If JLM agrees to this you should document it day by day on here. With track records of your victories and defeats. It could be the best thread of the year.

Fuck I want this, I just bought a new SansAmp, guess Ill have to wait until next week for my pay cheque BALLS.

There has to be a montage video set to Rush chronicling his progress though....

Got it last night at 00:01 from asda, was £27, played it for a few hours finished it like 4 times, I beat Seth in the 1st round and thought that was piss easy then he kicked my arse once he powered up.

My left thumb has a nice big blister!!! I just cant use the stick to do fireballs and the like.

Havent played a Street Fighter game before. I'm getting my arse handed to me on the Easiest difficulty ;(

Unlocked everyone but Seth now, in conjunction with the man they call Whinehouse. I'll do it eventually but he's low priority because nobody should play as the boss in these games anyway. Akuma is as good as you'd expect, though he still has pathetic defense to balance him out. Gouken is unorthodox but could be devastating in the right hands. Hadoukens at different heights, a charging strike that passes through projectiles and the Shin Shoryuken from third strike as his Ultra. good stuff.

I'm sucking balls at this game, unfortunatly.

The lame training mode does not help matters.

Playing this online is a dream Fight League anyone?

In command list, what dos the red dot mean? I take it the direction of the D-Pad?

And for example, when it has two D-Pad commands in a row, followed by three punches in a row (see Ken special) how am I performing this in reality?

I was thinking along those lines too but I really wouldn't be the best one to organize it lol

I’m currently playing as Chun-Li and Seth is destroying me, the first round is easy but after that he goes into a God like frenzy. I am lucky if I can get him past half of his health bar. This is on easy difficulty as well .

Apart from Seth the only other characters to give me any trouble so far are Zangief and Abel, projectiles and playing cat and mouse with these grab happy characters is my path to victory against them.

Now back to Seth for another beatdown

Seth is beaten with perseverance. Wait until you want to unlock Akuma and Gouken. We had to beat him without losing a continue, which means Seth has to go down at the first attempt. When you do get to this, a word of advice, Seth is Sagat's bitch. Seriously, Whinehouse as Sagat vs Seth is a one sided affair, and it's not the guy with the washing machine in his gut who's winning.

The problem is that, to unlock people, you have to beat him with designated characters. I beat him with Sakura, but it took some work because she's a good character but has horribly low priority and gets totally stuffed by most of Seth's offense.

Oh yeah, and Akuma is tremendous. Because of revenge and super bar being separated, you can have two different Raging Demons ready to unleash at once. Absolutely deadly. The Ultra version is mental.

Giving up on Street Fighter for tonight, I can't get it to work online properly. Constantly freezing. Very annoying.

I feel like half a man not being able to beat Seth, seriously have tried about 50 times

I've got the game been playing as Ryu on Arcade mode on medium.

God I suck at the game badly

I've yet to beat anyone in less that 5 attempts. I'm only upto E.Honda at the moment (if it goes in some order?) and i'm on like my 10th go at him

Still not sure how to pull off these combo moves and the like yet, struggling badly

Finally defeated Seth with Chun-Li (On easy mind), what an absolutely cheap bastard he is, Amazing sense of achievement in beating him though, I’m loving this. I'm not having much difficulty with the 360 pad either, I would say nine times out of ten it is doing the move I want it to. I don’t see myself ever playing this on anything higher than easy though, Unless I head to JLM’s dojo and dedicate myself fully to the ways of the warrior.

If anyones struggling with how to perform moves and stuff what I did was change the control system. Basically I've got RB and LB as Throws, LT as Personal Attack, RT as Focus Attack.

Wow.. I literally don't understand some of the things people are saying about doing stuff in this game. It's just words.. I have a lot to learn

JLM is bang on the money about Seth being Sagat's bitch, finished it on hardest in 5 attempts. Then went back and tried the Save your quarters achievement and beat Seth first time but then gone completely owned by Akuma. Do you get to fight Gouken if you beat Akuma, or does the achievement unlock after that?

Gouken's requirements are a bit different. Still not had clarity on it though.

Akuma is 2 ultras, 2 perfects, no continues. He fights you after Seth.

Gouken is 3 ultras, 3 perfects, no continues, Akuma already unlocked. He fights you after Seth. Some people reckon you hve to have finished the game with Akuma first too. Can't confirm this or not because we had already done it with Akuma just in case, but can't confirm if it was a factor in getting Gouken or not.

Haha, fat chance I'll ever unlock akuma. Although saying that, I just managed to complete it (albeit on easiest, which doesn't matter for Akuma) as Sagat without usuing any continues and got at least 5 ultra finishes. Although I've still never managed a perfect win.

