceslam


8. Lee Gak Soo -vs- Yukihide Ueno - (Rounds) [* 3/4]
--- Ueno will forever be remembered as a solid midcard guy who with his athletic fighting didn't really live up to his potential because of his small size. He's the type of grapler who'd go all in and get caught with kicks from the more bastardist like Lee. Only a few judo throws went Ueno's way before he got kicked one too many times down and KO'ed.
7:41 of 7:41 - Soo defeated Ueno by KO after a high head kick 1:41 of the 3rd Round


9. Tarzan Goto -vs- The Wizard [3/4*]
--- Goto beating up a masked nobody very simply....
7:09 of 7:10 - Goto pinned Wizard after a facebuster


10. Masanobu Kurisu & Wild Bullman -vs- Atsushi Onita & Fumiharu Asako [**]
--- Not so much about Onita then about trying to build interest for the big sambo guy. Onita was barely in and when he was it was only to get some momentum for Asako who most of the time was beat up by this bearded mini-Brody character called Wild Bullman. Well, Onita's help didn't really help as he was more interested in attacking Kurisu when saving Asako from Bullman's claws. And that was Asako's doom and he was knocked down and out by Bullman while Onita was fighting with Kurisu out of the ring.
10:10 of 9:49 - Bullman pinned Asako after a lariat


COMMENTS: I guess this was a typical FMW house show at the time. Many quick meaningless matches. Even Onita was phoning it in. Still it's interesting to see the FMW pieces come together with more and more regular FMW wrestlers turning up as the company starts running regularly.


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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:26 PM

^^^Thread killer^^^

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:33 PM

I thought he'd posted in the wrong thread so I just left it :/
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 08:01 PM

Doesn't get much more old school than these chaps.

I was actually trying to find the Sting/Robocop thing because I fancied a giggle, when I stumbled across an angle, which reminded me of a much better storyline. That being the formation of maybe my favourite faction ever (along with Kaentai DX) - The Dangerous Alliance. The basic story was that Paul E. Dangerously had been a commentator, but lost his job, was pissed off about it and declared war on WCW. They generally feuded with all the top faces in the company, mainly Sting, Ricky Steamboat, Dustin Rhodes, Barry Windham, Nikita Koloff, leading to the famous War Games match at WrestleWar '92. I tried to find as much of the important stuff as I could, so enjoy you lucky swines!

But, be warned - while early 90s WCW was so great in many ways, it was also comically shit. This stuff is a good example of that...

In the first relevant incident Larry Zbyszko earns his 'Crusher' nickname by fucking up Baz Windham's hand with help from Arn Anderson while Dustin Rhodes, like an idiot, sits there doing nothing. Then The Haloween Phantom is revealed as Rick Rude. Like I said, WCW in the early 90s is fucking hysterical. Look at Eric Bischoff! Just look at him dressed up as Dracula. What's more, he seems perfectly happy to be dressed as Dracula. Not to mention, The Phantom's cheap ass looking outfit. Anyway, Heyman cuts a hell of a promo and pre-horrible tit job Madusa looks nice.

At the Clash of the Champions, Rhodes and Windham are scheduled to face tag Champs Anderson and Zbyszko, but Bazza's hand is fucked so Rhodes finds a mystery partner. A mystery partner who enters wearing the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life on his head. The mystery partner is revealed and the tag title match is on - Parts I, II and III. It's good stuff.

Same night, Sting is scheduled to face Rude for the US title. Then some wacky shit involving mystery boxes and Madusa acting like a possessed slut lead to Sting getting injured by Lex Luger. 'What a dastardly attack' says JR. Bobby Eaton, the sly bastard, tells Sting to go to hospital (or in JR world, a 'medical facility') because he's got plenty of time. Except he doesn't as Paul E. has found a loophole in the contract which means if Sting isn't in the ring come bell time, Rude wins the US title by forfeit. More comedy from Bischoff, with him and JR having a phone conversation from hospital. Look at his little face in that picture. Sting, being a hero, returns to face Rude. Good little brawl they have. Ross is great on commentary here and Paul E. cuts another great promo post-match complete with theatrical spitting.

Anyway, Heyman officially announces The Dangerous Alliance of Zybysko, Anderson, Rude, Stunning Steve Austin, Eaton and Madusa. I'm not actually sure where Austin fits into all this but he's 'the world's greatest athlete' according to Heyman and he's Stunning Steve Austin, so who cares?

