See that's the thing I don't know if i like her. It is advisable to meet discretly first and see how it goes?

Yup.

Go ask her out as mates, see if you click.

Play it by ear.

I know, and I shouldn't be getting into these things as it will just get messy I'm sure. But, I really feel like I need to try and take one of these opportunities and just see what happens.

At the least, I'd like to give them a really nice last few days before we head off in our own way.

A saying a "big" girl friend of mine says "Big girls are like scooters. Fun to ride, but you wouldnt want your mates to see you with one"


Mind you, my mate is frigging gorgeous, so would have no probs being seen with her.

At the end of the day, is it all about looks though anyway? Most girls prefer more "What can you do and feel?" than "What do you look like?" Thats my opinion anyways

I need an opinion too.

I've been texting someone a lot. He's not even in the same country as me but I've been getting up to 40 texts a day from him. I think he's really cute and I like him. He's reluctant to actually discuss anything serious though. We've never met in person but he makes me laugh, he makes me smile, he sends me "Good morning" texts and "Good night" texts and what not even when I know he doesn't have much money. As we've never met I tried to ask him what his first impressions of me were and he said he "liked" me or he wouldn't talk to me. How do I take that? I don't want to push things in case I scare him off but I would like him to elaborate.

Opinions from the guys around here would be appreciated!

I'd be legitimately petrified and thoroughly annoyed if someone sent me 40 texts in a 24 hour period.

It's not as freaky as it sounds. We just got carried away having conversations via text. I mean, if you were having a conversation with someone on MSN that lasted about 30mins I bet you'd have hit 'enter' at least 40 times during that period. It's sort of like that.

Don't bring me into this, I would never text someone 40 times a day.

40 texts per day! That's A LOT. If I did that with a girl I'm sure I'd scare them off, but it's very clear that he likes you, you don't put that much effort into texting a girl that much that you don't like.

And who has ever ever ever said "Good night" via text to a girl that you DIDN'T like?

I've been thinking about my predicament as well, the original girl that I initially talked about in this thread is the one I'm going with. It's just a pity we are both going off to Uni so soon. I know we'll see each other a few times shortly though.

Well, looks like things have died down. After over a week of almost constant texting, today there was nothing. I don't know if I did something wrong or said the wrong thing or maybe he's lost his phone (but when he didn't have credit he e-mailed me).

He said yesterday he "liked" me but wouldn't elaborate, just said if he didn't like me he wouldn't talk to me. So what's gone wrong now?

Is this a guy thing? "Oh shit, she likes me, this is going too fast, I can't handle the pressure, oh look a Snickers"?

ARGH!!

He's probably thought "Bollocks. Now I've told her I like her, what the flying pan-handle do I do? I know... I'll just not say anything and hope she says something first."

*cough*

Hah! Tried that. I sent a text saying something like "Hello, how you doing today?" and he never answered. I'm way ahead of you.

Ok, so I just had a falling out with a girl I'm pretty talktive too, she called me a shallow minded moron for laughing at the various bands that got bottled at the Reading Festival, then I asked "Blimey, whats the matter with you?", She said she was "Busy", I said I doubt its that "Tell me whats wrong?" She said "No." in kinda of a fuck off fashion, now we're not talking. She used to have a great sense of humour and was fun to be around now shes become a moody cow, That time of the month is it?

"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."


Probably. Give it a couple of days.

Now methinks that may be on the verge on stalking. If he doesn't want to talk to me then being bombarded with texts saying "Are you talking to me?", "Why aren't you talking to me?", "Are you ignoring me now?", "Are you getting these messsages?" are going a bit too far.

I've come to the conclusion that as men, after a little while of knowing a girl we fuck them up in the head. And then she changes, becomes either a cow or a clingy depressed person and then lives a generally shitty life because she met a man. Or that might just be me, either way.

Have we met??

Then don't say that. Say something that might actually inspire conversation. I'm not saying to just keep going on and on and on, but give him a little more encouragement - even just one or two more messages. One tonight - if he doesn't reply, try again tomorrow. It shows that you're interested, but not a stalker.

Sounds to me like she might like you but you're not giving her any signs that you liike her in that way so she is getting annoyed and pissy because she wants you to take the hint already!!!

Why do our social conditions make it so difficult to be straight with people?

Wouldn't it be fantastic if we didn't have to go through these guessing games and just tell each other what we felt?

To Ducky, I think that guy is now sure he's got you so he's playing it overly cool, yes he's being a bit of a dick about it but I'm sure it means that you now want him more, no? I'd make him sweat for a couple of days and he'll soon be right back in your palms.