I'm pretty sure you do have to complete it with Akuma first. Silly me went for Gouken as soon as I unlocked Akuma and did everything required but Gouken didn't show up. So I went online and read you need to complete the game with Akuma. So I went and completed the game with Akuma then went and did everything exactly the same way again and this time Gouken did show up. Hope that makes sense.

I'm not that good but i've started to get to grips with the game now but don't think i'll beat the game with everyone on medium, I don't think I have the patience to beat Seth with people like Dan and Guile. Beat him on easy with everyone though, think that might be enough for me

I've unlocked everyone now but still stick with my favourites when playing MP, I refuse to go that cheap ass bitch Seth. Blanka is as always my favourite. I just beat someone using him and then got invited to a party where the guy I beat and his friend started to call me various names, some people are so sad

I can beat Seth with little difficulty on easy mode now, I beat him on a first attempt with Ryu, I dread to think what he will be like when I get around to doing arcade with some of the weaker characters though and the thought of facing him on medium or higher is almost enough to make me cry, I don’t think I will ever unlock Akuma or Gouken.

I’m getting quite a few wins online now, Sakura seems to be the character I have the most success with.

I was on a bit of a losing streak last night but only ever missed out by a couple of shots I think I need to get back into the swing of this bad boy.

Have you got Seth on? i got all the ppl on by him and dont know how to get him on, The moves are harder for me to pull off then the SNES days but if you was any good at that (ill just throw in the fact i lost in the final in a best of Britain when i was a kid ) I dont find Seth that hard now 1st time i played it he was a git but now he is not much cop. Not as hard as some of the Marvel Vs Capcon Or just Marvel Bossies.

After nearly an hours worth of continues I finally beat Seth....On easy with Ryu last night.

I actually shouted "FUCK YEAH" at the top of my voice at 4am when i did it, I think i came a little too.

Not played it today, as i've been out and am now too tired to, but i think i'm alittle competant on the game with Ryu now

I played one "player match" on XBL, won both rounds then ventured on ranked, won 1 game, losing first round, and then lost the next game losing both rounds.

All in all, loving the game, just hope i can improve on it alot with more practice.

The in game moves list is wank, I've found myself looking at the manual wit the game for better explanations on how to do moves

My mate got this yesterday and we spent pretty much all day on it. I was expecting to be disappointed, as I was with Soul Calibur IV, but the game totally blew me away. My favourite characters are Guile and Bison. Sadly they seem to have "nerfed"(is that the term?) Chun-Li and she is now awful. Sagat and Balrog are super-powerful also.

We've managed to beat Seth a few times, albiet on Easy, but it does take some work. For the second round he becomes super-powered and keeps doing that fucking piledriver move!

Still struggle with the moves that require you to zig-zag the analog stick though...

UPDATE - I think my knack on this is with the charge move characters, I'm pretty good with Bison, Guile, Vega and Blanka specifically. Also you can win on any difficulty with Zangief if you just spam his cyclone fists move.

Also are Capcom fans of Alan Moore? Seth is a total Dr. Manhattan clone in appearance. He's also a bastard of a last boss.

He has nothing at all on Magaki from King of Fighters XI, but he is as cheap as the average beat'em up boss.

As for unlocking him, not yet. The requirement is simply to complete Arcade with everyone once you've unlocked all the others. I'll do it over time but I'm not that inclined to because no one will ever pick him as long as I have a say.

“I can beat Seth with little difficulty on easy mode now”

Talk about an example of my words coming back to haunt me, I tried facing him with Dhalsim and he proceeded to hurt me in many horrible ways, I defeated him eventually, I found that using quick jumping kicks when he goes for his stretch hands/sonic boom are the way, He almost always resorts to either the Sonic Boom or Stretch hands to attack you if you create some distance from him, quick kick attacks while he is doing either of these moves are the key to victory along with a combo in round 2 to finish off what remains of his health.

Blanka is a cunt.

I just can't work out how to do combo moves... Playing the game with a basic strategy, using random tactics is a little underwhelming, when trained killers just take me out.

Just practice more. I find I'm rarely able to pull off any sort of complx combo in an actual fight situation. One tip is often you can almost combine move comands together. For instance to do sagats fireball (QT P) into super (QT QT P) combo all you have to press is QT P QT P. I need to experiemnt more, but as I said I can never pull them off in fight situations.

I can't stand charge characters. I can't get the timing down, I spead to much time charge up only to mistime the realease or accidently jump.

Who finds that people keep using Zangief in network battles and keep spamming the grapple moves utter frustration!

Stay away from them then.