On to Starrcade '91 and the impossibly shit 'Lethal Lottery'. 40 wrestlers were entered into the lottery and chosen 'at random' to form 20 tag teams. Each team faced another 'randomly' chosen team and the winning team got entered into BattleBowl~! (or a battle royal to you and me) where the winner gets...something. I dunno. So basically, the PPV had 10 tag matches and a battle royal. Like I said - shit. Amazingly, Rude and Austin were 'randomly' chosen to team together where they faced the Hansen/Brody-like duo of Van Hammer and Big Josh. Zybysko doesn't make BattleBowl because El Gigante is a retard. I know you're desperate to see clips of all this so : here. Anyway, Sting ends up winning BattleBowl and getting whatever you get for winning BattleBowl.

At the next Clash, Sting and Steamboat took on Austin and Rude. I'm pretty sure there was six man involving the other members, but I couldn't find it, so we'll pretend it didn't happen.

On to SuperBrawl II (here is the intro). This is the show with the pretty famous Liger/Pillman match, generally recognised as one of the best opening matches ever. But we aren't here to talk about that shit. Barry Windham is still, understandably, pissed off about his broken hand. He's looking for revenge on Zybyszko, who teams with Stunning Steve to take on Windham and Rhodes. At the beginning of this, you get an interview with The Taylor Made Man who is described, by Missy Hyatt, as looking 'so dapper'. He doesn't, of course. He looks like Terry Taylor wearing something that the Million Dollar Man rejected. In fact, I'd go as far as to say he looks like a twat. Anyway, this match is good stuff. Like all good grudge matches it starts with a brawl~! I hate it when grudge matches start with headlocks and shit. Here's part II. Same night Eaton and Anderson (who are now the tag champs) face the Steiner Brothers. It's another good tag match - Parts I and II.

Before this match Missy Hyatt interviews a ninja. Yep. A ninja. Ricky Steamboat's own personal ninja apparently. Don't ask me. Madusa also tries to talk to Steamboat, but the ninja wont let her, so she bitchslaps him: See this ninja-related madness. All this is ahead of Rick Rude vs. Steamboat for the US title. The ninja's reaction when Steamboat is leaving his dressing room is priceless. I'm not sure what I'm missing with this ninja business. Can anyone fill me in? Why did Steamboat have his own ninja? Anyway, it's one of Rude's better singles matches, certainly in a WCW ring, that I can think of. The crowd absolutely HATES him. They are so loud he can barely do his pre-match disrobing routine. Steamboat w/Ninja vs. Rude part I and Part II. Afterwards, the ninja's true identity is revealed. Missy Hyatt is so terrible in these segments that you have to wonder if she's doing it on purpose.

The blow-off to the feud was, of course, War Games. The Dangerous Alliance vs. Sting's Squadron. In the build-up there was a suggestion that Nikita couldn't be trusted and that he'd betray his team. Plus, the Alliance attacked Steamboat and broke his nose, which explains the comedy plaster he is wearing. It's a classic brawl and a great blow-off to the feud and my personal favourite War Games match (Part I, Part II).

That was basically it. The faction carried on for a bit, IIRC, but Larry got booted, then Madusa got fired and I'm pretty sure Michael Hayes ended up getting involved and things all got a bit shit. When Heyman went to ECW a couple of New Dangerous Alliances appeared, but the originals were the bollocks. Here is some more fun DA-related stuff:

Ricky Steamboat vs. Bobby Eaton - Steamboat gets his nose broken.
Sting gets attacked
6-Man tag
Steamboat interview - He's with Sting, Rhodes and Windham. Oh and his ninja.
Another 6-Man.
Windham vs. Austin - for the TV Title.
Madusa gets fired. - Paul E. is gold.

You better watch all this stuff now that I've found it. :thumbsup:

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 09:42 PM

Now that is how you do a post! Going to watch through it tomorrow. Good work thumbs-up.gif

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 11:42 PM

Get lost, you lot. PUNQ's posts are an excellent read, he does them on Mempho as well. If you're too lazy to bother reading through and then asking about them or talking about some of the shows or wrestlers he's mentioned, that's your fault; it doesn't make him a thread-killer.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 11:48 PM

QUOTE (Carbomb @ Jun 25 2009, 1:42) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Get lost, you lot. PUNQ's posts are an excellent read, he does them on Mempho as well. If you're too lazy to bother reading through and then asking about them or talking about some of the shows or wrestlers he's mentioned, that's your fault; it doesn't make him a thread-killer.