I may go all out anarchy this weekend and tell Becky that I want to sex her silly before she goes to Uni.

^^^^^^^^^^^ That was a joke by the way.

Long ass post -

One thing I think needs pointing out is that men should take the lead. It's not sexist bullcrap - it's human biology. It's all to do with Yin and Yang.

I'm not telling you to go and bully/boss girls around, just assume she likes you and be bold.

Picking up women is a state of mind. It truly is. Don't look at it as 'I want to impress her', assume she already likes you. Be more concerned with if the girl is someone you'll get on with.

It's easy to say what I'm saying now. 'Be confident'... not as straight forward as that. What's really helped me this Summer is checking out the site I link to in my sig, opening and balancing your Chakras (don't laugh... I thought it was BS a few months ago, but I swear my body is vibing more all the time. I'm tingling everywhere), changing your mindset and good old fashioned field work. See a hot girl - talk to her. You might stutter and be wooden at first but you'll soon come good.

I've had so much more luck this Summer with girls... and I'm enjoying it. Most girls are awesome. Occasionally I meet 'pussy power' girls but I realise that's generally a result of fear and bad experiences the girl has encountered.

Don't think to yourself 'I'm crap with women' or 'she's out of my league'. That mentality will stick.

Someone mentioned 'The Game' (a seduction advice book). Those sort of things are focused on outer game - clever lines, routines, body language stuff. It's all well and good but inner game is WAY more important.

Here's a formula that's helped me out -

Courage

+

Consideration

+

Qualifying (finding out if you get on with the girl. They need to know that nice tits and a hot ass isn't enough for you. Let them 'earn' you)

-

Putting up with crap (some girls create drama. Don't get pissy about it but don't let them walk over you. Don't take it seriously. A lot of girls act shitty without even realising it. It's their defense mechanisms kicking in. Some call this 'shit testing')

=

Happy with women

HBAndy, as others have said, it sounds like this girl likes you. I very much doubt she'll take the lead. I know we're no longer stuck in the dark ages of huge sexual inequality (a debateable point... but you get me) but men should still initiate relationships IMHO.

Here's a tip. When you're next with her, talk to her. Do the eye contact thing. You might wanna try the following technique (I know I've criticised 'techniques' but this is a good one, from experience) -

Look at her lips briefly
Look at her neck briefly
Look at her breasts briefly (be careful not to get in a trance )
Look back up at her neck briefly
Look back up at her lips briefly
Now lick your lips subtely

And repeat a couple of times. This should build up sexual heat in a non creepy way. Then lean in for the kiss.

If she pulls away, say 'it's ok... we'll do it when you're more comfortable'. Most blokes would be flummoxed by a kiss rejection and perhaps apologise. This response is both considerate and courageous. Why should you apologise for going for a kiss? It's hardly the worst thing you can do to someone.

I don't mean to patronise. This was stuff I needed to learn. I was carrying a shame complex. Showing any sort of attraction to girls would really make me feel vulnerable. Now I'm losing all of that bullshit and starting to have better results.

On holiday, a girl fell for me. The chemistry between us was enormous and things were shaping up really well. But I kept missing opportunities to kiss her as I was scared. That led her to playing stupid games to try to draw me into making a decisive move. Eventually I got hurt and didn't bother. I think, having learned that, I wouldn't repeat the same mistake now. fairy_jasmine18's comment about Vamp's girl getting pissy because she wants him to take the hint rings so true with me.

So yeah, HBAndy, take the lead and get physical with this girl. If it doesn't work, trust the Universe to supply your abundance of pussy

If you're spending money on 'The Game' you might want to spend money on ideaGasms (see link below). Some of Strauss' stuff is surely useful but I've heard he focuses on techniques that trick women to like men or get guys pretending to be someone else. IdeaGasms is more concerned with being heart-centered, spirituality and building up self esteem. It's having an enormous benefit on my life.

If you have doubts about ideaGasms, ask yourself if you can make a girl do this (warning - over 18s only). Then maybe you'll realise that this guy knows his shit.

Cool... so I'm done. That was a long and no doubt scattered post, but maybe it's helped someone.

Enjoy this crazy thing we know as relationships. They can hurt... but my God, they can be amazing.

Best wishes to all of you UKFF love Gods and Godesses

Good advice Sparkmeister. But I pissed myself reading the technique! If I did that I'd be told to stop being such a perv! Which I am...

