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PowerButchi
Find "Flair for the Old".
Shane O' Mac Version 2
QUOTE (fruitcorner @ Feb 17 2010, 23:06) *
So is this the roster? Did I read somewhere that the other half of the roster will be guys already on WWE tv? Did this mean other guys, possibly Vance, Baretta, Croft, Yoshi etc or the mentors?

The NXT roster is the list of names I mentioned before, 8 rookies and 8 pros, making it a roster of 16. Initially I thought it was small, but thinking about it the active wrestlers on ECW's roster probably amounted to less than 16, and they only have about 50 minutes of airtime to fill a week. Also need to bear in mind that NXT is being run in seasons, so guys like Kaval are probably being saved for then, as WWE probably wants a stand-out developmental star in each season to help ensure the show's success.
PowerButchi
That Skip Sheffield has a cracking look.
Shane O' Mac Version 2
QUOTE (ButchReedMark @ Feb 18 2010, 1:59) *
That Skip Sheffield has a cracking look.

Tough Enough 4's Ryan Reeves. Yeah, always had a great look, and has definitely worked his way up through the developmentals since being in that contest.
King Pitcos
QUOTE (fruitcorner @ Feb 17 2010, 13:36) *
No Kaval then, not surprised. I still think WWE won't do a thing with him- and he will quietly be released at some point this year.

It makes no sense for WWE to throw all of their top prospects into the first batch. What would they do for the "second season" in a few months if everyone good was already called up?
PowerButchi
Or it was a horrible flop and made everyone involved look awful.
Cobra1000
I think I'll be supporting the Christian/Heath Slater pairing with an eye on The Miz/Daniel Bryan. I'm surprised that the mentors are all pretty big stars (minus Carlito) so I'm pleased there. It'll be real interesting to see if the pro's are in character or just there to give advice etc.

Strange not to see Kaval in there, but you know I suppose they shouldn't throw all the big guns out just yet, and I'm sure he is the one person in FCW that probably could make a bigger impact in WWE by not being in NXT and just debuting at some stage.

I think the most pleased person in all of this should be Carlito, surely this secures his always ropey job-status for at least a few months?

Also does anyone know how long NXT seasons are set to last?
King Pitcos
QUOTE (Cobra1000 @ Feb 17 2010, 16:23) *
I think the most pleased person in all of this should be Carlito, surely this secures his always ropey job-status for at least a few months?

Carlito's job status is only ropey on the basis of him always him wanting to leave and WWE always telling him not to.
goe


Teedy Kay
QUOTE (goe @ Feb 17 2010, 18:05) *


tremendous
King Pitcos
QUOTE (Shane O' Mac Version 2 @ Feb 17 2010, 15:38) *
QUOTE (ButchReedMark @ Feb 18 2010, 1:59) *
That Skip Sheffield has a cracking look.

Tough Enough 4's Ryan Reeves. Yeah, always had a great look, and has definitely worked his way up through the developmentals since being in that contest.

Must be a bit sad for him to have his Tough Enough 4 rival Miz being one of the mentors though. I bet he thought fuck all of Miz as a wrestler when they were in the competition.
PunkStep
QUOTE (crazyshady @ Feb 17 2010, 14:34) *
QUOTE (fruitcorner @ Feb 17 2010, 13:36) *
QUOTE (Dillkid @ Feb 17 2010, 9:18) *
If only they had given Shelton Benjamin some mic skills before debuting...

This isn't one of your card trading games you probably play during break-time at school, you can't just 'give' someone mic skills. If only they gave John Cena technical wrestling skills, I bet you also wonder.

I am looking forward to this, if done similar to TUF. They all share the same house, Bubba Poon gets a bit vexed when Wade eats all the ice cream, they have a bit of a fight then make up after. In all seriousness though, this could be decent tv- even though it's a worked attempt at something that is supposed to be real (which is the same as wrestling anyway). And the potential conflicts between Miz & Poon could provide the best talking moments. Hell, this show is surely ten times better than a drab 'C-roster' show like ECW was. Something a bit different.

No Kaval then, not surprised. I still think WWE won't do a thing with him- and he will quietly be released at some point this year.