Oh do be quiet. He has an entire thread filled with posts identical to that, it was hardly the mistake of the century me thinking he posted in the wrong thread. And before you start throwing around stupid arse accusations of not reading them or anything, I do read them. Including the one in this thread. In all total fairness though, he's posting about obscure japanese stuff from 1990 that hardly anyone in here will understand or know about anyway. In a thread full of talk mainly about early WWF/WCW/NWA stuff, it's hardly a shock his post looked out of place.
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Posted 25 June 2009 - 01:13 AM

QUOTE (AliveAndAmplified @ Jun 25 2009, 1:48) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Carbomb @ Jun 25 2009, 1:42) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Get lost, you lot. PUNQ's posts are an excellent read, he does them on Mempho as well. If you're too lazy to bother reading through and then asking about them or talking about some of the shows or wrestlers he's mentioned, that's your fault; it doesn't make him a thread-killer.


Oh do be quiet. He has an entire thread filled with posts identical to that, it was hardly the mistake of the century me thinking he posted in the wrong thread. And before you start throwing around stupid arse accusations of not reading them or anything, I do read them. Including the one in this thread. In all total fairness though, he's posting about obscure japanese stuff from 1990 that hardly anyone in here will understand or know about anyway. In a thread full of talk mainly about early WWF/WCW/NWA stuff, it's hardly a shock his post looked out of place.


Err, this is a thread about the old school. FMW in the early 90s is as Old School as it gets, these are the guys who invented the Death Match. Nowhere at any point does it say that it has to be about early WWF/WCW/NWA stuff, and just because that's all anyone else has talked about so far doesn't mean that nobody else wants to read them. And even if you don't like them, it doesn't mean "hardly anyone" will know or understand them - there are plenty of puro fans on here. Either way, this thread is as good a place for it as any, and calling it a "thread-killer" just highlights other people's ignorance. You don't know or care, fine - there are plenty of other people who do. Don't speak for them.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 06:34 AM

Too be fair the FMW reviews didn't exactly sparke much nostalgia talk as I'd hoped so in that sense I can understand the very constructive "^^^Thread killer^^^" remark.

It is interesting how different perspectives I have from the the current generation of UKFF'ers. It's difficult to grasp that many today actually think FMW is obscure wrestling while I more or less grew up with it. FMW is my early 90's WCW in a way. Surely there must be some understanding that shows featuring freakin' Dick Murdoch, Jos LeDuc and Japanese old schoolers Kurisu, Goto, Nagasaki and "The Wild Thing" Atsushi Onita belong in a old school thread! But then again there seems to be some Jap-o-fobia going on around here which was easily spoted in the Misawa thread recently, so it's not surprising people "booo" when some Jap stuff one has little understanding of take up place of wrestling one self understand, ruining the WCW discussion. And that attitude will keep the old school Japanese wrestling stay "obscure" instead of actually learning from it. Then again I'm the first to admit I'm not very good at sparkling discussion like many others are with their writing, so it's also understandable that some want my stuff out of it. And that's what'll happen from now on. I'll keep my reviews in out of this thread.


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Posted 25 June 2009 - 06:49 AM

Hearing FMW referred to as "Obscure Japanese Stuff" has actually quite shocked me.

I thought anyone who used to watch the original ECW would have heard of FMW and at least checked them out. It was only recently they were shown on UK Satellite.

Have wrestling fans really changed that much in so little time?

For the record, I find PUNQ's posts very interesting, I don't reply because I don't know enough to reply, but I am a regular reader.
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Posted 25 June 2009 - 09:07 AM

Nothing wrong with more FMW reviews. Come on, let's see 'em, PUNQ.

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Posted 25 June 2009 - 09:12 AM

I think the problem is what eugenespeed highlighted, people don't really know enough to add anything or disagree with what you post, so the responses are limited. Feel free to post your reviews in the thread though, the only criteria is that the stuff people talk about in here is pre-2000, and your stuff fits under that comfortably.

Personally I did read the reviews, but I only have a real interest in FMW stuff featuring Hayabusa (my favourite wrestler). Him, Kanemura, Tanaka, Team No Respect, Mr. Gannosuke. That kind of stuff.


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