It probably sounds weird in text but actually do it, get sucked into the moment and it's actually kinda amazing. The first couple of times you try it you'll probably quit halfway as you'll be overwhelmed by it

Ooh, another technique I've just learned... been trying it out today. Look at girl(s), visualise shooting green light from your heart and maybe orange light from just above your groin. Shoot it at them Seriously. Then maybe talk to them. Somehow it changes your tonality and body language and makes them really respond well to you. It's known as a 'PING'. Sounds absolutely fucking bonkers but today I was having some decent results with it. I got an insanely hot blonde girl stuttering her words at me, all shy like (I don't think she has a stammer or anything ) and had a nice brunette unashamedly staring at me (and no, she wasn't thinking 'what a creep' because I only PINGed her briefly and looked away ).

Awesome, awesome post.

The thing is we've been very physical on many occasions previously, but I have no idea how to take it to that next level (ya know, that NEXT level, I want to sex her basically), I don't know how to just say "Will you let my willy in your bajingo?" in not so many words.

I will agree with everything you've said, all it takes is a little bit of courage and just go up and say hello to a girl who's catching your eye, and then be your naturally self, the worse they can do is walk away (and nobody will do this rudely), and the best that can happen is literally the best.

And personally, I didn't read The Game to pick up tips (apart from the posture thing and just chatting), I really enjoyed it as a fun book, which is what I believe it was written for anyway.

I'm so going to do that technique anyway!

I'm very interested in that chakra thing and yin and yang and karma and all that stuff to, is there anywhere you recommend a start?

That ideaGasms link in my signature is your hook up here. It costs money... but cutting out negative crap, attracting amazing women, getting them to squirt and all-round improving your life is about the same cost as 3 nights out.

You might wanna sign up to the newsletter first. That's free, and I believe you can check out the newsletter archives. The guy doesn't skimp you with the newsletters. They are genius in themselves. They don't just advertise his products. Then, if still interested, get the Pickup E-Book and definitely the Chakra stuff. It's quite amazing how much energy is swirling round my body. Ever had goosebumps when listening to an awesome song? I have that feeling most of the time. It also means I'm more tuned in to negative energy so I can avoid it.

I'm not affiliated with the guy who runs the site or anything. I've messaged him a couple of times through e-mail and the discussion forum. He's very helpful.

As for 'letting your willy in her banjo' ... the best bet is don't make it into a big deal. Don't verbalise you wanna fuck her. Say something like 'let's go back to mine'. Walk for the exit and put your hand behind you for her to grip. If you lead, she'll come (literally!). Just don't make it into a big deal.

Here's a recent ideaGasms newsletter, entitled 'Are You Flirting With Me?'. It's kinda relevant.



___________

The ideaGasms® Dating, Sex and Relationships newsletter is
considered by many to be the most ARROGANT newsletter on the
'net. We're glad you like it!


Hey Everyone,

I've just finished recording my upcoming "Girlfriend Training
Program", and I'm just waiting for the guy to finish editing
it.

(It should be ready in about one week, but until then, I thought
I'd write a quick newsletter just to let you know that I'm still
alive and kicking.)

I've been going out a LOT these days, and have been teaching
some of my friends (and girlfriends) how to be more successful
with women.

One of the biggest problems that I see with most guys is that
they do things that virtually GUARANTEE that they will end up
in the "just friends" category.

Some of my friends do VERY well on the initial approach - they're
funny, charming, clever - you name it.

And they SHOULD be getting women, but they aren't.

The conversations don't actually GO ANYWHERE... they sort of
"die on the operating table".

And I know that MANY of you are able to approach women, get
them laughing, and even get them attracted to you. But you don't
actually take her home at the end of the night...

Why?

ESCALATION.

When you get a girl attracted to you, you MUST ESCALATE things
to a SEXUAL level.

Not only do you need to take things to a sexual level, but you
need to do this SMOOTHLY and without being the next cheesy,
over-eager horny guy of the night.

QUESTION:

What should you do when you say something GOOD and the girl
laughs out loud?

What do most guys do when they get a girl laughing?

They immediately pummel her with 4 or 5 more jokes, or put their
arm around her waist, or do something to try to amplify the
attraction.

But here's the thing. You don't want TOO MUCH ATTRACTION. Yes,
there is such a thing as "too much attraction" and it can ruin
an otherwise perfect pickup.

AGAIN - What should you do when you say something GOOD and the
girl laughs out loud?

The answer is YOU NEED TO PULL BACK.

I will explain -

Women are sensitive, and highly emotional creatures. When a
woman feels something, she feels it in her whole body. Women
feel things very intensely.

If you make a woman feel TOO MUCH TOO SOON, it will fry her
circuits out. You will be too emotionally intense for her.

This is why I pull back slightly whenever I get a good response.
I'm being CONSIDERATE of her emotional vulnerability.