So is this the roster? Did I read somewhere that the other half of the roster will be guys already on WWE tv? Did this mean other guys, possibly Vance, Baretta, Croft, Yoshi etc or the mentors?


Why say things like that? And how the hell would we know what you have or haven't read? Go and give yourself a shake.

Easy, tiger. I read on one of the many NXT threads on here that there would be around 8 'rookies' (ie from FCW) and 8 guys already on tv. A lot of the speculation was that the 8 already on tv would be lower-card workers such as those on ECW. But as it's been revealed there are 8 rookies and 8 mentors, so I was wondering if this would be it Will it just be 8 rookies wrestling against each other, will they wrestle their mentors, etc.

QUOTE (Pityinthecityofsin)
QUOTE ((fruitcorner @ Feb 17 2010 @ 13:36))

No Kaval then, not surprised. I still think WWE won't do a thing with him- and he will quietly be released at some point this year.

It makes no sense for WWE to throw all of their top prospects into the first batch. What would they do for the "second season" in a few months if everyone good was already called up?

True, which will explain why a couple of guys expected to make the cut haven't been included- Joe Hennig being one name thrown around. But I'm not sure they will end up using Kaval at all. How long are the seasons going to last, or is that unknown at this point?
Dillkid
QUOTE (goe @ Feb 17 2010, 18:05) *

Gold thumbs-up.gif

Is there going to be actual matches taped before Smackdown, or is the only action going to be "training" in the FCW ring or in that dirty old ring in Stamford that Undertaker beat up David Flair in '02?
The Dart
QUOTE (fruitcorner @ Feb 17 2010, 18:44) *
How long are the seasons going to last, or is that unknown at this point?


16 weeks.


I hope there are live matches too. They keep calling it a "live event/reality show", which makes me think there will be matches.

Perhaps at the end of the 16 weeks they all have matches, and we choose who goes onto the main roster and who doesn't.

I think they said there'd be 3 seasons a year...16 weeks each. I guess the other 4 weeks of the year will probably be Best Ofs.
Dillkid
QUOTE (The Dart @ Feb 17 2010, 20:40) *
QUOTE (fruitcorner @ Feb 17 2010, 18:44) *
How long are the seasons going to last, or is that unknown at this point?


16 weeks.


I hope there are live matches too. They keep calling it a "live event/reality show", which makes me think there will be matches.

Perhaps at the end of the 16 weeks they all have matches, and we choose who goes onto the main roster and who doesn't.

I think they said there'd be 3 seasons are year...16 weeks each. I guess the other 4 weeks of the year will probably be Best Ofs.

They will run out of new talent and the concept will end confused.gif
Bear
looking at the pro/rookie match ups and watching the videos posted earlier in the thread a few things came to mind.
1. Wade Barrett sounded ok on commentary and should do well with Jericho.
2. Skip Sheffields gimmick is a bit cheesy but he could still do well.
3. Darren Young - when I see this guy I think of Orlando Jordan.
4. I would presume that there will be matches rookie v mentor and rookie v rookie where the mentors have a feud and use the rookie to fight for them.
Ron Simmons
It'll be interesting to see who decides what wrestlers make it onto the main roster, and how that's decided. It's certainly a concept with potential, and this is one of the occasions where I hope they replay these "hype" videos on Smackdown and RAW. The ECW audience alone just won't cut it if they're looking for a ratings boost. If this is done correctly I could see this show doing very well.
Shane O' Mac Version 2
QUOTE (Pityinthecityofsin @ Feb 18 2010, 5:01) *
QUOTE (Shane O' Mac Version 2 @ Feb 17 2010, 15:38) *
QUOTE (ButchReedMark @ Feb 18 2010, 1:59) *
That Skip Sheffield has a cracking look.

Tough Enough 4's Ryan Reeves. Yeah, always had a great look, and has definitely worked his way up through the developmentals since being in that contest.

Must be a bit sad for him to have his Tough Enough 4 rival Miz being one of the mentors though. I bet he thought fuck all of Miz as a wrestler when they were in the competition.