I bought the game yesterday. I'm really enjoying it, and love the that it keeps the old school feel and plays like a morden day fighter at the same time. Although, and this is just my hang up. But it doesn't really feel like a legit sequel. It doesn't feel like Street Fighter IV, because theres been soooooo many spin off's through out the years that when an actual sequel comes round. It just feels like another spin off. As I said, this is my hang up on what is eitherwise a cracking game and puts SF back on top where it belongs.

Argh. Played 22 matches online, won 16 of them. Lost three times to mediocre Sagat players. Really struggling with him in a way that wasn't prevalent on HD remix.

The lack of recovery time on the tiger knee is fucking devastating. It trumps nearly everything on wake-up and he can follow it up with another one from the other side within a split second. It's extremely low risk and very damaging if it hits. Plus they can mix in the Tiger Uppercut for another insane wake up move.

Sagat is the bane of my life so far. Other than that it's mostly very poor Shotokan users, who are ideal opposition for my Blanka.

HBK4life, you're a Blanka player, got a good vs. Sagat gameplan?

Argh, chun li is so awful. Took me ages to unlock Gen!!!!

I haven't ventured online much yet, but I'll soon join the ranks of the poor Sagat players!

I'm reading a lot of forums and now I realise how hated people who play as Ryu/Ken/Sagat (for very little reason too) I'm not in such a rush to get online. I don't want to have to play as a charge character. charge moves are shit.

I don't hate them, it's just that it's really dull when so many of your online opponents are the same handful of characters. On Third Strike it was awesome that one of the best players in the world plays as Hugo (the closest thing to Zangief), because it's refreshing to see total mastery of a non-Shotokan.

Also, they pick them because they're seemingly the most straightforward to use, but very few know what they're doing and might be better off trying the wider roster. Sagat is a bit more irritating because you have to be less competent to beat people with him than you do the rest of the roster. It's on me to figure out a good strategy to beat them though, he's in the game and he isn't a boss character, therefore people are perfectly within their rights to use him if they find that they win with him. Not insinuating that it's cheap or cheating to use him, he's just a fucker to beat for me at the moment.

It's been funny so far beating Ken players who have a few thousand battle points but have no idea what to do against Blanka though. Presumably they've been beating other Ryu/Ken users who are worse than themselves.

I don't get the Chun Li hate by the way. She's pretty similar to the third strike incarnation and is pretty awesome if you use her right. I guess if you hate charging characters you're not going to enjoy fighting Seth with her though.

I’m trying to defeat Seth with Crimson Viper at the moment, I’ve come very close a number of times only for him to go for his “Now, become a part of me” trick, Still I know it’s only a matter of time until I get the better of him, If I could do it with Dhalsim I can do it with her.

As for combo moves I can pull off all of the Super Combo’s I have come across without too much trouble and use them often but I’ve yet to hit an Ultra Combo outside of training.

When it comes to online play Sakura is still my character of choice, I’m winning a decent number of matches with her, whether that is because I’m a decent Sakura player or it’s just due to the majority of my online opposition being terrible I don’t know.

Matty, give me a game some time, tag is JasonC85. Also in the Gamertags thread.

played this game last night at a mates house, 7 of us doing online play against random folk

I must say i`m not really up to speed on these current gen games, I spent most my life playing the mega drive, currently quite happy with my PS2 but this game, feck man, this game rocks!

Back to the old school style 2d beat em up, but does it in such a way it blows the classic arcade machines out the water (spent most my youth placing 50p pieces on machines)

this is awsome.

I do think there was a problem though with online play, whenever i won a game the connection suddenly got lost! I dont know why that was!

Not really, i've lost more games than i've won so i'm not that good to be honest. I'm struggling through online games as I seem to mess up the charge moves too often and end up using pretty basic moves which can still gain the wins. Still fun playing online, even though I suck. 7 out of 10 people I play do seem to use Ken, anyone can be beat though so its all good.

Keep your distance, rely mainly on the regular rolling attack. If the Sagat player starts taking to the air in anticpation, obviously, go for the arial one. I'm pretty sure if you press forward and the default move for the RT control as Blanka you do this jump that goes through the opponent. So whenever you're up close enough for that Tiger Knee just jump through him and back off a bit.

I'm not a Blanka player, but I have beat Sagat (CPU) as him.

Yeah the hop definitely helps.

Just had five games against AliveAndAmplified of UKFF fame. Sorry, my headset is at a mate's house so I had to be a bit antisocial.

Games were a laugh like. I think I'm a bit more experienced than you, but it's all good practice. The Dan fight was hilarious, you let the super taunt run for just long enough for the throw to make me laugh out loud.

At the risk of sounding really patronising, I hope you keep at it and come back to PWN me.