For example, let's say that I tell her a joke and she starts
to laugh. I'm actually going to take a step back and allow her
some space to process the emotions that she's feeling.

So I'll take a small step back, you know... maybe I'll look
around the room while I wait for her to calm down again.

Once she calms down, she's going to stop and think of something
for us to talk about so that we can continue the conversation.


She WANTS to pull me back into a conversation with her so that
she can continue feeling attracted to me... women LOVE to feel
attraction.

So let me give you an example of a conversation with a woman:


Steph: "Hey... I like you too."

Woman: (blushing, giggling)

Steph: (Here I take a slight step back, to let her process)

Woman: "What's your name?"

Steph: (Taking her hand) "Stephane... It's a pleasure I'm sure..."

Woman: (giggles again, even though what I just said wasn't that
funny. You will notice that women giggle a lot because it's
a sign of submission) "My name is Roxy."

Steph: "Come here, I want to ask you something." (Here I am
taking the lead and bringing her in close to me so that I can
ask her a question. I also want her close to me so that I don't
end up in the "friends zone".

Woman: "Okay..."

Steph: "So Roxy, what's your gig?" (I love asking women that
question)

Woman: "My 'gig'? What do you mean?"

Steph: "Your gig... you know, what is the unique contribution
that you make in this world?" (I'm already qualifying her because
she has shown me that she's attracted - blushing and giggling
equals attraction)

Woman: (giggles some more, blushes) "Oh! My gig... well, I'm
an architect... and a pretty good painter... I like to go
ice-skating..."
(giggles some more, blushes)

Steph: (taking another SLIGHT step back, because she giggled
and blushed, and then moving back in a LITTLE closer than I
was the last time)


So let's analyze this.

Within 2 minutes, I'm in VERY close, and we're talking face-to-face.
Sometimes less than 2 minutes...

A couple of friends have watched me do this, and they were laughing
so hard they had to leave the room... I get in CLOSE and I do
it in a matter of SECONDS.

It's because I know how to ESCALATE -

I know WHEN to pull back slightly (when she blushes, giggles,
and gets emotional) and I know when to come in closer (once
she has calmed down and re-initiated the conversation with me).

And there you have it. It's easy to do once you know HOW.

(I made a small home video in which I demonstrate this "escalation
method" step-by-step, along with some other body language tips
and tricks. I'm going to include it as a bonus for the Girlfriend
Training Program.)

So anyway, this is one of the MAIN reasons that guys are ending
up in the "friend zone" with women.

If you talk to women from a SAFE DISTANCE, you are sending out
"FRIEND'S ONLY" signals.

The trick is to get in CLOSE so that you can be more INTIMATE.


You want to talk to her face-to-face, and you want to talk to
her SOFTLY so that it seems like you're already in bed together.

Once you are talking to her face-to-face, just pull back slightly
whenever she gets emotional, and then wait for her to pull you
back in.

Let's go over this again because it's VERY important:

I'm talking to her, face-to-face... she giggles, so I pull back
slightly, and keep talking... talking... talking... then I slowly
move back in a LITTLE TOO CLOSE... keep talking...

And WHAT do I talk about?

NOT MUCH!

We are just getting to know each other... it doesn't matter
WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it.

I can read a grocery list to a girl and get her wet... it's
all in the body language and tonality.

I hope this newsletter made sense because escalation is VERY
important, and I'm finding out that most guys are clueless about
this stuff.

It's not exactly taught in schools...

Let's answer a few questions before ending this newsletter -



***QUESTION***

Steph,

I am writing because I have a question about sexual anxiety,
I think. I have, on numerous occaisions been in bed with a girl,
making out, taking clothes off, and so forth and when it times
to actually have sex I cannot acheive a hard on. I think it
is beacuse I am nervous or anxious perhaps, even though I am
confident with myself as a person...Is this caused by
some fear-based emotions i have regarding intimacy/intercourse?


I am very attracted to these girls but sometimes I just don't
seem to get hard for whatever reason and then i think about
it too much and kind of psych myself out...any suggestions?

Thanks,

C.



>>>MY COMMENTS:

All sexual anxiety is the result of being too stuck in your
HEAD.

The trick is to get out of your head and into your BODY.

Focusing on your body will always take you back into the present,
into your "Now Moment".

It's very important that you quiet your mind and be in the Now
Moment, ESPECIALLY during sex.

After talking with people from all over the world who experience
performance anxiety, I now know what goes on in most of your
heads that is causing you to... go limp.

A lot of you are making sex into an Olympic Event.