I don't know about that. Miz was hated by the other WWE wrestlers for being an outsider due to both his MTV background and Tough Enough. When it comes to Tough Enough, Miz and Reeves were in the same boat, and I think the guys in the competition respected each other because they all went through the same process together. I'm pretty Miz was well liked as an underdog babyface then, although the actual winner Daniel Puder had a lot of heat with fellow competitors and WWE Superstars.
KRISProdigy
QUOTE (Bear @ Feb 17 2010, 21:35) *
looking at the pro/rookie match ups and watching the videos posted earlier in the thread a few things came to mind.
1. Wade Barrett sounded ok on commentary and should do well with Jericho.
2. Skip Sheffields gimmick is a bit cheesy but he could still do well.
3. Darren Young - when I see this guy I think of Orlando Jordan.
4. I would presume that there will be matches rookie v mentor and rookie v rookie where the mentors have a feud and use the rookie to fight for them.


Wade Barrett did commentary? Stu's a great guy ad really pleased that he has this break.
King Pitcos
Miz has put up a blog on the WWE Universe site which is surely designed to get the fappers crying with rage (although he must have written it in response to a load of fappers already crying with rage):

QUOTE
There has been a lot of controversy this week about me mentoring Daniel Bryan on WWE's new show, WWE NXT.

I've read a lot of interviews, blogs, ect. about the matter and they all seem to be asking the same thing. "Why is The Miz mentoring Daniel Bryan when Daniel Bryan has wrestled all over the world for 10 years plus?"

It's come to my knowledge that some members of the WWE Universe think they know everything about WWE and what it takes to be a WWE Superstar. They think that if a guy does well in the independent minor leagues, then all of a sudden he should be in the WWE.

They think that if a guy can main event in front of a hundred people at a bingo hall, then he's ready to main event at WrestleMania. Just because fans on the Internet say you’re ready doesn't mean you really are.

Just because a fat guy with no teeth who sits in the front row, buys your T-shirt and says you're the king of wrestling, doesn't mean you really are.

What the WWE Universe doesn't understand is there is so much more then I can describe in a single blog involved in being successful in the WWE.

My job is to make Daniel Bryan a star in the WWE, because let's face it, if you look at a picture of him right now, do you think STAR?

No, Daniel Bryan looks like my accountant ... ordinary and bland.

Maybe if he had The Miz's charisma and look, he would have been in the WWE by now. Don't hate on me because it didn't take me a decade to get a WWE contract and go down in WWE history to be the first Superstar to win the United States Title and Unified Tag Team Titles.

Don't get me wrong, Daniel Bryan has all the talent in the world, but every wrestler has weaknesses. And that's what my job is, to find his weakness and make him the biggest star possible.

I just hope Daniel Bryan doesn't believe himself what these ignorant members of the WWE Universe believe about him, or WWE NXT is going to be a nightmare for him.

MIZ
The Cum Doctor
Don't have much issue with any of that, apart from the "he would have been in WWE by now" thing, since it's pretty well documented that Danielson could have been in WWE earlier had he really wanted to be there.
alexander
Yeah, fuck the fappers!

No-one on this forum has complained though. No one on the ROH board seemed that fussed.

It's almost as if everyone gets it.

Do you honestly not think that this blog is just a part of what they were always going to do?

LOL ROHbots~
The_BarbarIAN
I honestly love the fact that Danielson is now the understudy to the Miz. The Miz is man. I hope Danielson pays attention and listens to what The Miz says and maybe one day he'll be at the level of the Awesome One.
Merzbow
QUOTE
>The Miz mentoring the former Bryan Danielson - "Yeah, when I saw that, I was at the ECW taping, and I actually saw Miz. He didn't know either until he saw the graphic on the screen. That he was the "Pro" and Bryan Danielson was the student. I walked by and said, "Pssh, he knows more than you do." And that's pretty much what everyone thinks. It's gonna be interesting and I think that's the point of it."


A quote from Morrison in an interview with IGN.

Made me chuckle a little even though i do really rate the Miz and am looking forward to the pairing.
Blackson Jackson
TBF The Miz pairing makes sense. I think WWE realise Bubba Poon has got his wrestling down but feel he needs help with his character/mic skills and to get that across to a large audience. The Miz is probably RAW's best man on the mic just now (it's between him, Shawn Michaels, Vince McMahon and Bret Hart).
Philo_Vance
Colt Cabana's status update on Facebook:

'Just got the call to be on @WWENXT. Should be quite the learning experience.'

with a link to this picture:click

edit: yes, I know he's fucking about.
Ross
From Miz' WWE blog.