Played this at a mates house yesterday for a few hours. I was mostly getting my arse handed to me although I did manage a couple of wins. Played through arcade on easy with Ken and beat Seth on my 4th try which sounds like I'm doing okay. Abel kicked the fuck out of me repeatedly though

It's awesome fun, mind. I may actually buy it, or ask for it as a birthday present for next week. It was quite chuffed that I could still pull off several dragon punches in a row. However, I'm wondering if that's due to the PS3 pad. I borrowed Anniversary Collection and was having a bash at that last night and I was nowhere near as good with the 360 controller.

Yeah. Abel is a fucking twat.

The 360 pad isn't as bad as I was led to believe it was going to be... I seem to be able to do most of the moves I try to do, and I'm sure the others will come with a bit of practice.

Incidentally, I use the d-pad, but I did read online in an faq last night that the analog stick is "almost universally accepted" to be better. What does anyone else use?

Also, speaking of faqs - there seems to be already plenty of stuff out there, but where's the best resource for full moves lists and faq's and what not as they appear?

The PS3 has a better d-pad than the 360 pad quite comfortably. I can play a number of 2D fighters on the PS2 and never have any problems pulling off specials and supers. Your average unripened avocado also has a better D-pad than the 360 pad though. A number of people have indeed suggested using the analogue stick, but I tried to do that for a round or two and have never felt less in control of my character.

I friggin love my Hori fighting stick. I should have bought one of these ages ago, it's the best thing I've had to play beat'em ups since my beloved Sega Saturn pads.

Had a go on the Madcatz Fightpads over the weekend too, and I have to say I was disappointed. It's certainly a huge step up from the 360 controller, but the d-pad still isn't nearly as good as it could be. Doing Fei Long and Cammy's moves that involve a rotation from down to diagionally up-forward nearly always result in an accidental jump because the pad is so twitchy and oddly positioned. I'd get it over using the standard controller, but would recommend getting a stick if you're planning to play the game for a long time.

It takes a bit of getting used to, but when it does it's so intuitive and you have every command at your fingertips without having to worry about bumpers or triggers. Akuma's Firecracker/Raging Demon can be busted out at a split-second's notice, which has never been the case for me before without the opponent at least getting a hint that I'm doing it because of the jabs and light kick involved in the input. I'm also consistently nailing 360 rotations without ever having to jump around like a goon.

Fighting sticks > You.

As for Abel, yes, he is a dick under computer control. His AI routine of closing down and repeatedly using his command throw to catch you on wake up is totally infuriating unless you really concentrate on not getting caught. Frustration can set in and lead to you getting thrown two or three times on the trot, which only leads to more frustration. Absolutely disgusting bit of programming that, and it doesn't really change based on your difficulty setting.

Had a proper practice session with El Fuerte yesterday too, which was enlightening. He was the least immediate of the new fighters for me and I tended to end up running around like an idiot during my first few matches with him. I get the gist of how he plays now and can certainly see the potential in him. His ultra is terrific too, simply because it's a throw and is therefore very hittable indeed if they're in range.

Rufus has grown on me in terms of using him in fights. I particularly like his kick that follows up into one of three attacks because I'm a big fan of moves that let you mix up your game. I went with Eileen in Virtua fighter and Anji in Guilty Gear for the same reasons. That said, I absolutely hate his character design. It's not the jiggling gut (that's actually rather mesmerising), it's his head and his whole look and persona. He just doesn't feel like a streetfighter character to me in the slightest. I can't imagine him in any of the 2D games and he just totally jars with the tone of the series for me.

Crimson Viper is similarly out of place, but she gets away with it because she looks like an escapee from an SNK game (she reminds me of Iori, Vanessa and a few others at the same time). Abel is Streetfighter through and through. An appearance that reflects where he's from and how he fights, a very personal fighting style and a moveset that slots into the roster like it was always there (and in fairness he does have Sean's overhead kick and a lot of Alex's attributes). Same is true of El Fuerte. Always thought they should have had a luchador representing Mexico anyway.

I personally use the analogue stick both on SFIV on the PS3 and HD remix on the 360. I find the sticks to be infinately more responsive and controllable than the D-Pad. I'm sure its just my style, but the d pad just never picks up my actions whereas I can get it every time on the stick. I find even the 360 analogue stick better than the PS3 d pad.

Ok this is going to sound like a stupid question but it's really doing my head in.

I'm doing the challenge mode with Ryu against Dan.

I'm seriously stuck with the move i have to perform on him

Basically it's

>Heavy punch

> Hadoken

">" Is a right arrow on screen.

Am I supposed to push right before I do the heavy punch then right before the hadoken? I've been doing it for a good 15 mins and can't seem to get the movements right if that's the case? Is their any timing to it or anything or is it literally just the move...Its driving me mad