Somewhere along the way, you got the idea that you need to be
the World's Greatest Lover.

But you don't.

The only thing you need to do is enjoy each other. It's not
a competition, and you don't need to PROVE ANYTHING.

Performance anxiety is exactly that - you are worried about
your performance.

Stop it.

I will let you in on a little secret -

I am not the world's greatest lover.

I don't even come CLOSE.

I'm actually pretty lazy...

But they TELL ME I'm the best they've ever had. Go figure...

What I do with women is simple. At the beginning of every relationship,
I will "fine-tune" a woman's body, to make it so that she can
experience multiple orgasms with very little effort on my part.

That way, when we're making love together, all I have to do
is sit back and focus on my own pleasure. She'll have orgasm
after orgasm while I'm... just enjoying watching and feeling
her.

Once you "fine-tune the Harley" you can ride it forever.

I'm just glad that my days of going down on women for HOURS
at a time just so they can have one or two little orgasms are
finally over. No more "lock jaw" and no more wondering if she's
satisfied.

So there's a nice little "squirt commercial" for you -

http://www.ideagasms.com/content.jsp?c=squirting_orgasms

Thanks for your question.



***QUESTION***

Hey Stephane!

Are women who flirt a lot very insecure about themselves and
need validation? I find it very hard to sense when someone is
being flirtatious and manipulative and when someone is being
genuinely playful and sincere.

Thank you,
P.



>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yes, a lot of women flirt because they are trying to validate
themselves. They're insecure about their overall attractiveness,
so they go out and try to get as much attention from guys as
they can to make up for it.

An extreme version of this kind of woman is what psychiatrists
call "Histrionic Personality Disorder". These are women who
dress and act very provocatively and take it to ridiculous lengths.

At the core of this imbalance is usually a 2nd Chakra issue,
where the woman depends on external-validation because she doesn't
know how to give it to herself.

Her core belief is that she is "not enough" (or inadequate),
so she goes out night after night to try to prove to herself
that she is... loveable.

Of course, another word for this is "cock tease".

So how do we deal with a "cock tease"?

I like to call them on it, as in, "Are you trying to use your
sexuality to manipulate me? It's not working..."

I said those exact words to a woman once and she got pretty
defensive. But defensiveness just means I'm right.

The next day, I talked to our mutual friend, and she asked me
what I did to her friend to make her so attracted to me!

I said, "She's attracted to any guy that she cannot manipulate,
just like all women."

I'm so glad that I know this stuff...

Anyway, you asked me how to tell if a woman is sincerely flirting
because she's legitimately attracted to you.

If you are unsure if her flirtation is real or not, JUST ASK
HER.

"Are you flirting with me?"

And notice how she responds.

A sincere girl will usually BLUSH when you ask her this, whereas
a manipulator will probably get defensive.

If you're still not sure after that, try ESCALATING.

Thanks for your question.



***QUESTION***

Hey Steph,

I'm 18 and I find it very awkward when i chat up someone who
is a lot older than me, like mid 20's. It's not so much awkward
but intimidating. I can easily approach women in my age group,
but when I see someone a little bit older I shy away. What are
your thoughts?

Thanks,
K.



>>>MY COMMENTS:

To me, there are two main reasons why an 18 year old guy might
be too shy to talk to older women in their twenties -

1. You are still stuck in the material world, and therefore
you think AGE MATTERS. It doesn't. She's just a soul in human
clothing, just like you are. How old do you think her soul is?
So what's a few years difference going to make in the grand
scheme of things?

2. You will probably fail to attract an older women regardless
of this, and you know it.

Women don't usually date younger guys because the primary thing
a woman wants is a TEACHER.

So what is an 18 year old KID going to teach her?

Probably not much!

Hey, I know I'm generalizing, but it's just a fact that most
18 year old guys aren't going to teach a woman very much about
her body, heart, and soul.

Women tend to go for guys that are at least a few years older
so that they can learn from him.

Men are dominant and women are submissive. At least that's the
way it should be if a couple wants to feel gut-level attraction
for each other over the long term.

Now, for a woman to SUBMIT and follow a man's lead, he needs
to earn her respect. He needs to challenge her. He needs to
bring her past her comfort levels, a little each day. He needs
to sexualy satisfy her. He needs to understand her emotions
and deal with them appropriately. He needs a rock-solid love
based frame.

He needs to be COMFORTABLE WITH POWER AND LEADERSHIP.

If YOU were a 25 year old woman looking for a new boyfriend,
would YOU date an 18 year old who just learned how to play with
his pecker?

Didn't think so.