QUOTE
There has been a lot of controversy this week about me mentoring Daniel Bryan on WWE's new show, WWE NXT.

I've read a lot of interviews, blogs, ect. about the matter and they all seem to be asking the same thing. "Why is The Miz mentoring Daniel Bryan when Daniel Bryan has wrestled all over the world for 10 years plus?"

It's come to my knowledge that some members of the WWE Universe think they know everything about WWE and what it takes to be a WWE Superstar. They think that if a guy does well in the independent minor leagues, then all of a sudden he should be in the WWE.

They think that if a guy can main event in front of a hundred people at a bingo hall, then he's ready to main event at WrestleMania. Just because fans on the Internet say you’re ready doesn't mean you really are.

Just because a fat guy with no teeth who sits in the front row, buys your T-shirt and says you're the king of wrestling, doesn't mean you really are.

What the WWE Universe doesn't understand is there is so much more then I can describe in a single blog involved in being successful in the WWE.

My job is to make Daniel Bryan a star in the WWE, because let's face it, if you look at a picture of him right now, do you think STAR?

No, Daniel Bryan looks like my accountant ... ordinary and bland.

Maybe if he had The Miz's charisma and look, he would have been in the WWE by now. Don't hate on me because it didn't take me a decade to get a WWE contract and go down in WWE history to be the first Superstar to win the United States Title and Unified Tag Team Titles.

Don't get me wrong, Daniel Bryan has all the talent in the world, but every wrestler has weaknesses. And that's what my job is, to find his weakness and make him the biggest star possible.

I just hope Daniel Bryan doesn't believe himself what these ignorant members of the WWE Universe believe about him, or WWE NXT is going to be a nightmare for him.
Green
Fantastic stuff by Miz there.
Sixteen Degrees
The whole Miz-Danielson dynamic does have a lot of possibilities. If anything, it's got me wanting to watch next week, and I rarely watch WWE stuff (no Sky).
Magic M
QUOTE
No, Daniel Bryan looks like my accountant ... ordinary and bland.


Exactly what I thought when I saw him next to all the other muscle-bound, big haired, tattooed, Vince's wet dream, big green steroid boys.

This is going to be Gold...

Bryan "OK Mr Miz, yiou want to make me more commercial - what do you have in mind?"
Miz "Well Daniel I've decided that you need to be a little more "street" - a bit more "down with the kids"..."
Bryan "So what do you have in mind?"
Miz "You're going to be a street thug who grew up on the mean streets of chicago..."
Bryan "Go on..."
Miz "You'll spread a message of fighting against adversity..."
Bryan "Yes..."
Miz "And your new ring name will be...
Bryan "Oh dear god no!"
Miz: "BUBBA POON!"
goe
To be honest i think if Poon just cut about 20 pounds so that he didn't look so chunky he'd look the part. He's actually built like a brick shithouse for his height, he's just not that lean. Everybody looks great when their abs are showing. Nobody gave a shit about Johnny Nitro before he got the torso he's rocking these days (he sure as hell didn't always look like that).

Give him a nice shiny pair of new tights, let him keep his 'American Dragon' moniker and there you go! Unleash him on teh main eventz~!!!
Shane O' Mac Version 2
QUOTE (goe @ Feb 20 2010, 10:35) *
To be honest i think if Poon just cut about 20 pounds so that he didn't look so chunky he'd look the part. He's actually built like a brick shithouse for his height, he's just not that lean. Everybody looks great when their abs are showing. Nobody gave a shit about Johnny Nitro before he got the torso he's rocking these days (he sure as hell didn't always look like that).

Give him a nice shiny pair of new tights, let him keep his 'American Dragon' moniker and there you go! Unleash him on teh main eventz~!!!

Some people just don't have the genetics to cut weight like that though. I noticed that Poon got a haircut since his FCW days, but I still think it can be improved...anyone else picture him rocking a Miz-style do?
Magic M
Please please please can someone Photoshop that!!!
Swift89
William Regal has replaced MVP as Skip Sheffield's mentor.
goe
QUOTE (Swift89 @ Feb 20 2010, 11:30) *
William Regal has replaced MVP as Skip Sheffield's mentor.