Now, I know that you're on this path to begin with. You're one
of those rare men who actually take the time to learn about
dating, sex, and relationships.

Once you get this area of your life handled, once you know how
to be a "real man" (Yin/Yang energy mastery) an interesting
thing is going to happen -

You're going to become Universally Attractive to women.

THEN it won't matter if she is 18 or if she is 25 of if she's
fifty. It won't matter because you'll know how to INSTINCTIVELY
handle yourself around women.

The Girlfriend Training Program should be a damn good start.


http://www.ideagasms.com/content.jsp?c=TheGTP

Speaking of which, I still have some work to do... See you in
a week.

Be well,
Stephane

The only problem is that she lives in another village a few miles out of town, she normally has to leave with her friends so they can split a taxi, it comes to about £30 I think. I live in the town itself, so I normally just walk home.

I'm just thinking about what she would do the next day and that would be a major reason for her not coming home with me...It's annoying because she always has to go at like the height of our passion, when her friends go too. It sucks.

Come to think of it, your situation does sound familiar to one of my friends, but I doubt it. Or, if I'm going to use a brilliant chat up line; "Have you ever prayed to God? If so, we've met."



My statement was actually quite general and sweeping. I was refering to an ex and a nearly was rather than just one normal person. The ex dumped me after a week or two due to not being able to settle down with just one guy, she's now a manipulative cow who goes through boyfriends like they're traffic lights. Seh went from innocent nice girl to "I'm going to use everyone" girl and now expects me to comfort her when her life's shit. Fat chance.

The nearly was has changed a lot, and considering past experiances I'm blaming myself, and is really clingy with their current boyfriend and has decided to cut ties with all her friends. If I'd havep lucked up the courage to ask her out, she'd apparently have gone out with me, but I was my ever unconfident self and just let it go.

Fortunately my love life is pretty good though, bar the whole, liking someone who's in a long term relationship and not being able to stop thinking of them. But hey, that's life right? I mean we've all fallen for psychos, emo's, manipulative cows and people in long term relationships. Right?

You're putting too many illusory obstacles in the way, mate. Why should logistics deprive her of a potentially amazing night with you? I'm sure she could get into work the next day. It's all worth it.

YEAH! WHY WOULDN'T SHE! YAYA!

We have our own Neil Strauss!

i have to write this.

As it's 2.09am, on a Fri night. And i've had a few beers.

They say whatever goes around comes around. Tonight that is true!

Ok.

I split up with a gf 2 weeks ago. I was upset for a bit, but soon realised she was an idiot and treated me bad. SO many times over the past 6 months i was going to dump her anyway. Anyway she got in there first and dumped me. She was fit, but no personality.

A friend reminded me that a fit friend of ours from Uni moved down here. I totally forgot about her, so gave her a few messages. She seemed really keen and wanted to meet. So we met tonight. She is fit as, half russian, and wants to meet again tomorrow night.

Anyway, tonight we are having a great laugh, and guess who we bump into, the ex and her mates

cue some jealous looks, and a few derisory text messages from her mates! i dont want the ex any more, this new 1 is awesome, so far, plus i've known her all through uni but never bothered with her as i was too busy with university football and being a t_wat.

all i can say is hehehehehehe

thanks for reading! if you have that is

night

anyway, when relationships are over it's all about getting your own back

I'm glad I didn't come on here last night.

So, last night me and Becky bumped into each other in the club we were in and she was being funny with me all night untill I was at the bar and she just came over and said something like "Andy, I'm kinda seeing someone."...

I was really confused by this but just a little bit upset, I'm going to post a transcript of all our recent text messages shortly and I'd like to know HOW I MISINTERPRETED EVERYTHING EVER! It wasn't going to be anything special clearly, and she was still really nice and actually made me feel pretty good at times, but overall I was just upset and pissed off at myself for misinterpret every signal I've ever been given in my life.

But, I did wake up this morning to a lovely text from the girl I had a great connection with last week. So, that was pretty nice.

I'll try and post the texts and I'd like to know how wrong I was.

HBAndy,
Shes is trying to make you try and prove how much you want her, for the attention.
ignore her, and things will become clearer.

Nah, she isn't, I feel like I was just wrong about how I read every situation. It was my own doing. But, reading back through our encounters and our contact via text and what not, I couldn't have been that wrong.

I really couldn't.

Anyway, lets hope the other girl is out tonight.

Well, my my, how things change...

Tomorrow I'm going on a date with the other girl. !!!!!!WHA!!!!



I'm looking forward to it and it could be interesting...So now lets all forget about the other girl and concentrate on this new girl.

FOCUS PEEPS FOCUS!

Here's one...