Bloody hell, Sheffield will be thanking his lucky stars right now then. Or he should be.
MartinM
I absolutely love the Miz so this pairing doesn't really bother me, I've already stated why I think it's a good pairing.

The pairing that probably surprises me the most is Matt Hardy mentoring as in my opinion he's not great technically, his strikes are stiff as hell, his promo/mic work neds a LOT of work and unfortunately is where he is by riding the coat-tails of a more talented brother. Now he's back into tag division with someone who will make him look the stronger, more impressive partner.

Anyway back on track...I don't think it's going to shock many that Bryan Danielson will stand out as being impressive from the NXT "Rookies"...for those who wont know Danielson in WWE's audience, how good is it going to make The Miz look?
Arch Stanton
You guys do realise this is still pro-wrestling don't you? It is still a work, and the mentor/rookie pairings are all part of the work... I'm surprised to see that some people posting in here are taking the mentoring situation so seriously.
KJHenley
QUOTE (AmpedUp @ Feb 20 2010, 21:17) *
You guys do realise this is still pro-wrestling don't you? It is still a work, and the mentor/rookie pairings are all part of the work... I'm surprised to see that some people posting in here are taking the mentoring situation so seriously.


Its all relative though. When a young promising wrestler is put on the road with a veteran and wrestles them every night at house shows its so they can learn and get better. I would imagine these 'rookies' will be spending an awful lot of time with their 'mentors' and as such should be learning from them despite the worked nature of pro wrestling.
Kaz Hayashi
QUOTE (AmpedUp @ Feb 20 2010, 21:17) *
You guys do realise this is still pro-wrestling don't you? It is still a work, and the mentor/rookie pairings are all part of the work... I'm surprised to see that some people posting in here are taking the mentoring situation so seriously.




I think i got the jist of what pro-wrestling was around about 1988,


What do you mean exactly???? were having banter about a wrestling program, we are interested in how its going to pan out, we are getting involved with the story, thats the point in this forum. We are talking specifically about the mentoring system as that is the basis for the program and its currently pretty topical.

goe
I'd actually naturally assumed the mentoring system was at least semi-legit. Maybe i'm just naive. Or a 'mark'.
Dirty Eddie
QUOTE (Magic M @ Feb 20 2010, 11:20) *
Please please please can someone Photoshop that!!!



Shane O' Mac Version 2
Hahaha I love it!
King Pitcos
QUOTE (goe @ Feb 21 2010, 0:53) *
I'd actually naturally assumed the mentoring system was at least semi-legit.

Well, it is. At the very least, these are all WWE newcomers who are working with current WWE stars regularly. That's mentoring, by wrestling (or any other, really) standards.
goe
QUOTE (Pityinthecityofsin @ Feb 21 2010, 2:35) *
QUOTE (goe @ Feb 21 2010, 0:53) *
I'd actually naturally assumed the mentoring system was at least semi-legit.

Well, it is. At the very least, these are all WWE newcomers who are working with current WWE stars regularly. That's mentoring, by wrestling (or any other, really) standards.


See that's what i would have thought. I'd have been more surprised if the entire thing was a work, because, well, what's the point of pretending to teach guys how to be better workers when you could just do it for real lol.
Smegma Cake
I'm sure there is some actual mentoring going on. Having someone like Christian to shadow could be quite a good thing. Danielson might have been on the circuit for years and years, but even The Miz will show him how things are done while on the road. All those silly rules the WWE place on their talent.

I'm guessing WWE took this course of action because they have had a lot of talented guys and gals in the developmentals, and they've had to release a fair few for stupid reasons. Having established guys keep them out of trouble, show them the good things to do to make it in the company could be quite good.

The Miz clearly has come a long way since his WWE debut, and I'm sure the big wigs upstairs see him as a hard working guy. Who knows, having the rookies, especially Danielson around the 'pros', he could teach Miz and the others a few things. Works both ways I think.
Dynamite Duane
Shame Colt Cobana was just larking about, he would have been excellent TV.
Arch Stanton
QUOTE (Dynamite Duane @ Feb 21 2010, 18:34) *
Shame Colt Cobana was just larking about, he would have been excellent TV.