This girl started at work, and she's awesome. We get on dead well and I thought maybe she liked me. Then remembered I'm the worst person in the world for interpreting signals correctly and when I like someone my mind kind of goes overboard.

Anyway, then she's making a very big point of telling me "I don't just go around with any lads, only ones who are nice" when I didn't even ask, telling me she's coming out on a night out with us lot from work and "you'd better be coming" and making me go to McDonals after work with her (which didn't actually happen.... eithe rbecause she was joking, or thought I didn't want to because I laughed it off thinking she was joking).

So I go out Friday night, and see my boss who's very, very drunk. Somehow he knows I fancy the pants off this girl (it's not exactly hard to figure out I suppose), and my mate holds me back, why he takes me phone to "put her number in my phonebook". Then when he starst giggling, I realise he sent her a text from my phone.

I have no diea what this text said (sure I could look in my outbox, but I'd had a few), so panicking, immediately sent one saying "sorry that was Chris, he's drunk". Then I realsie I CAN look in my outbox and all it says is "Hi, this is Jig". She's blatantly going to think I fancy her (which, to be fair, I do) and sit there begging for her phone number from my boss.

And now I have to go to work with her on Monday.

On the bright side, she's leaving soon so the embarassment will be short-lived.

Also that night I met this girl in a club who I kind of recognised, and got chatting. Just thought she was being friendly until I realised she kept making conversation with me. I can't remember much fo what was said, but I think I for some reason devloped an ungodly amount of confidence and told ehr she was gorgeous and all that.

Before I left I asked for a kiss, and got two pecks but no 'proper kiss' because she thought I'd never talk to her again or something (I was a bit tipsy), so SHE gave ME her number and did the whole "bet you won't text me" thing. So I woke up and texted her (after playing it oh-so cool for a few hours). Got a reply about 20 minutes after. So I replied, and no text back from her since.

I can't figure out women. It was so much easier when I just had a girlfriend.



Nice one!

well guess i'll be the second disaster story, i was supposed to spending the day with, so i text saying what time shall i meet u, the reply was sorry im going to a forest, this had been planned for over a week and she wouldnt have even bothered telling if i hadnt asked, and i told her that and apparently im selfish, and she has other friends, im sorry but cancelling at no notice is not me being selfish its her obviously feeling she has a better offer,

and in the last 2 minutes, its got even stranger, she just text saying how much are the flights for us im going to book them

so confused!!

Fuck ^^that^^, your answers lies under 'O' in 'The A-Z of Manliness'. Word.

Well, it went perfect. We get on amazingly well, time sped by and she only had to go because she had prior arrangements this evening. We get on so well and just have a connection.

The only problem is, I did the "Would you like to kiss me?" thing, and she said yes, but then stopped herself and said "I don't know if I can offer you more than friends though." So, I pulled away and said I understood as we are both going to Uni in a few weeks.

We are going to see each other again very soon, and there's still a possibility that something could happen, but I'm not even all that bothered (of course I'd like it, but we have an amazing time together anyway), and respect her decision, but I'd still like something with her along the way if possible.

What are you doing? "would you like ot kiss me?"?! how old are you?

It's in a book called "The Game", it's where you get the woman to make the commitment and the decision rather than the man lechering over the woman.

It's meant to work, but...didn't.

If being yourself doesnt get the girl then dont bother.

I think you're just trying to find a girlfriend, rather than trying to find the right girlfriend. I also think you'rwe going a bit fast and stuff, and trying to read and anticipate things before they happen. This wont work! take it easy but seem interested, and play it cool at the start.

I was completely myself all day long, that's how we got on so well together, I shared more with her in one day than I've shared with many "friends" over a number of years. And she did exactly the same.

How did you go from two birds to no birds in two days?

It's quite a feat isn't it?

We were talking and she was saying about the risk of getting with someone would not be worth it, but there is an undeniable something between us, so I'm sure the more we see each other the more we'll get closer and closer and she'll probably find it harder and harder to stop herself. We've pretty much arranged something for the next time we are both free, which is quite often.

Andy, having been converted by the book myself, i LOVE when the "Would you like to Kiss me" line comes up, or the generic palm reading (which i alway get luck with).

One piece of advice to you however would be check page 178 IIRC in the book, I think thats teh area which covers crossing "The Fline".

The Friend - line is a hard road as your now aware of. Hey, if you wanted to bed her, sure you could have, but seen as your going for the right Girlfriend a opposed to what fanny-balls up their is saying, just stick in, the books a bible remember, it'll come good for you eventually. (Or you'll turn gay).

I have an issue.

I'm going out with this girl. We have so much fun together, and I absolutely adore her, and she says she feels the same. But we fall out quite a lot over little things which all culminated in a big blowout last night. I shall explain:

I asked her at about 2:00 yesterday if she wanted to come over for the rest of the day, mentioning something about the England match at 5. She said she could only come for a couple of hours because she was seeing her friend at 5. So I arranged to go and watch the match with some of my friends.

By 5, she was still at mine as her friend hadn't rung up yet to say she was back from a wedding. But I've arranged to meet my friends at 5, so I say I need to be going but I'll walk her back to hers before hopping on my bike and meeting my friends (late.)

I do so, and I'm later at my friend's house, talking to her on MSN after the match. By this time, she's finally met up with her friend, who has the hots for one of my friends and they both seem to enjoy spending time with my friends, so they want to meet up with all of us. None of them really want to, so I say I'd come and see them on my own later. She gets all angry and has a go at me, saying she doesn't want me on my own as it's awkward for her friend. I explain to her that nobody really wants to but I would try and convince them. She's fed up now, but what can I do? I'm not allowed to go on my own, but they don't want to.

She then says "can you hurry up, Marcus wants to meet up and I need to tell him whether I can come or not." Now, Marcus is a fucking prune. He's about four years older than her and is a total and utter perv who tries to use his olderness and his car to get some cunt (apparently "he's not like that" when I've told her this, despite the fact that he's gotten her drunk and kissed her. While we've been going out. Now what am I meant to do? I make my friends come out, say I'll be there at about 8:30. I'm aware she'll be a pissy little bitch to me, but I can't be bothered with any more arguing and don't want to make things worse.

8.30, we're still on our way (about one minute late, actually, I call her to apologize about being one minute late and she's FURIOUS) when one of my friends just stops and says "I can't be bothered with this, can we just invite them back to mine?" It's about a ten-minute walk from where we're meeting them. I phone to ask her if she wants to, I'll tell her I'll take her there but I'll still meet her if she doesn't want to go, she's doubly furious and hangs up. I go and find her to apologize (I really need to stand up for myself, but I really can't be bothered arguing.

I find her, she's walking off in a huff, I ask her what more I could have done for her tonight, she can't answer, I ask her what she wants me to do now, she can't answer, I ask what I can do to fix it, she can't answer, and we have this big circular argument in the street ending in one almighty slap for me.

Later we get to talking on MSN, she's fed up with all the arguing but I'm "still the best thing in her life," and she says she's angry because apparently I picked football and my mates over her (when actually she picked both her mate and my mates over me), and she thinks I've cheated on her at a party (I actually got really drunk and spent the night telling everyone who'd listen about my amazing girlfriend that I adore.

But yeah, we haven't spoken today and she's told me she's busy (she isn't) for the next two days. We go back to school on Wednesday, and we're in a right shit...any advice?

(Sorry about the essay...)

Your wrong on that one mate.

You DID chose football over her. It's not like you were going to the actual match, it wouldn't have cost you any money to stay with her. Besides, no doubt you've ditched your mates before and it'll no doubt happen again, so personally I say your in the wrong.

Just apologise and live life. Lovers tiff and all that.

Your wrong on that one mate.

You DID chose football over her. It's not like you were going to the actual match, it wouldn't have cost you any money to stay with her. Besides, no doubt you've ditched your mates before and it'll no doubt happen again, so personally I say your in the wrong.

Just apologise and live life. Lovers tiff and all that.

I'm not a fan of utilising the book but it does help with getting over the hump of a certain situation one might find themselves in.

It was a great day overall and I can't wait to see her again, she even said tomorrow but we're both a bit busy, so I'll probably try and hook something up for Tuesday even though I have literally no money.

It's frustrating because effectively it's pointless, we are both going to Uni in 4 weeks and there's nothing which we want to get started before we go, but I also see it as living for the moment and taking the risk of that short timespan we are both trapped in and putting a positive spin on it, by having a great last few weeks before we go. It's dangerous because we could become too attached and make it worse for ourselves, but when 5 hours with one person flies by and feels like 10 minutes then it's something which I feel needs to be explored.

If you were not spot on sir id be offended. I like to think i have SOME kind of standards.....

I have a bit of a situation in my workplace at the moment. I just found out that this girl who works in another department and who I have hardly ever seen fancies me. This girl knows that I know she likes me because a mate told me, but I think she is really embarrassed now and whenever she see's me goes bright red. I dont see this girl often, only now and again in the building, but I dont know how to approach the situation, also she is the same age as me(19)

Any help is appreciated because I am terrible at this type of thing.