Colt would have been a perfect character for this sort of thing. Who knows, if the concept takes off and they need to find decent 'rookies' for future series, maybe guys like Colt will get another chance.
andrew "the ref" coyne
One thing I like about this is that by creating these relationships, WWE are potentially building up decent rivalries and partnerships which could add a interesting dynamic to when some of these guys make it to RAW and Smackdown. I am of course going down the presumption that this show will be more "shoot" than "work."

Below are some random examples:

-Wade Barrett with Chris Jericho. Cocky veteran who undermines his hardworking rookie fued.

-Justin Gabriel with Matt Hardy. Blossoming bromance that turns into a "dream come true" tag team title win.

-Skip Sheffield with Regal. Hard working rookie turned into vicious bastard by Regal.

-Michael Tarver with Carlito. Talented rookie constantly outshines his own mentor who jealously tries to fuck him over.

-Daniel Bryan with The Miz.
Clash of personalities that results in Daniel Bryan coming to Raw as the NXT top rookie and goes on to enter a US title fued with The Miz.

-Heath Slater with Christian.
Bromance type relationship that eventually results in a heel turn by Christian (I can hope).

-Darren Young with C.M. Punk. CM Punk to constantly talk down to his rookie, only to be pleasantly surprised by how good he is.

-David Otunga with R-Truth. Relationship where by R-Truth learns something about himself and how much harder he too should be working to succeed in WWE.

I am really excited by this show. I think creatively its going to make some good television, which will lead to several potentially good and more 3 dimensional relationships in the future.
Ron Simmons
QUOTE (andrew @ Feb 21 2010, 20:15) *
One thing I like about this is that by creating these relationships, WWE are potentially building up decent rivalries and partnerships which could add a interesting dynamic to when some of these guys make it to RAW and Smackdown. I am of course going down the presumption that this show will be more "shoot" than "work."

Below are some random examples:

-Wade Barrett with Chris Jericho. Cocky veteran who undermines his hardworking rookie fued.

-Justin Gabriel with Matt Hardy. Blossoming bromance that turns into a "dream come true" tag team title win.

-Skip Sheffield with Regal. Hard working rookie turned into vicious bastard by Regal.

-Michael Tarver with Carlito. Talented rookie constantly outshines his own mentor who jealously tries to fuck him over.

-Daniel Bryan with The Miz.
Clash of personalities that results in Daniel Bryan coming to Raw as the NXT top rookie and goes on to enter a US title fued with The Miz.

-Heath Slater with Christian.
Bromance type relationship that eventually results in a heel turn by Christian (I can hope).

-Darren Young with C.M. Punk. CM Punk to constantly talk down to his rookie, only to be pleasantly surprised by how good he is.

-David Otunga with R-Truth. Relationship where by R-Truth learns something about himself and how much harder he too should be working to succeed in WWE.

I am really excited by this show. I think creatively its going to make some good television, which will lead to several potentially good and more 3 dimensional relationships in the future.

Some of these ideas get me seriously excited about the potential of the show. My main worry is the "characters" WWE seems to have created for each individual on WWE.com, and the gimmick Skip Sheffield works in FCW. I suspect it'll be more scripted than not, and each show will be hit and miss depending on how much comedy they'll insert. I'd imagine the Regal/Sheffield partnership is aimed at having a comic clash in personalities. Skip will be the clueless cowboy, and Regal the grumpy, fed up mentor. Kind of like Regal/Eugene, or Regal/Burchill (during the 'pirate' phase).

That said, I may be wrong, and even if I'm not the potential is still there for a very fun show. This show really does have bags of potential, and I hope WWE hype it to the heavens on RAW tomorrow, and hit the ground running with a great debut show to keep the audience hooked. If the show's good I believe it has the potential to beat Smackdown in the ratings.
JPC
I'm not going to read the full thread, but on the WWE website, in the NXT section, they have acknowledged the uproar from the fans about the Miz/Bryan pairing and The Miz has posted a blog about it.

QUOTE
PROBLEM PAIR?

No pairing of WWE NXT Pros and Rookies has received more scrutiny by the WWE Universe than Daniel Bryan and his mentor, United States Champion The Miz. What does Miz have to say about his new protege? Read his blog now..


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