What time do RAW tapings at the O2 arena usually finish?

Anyone able to answer my question on the BBFC classification?

Or indeed any information on BBFC clasification of WWF/E (e.g. why some 2004 release got 18s (WM XX etc), when the content seemed no worse than 15 rated material from 2003, and then they slacked off again)?

Cheers.

It's complicated. The BBFC doesn't issue E certificates. There are certain categories into which things are assumed to be exempt from classification (sport is the most obvious), but the producer is expected to submit it for classification if he thinks there may be an issue. I expect that's what happened with Summerslam '88, which featured some blood and Liz's legs and was a 15 on release. Since wrestling was for all intents a purposes a sport (and presumably there were no complaints) the BBFC let it go.

Latterly, when things started getting a bit wilder, the WWF started getting everything classified, as with the blood, bad language and more extreme violence (especially man-on-woman violence), they didn't have a choice.

Why some things get one certificate and others get another is down to a whole lot of specifics - number of bad words and their severity ("shit" is not as bad as "fuck" is not as bad as "cunt"), severity of violence (amount of blood, mostly, but also how risky various stunts are - fire and thumbtacks would obviously rate worse than hitting someone in the guts with a 2x4), and whether there's any sexual controversy (actual sexual content of various types and, worst of all, men beating up women).

That's a pretty awesome response, Kenny. Thank you.

For some reason, I've just remembered the Undertakers old post match ritual of stuffing his prone opponent in a body bag. When did he stop doing that? It was a pretty cool gimmick, I thought. I remember when i was a kid, i made one out of a bin bag, selotape & velcro so I could have body bag matches with my old Hasbro figures.

Then I remembered other post match insults, Ted DiBiase's dollar bills, the NWO's spray paint, Beefcake's hair snip and, of course, Jake's snake.

All very effective gimmicks. I can't think of anyone who's used anything similar recently. Is there someone I'm forgetting?

There was Carlito and his apple...

EDIT: In WCW, Johnny B. Badd also had "The Kiss That Don't Miss".

I completely forgot about the apple. Good call.

The first time I saw WWF TV (other than in the old ITV slot) was an episode of Superstars of Wrestling. Everyone at my school was talking about WWF at the time. I tuned in and saw DiBiase win a match and stuff a banknote in someone's mouth, then Jake won a match and did the snake deal. I decided it was a load of childish crap and decided not to watch again.

A year later however...

Horses for courses, but I really thought the post match shenanigans added to it. The bank note especially was quite insulting.

The fact Taker always picked the opponent up and carried them to the back whilst in the bodybag really added to his character, I thought.

Oh, and to revisit my original post - does anyone remember when Taker dropped the body bag gimmick? I've got a feeling it was probably around about the time he was feuding with Warrior but I can't remember.

Was it not when he turned face over the Elizabeth dealy?

That would probably make sense, although it might have been a bit earlier. He'd had some bodybag matches with Warrior over the summer (when he and Jake were buddies) and then went into the programme with Hogan. He might still have been doing it jobbers, but I don't think he ever did it with Hogan himself. After he turned, I'm pretty sure he didn't do it jobbers at all and only had one or two bodybag matches (if that) before the casket gimmick became his deal.

I'm sure i remember him doing in when i first started watching which was Dec 93.

Obviously though he buggered off for 6 months after the 94 rumble so was possibly doing it late 94/early 95. Although having said all that he might not of done it after every match but just on special occasions.

I remember a Purple-suited Undertaker bodybagging opponents in 95, so your right. The was a period where he'd bring a coffin to the ring every match in the leadup to the Yokozuna match, so a bodybag as well would be a bit OTT.

Hi.

Does anybody know where I could find the bit where The Undertaker sticks the Ultimate Warrior in that coffin thing? I've tried Youtube, but nothing.

Thanks.

Look harder.

Thanks. That's awesome. Good job J.

How many wrestling promotions allow you to buy tickets at the door?

Is there any wrestlers scheduled for appearances or signings on the upcoming Survivor Series tour? Would like to especially know if there are going to be any appearances at Meadowhall in Sheffield on 9th November. Cheers in advance.

Erm...probably literally every wrestling company on earth - at least those that haven't had an advanced sellout (and even then, it might still be worth trying). I've even bought WWE tickets on the day of shows (admittedly, not in this country, and I did go to the arena a couple of hours before the doors opened)...

Last November they had Jeff Hardy & Candice Michelle signing autographs at HMV in Meadowhall on the afternoon of the show, but there's nothing scheduled there this year (yet).

Has Samoa Joe ever faced Kevin Steen in a match before?

November 18, 2005--Pro Wrestling Guerrilla: Kevin Steen defeated Samoa Joe to retain the PWG Heavyweight title..

Thanks!

And thanks to you too! !

Two questions here, apologies for the somewhat hazy memory and description:

First one is regarding one of the WCW luchas who from memory i seem to think was Super Calo (sp?). It was a match when he went for a tópe or suicide dive and slightly misjudged it to the effect that he over shot the railing and inadvertently took out a few people in the front couple of rows. Not sure if it was a PPV or a Nitro/Thunder but seem to remember it might have been a six man tag or something similar. Just wanting to see the video really

Second question is along the same lines though with a twist. Same kind of idea again although it was at one of the Nitro sping breakout things (i think!) with the ring setup in the middle of a swimming pool. It had one of the luchas doing a move which ended in them getting flipped right over the out railings and into the swimming pool. Not sure who it was but might, again, have been Super Calo or maybe Damian666..............hopefully the location narrows it down to being a certain Nitro from 97/98/98 at that time of year.


Cheers !

Not sure about the second one, but here's the first one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re2OIEqh9sY

My question:
I'm assuming most people on here are familiar with the clip. If not, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Is0oHPL-nis&hl=en&fs=1
I've heard mutterings from people who say it's a work, it's real etc, but does anyone have ANY proof for either argument?
Cheers in advance.
(I posted this in a thread by itself, as I didn't see this thread. Despite being pinned. FFS)

HERE IT IS.

As for the other thing, the only person I remember going in the Spring Break pool during a match was Scott Steiner after Ray Traylor clotheslined him over the barrier in '98. I don't remember seeing a luchador go for a dip.

Thanks!

Howeverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr despite me saying my memory i don't think i've seen that before! Crazy as it sounds i'm thinking that might have been an entirely different incident and he maybe went and did it again in another match

EDIT: Found the swimming pool one with Flair, think i was getting totally confused thinking it was a luchador.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gUvXbStR7Gs

Kevin Nash also dived him (of his own accord), in case you were wondering (which you wern't).

Anybody know what Super Calo is up to right now? I remember seeing him on that "ECW on TNN" show, after he'd been released from WCW, then never seen again.

Who was "Antifaz Del Norte" as well? I haven't heard of that guy outwith ECW.

Thank you much.

I had assumed he'd dropped that gimmick by the time he returned in purple as he'd turned face by then. Thanks to you, and everyone for sharing their memories on this though

Couple of questions

Whats the status of Doug Williams in TNA? Is he just gonna be used on UK tours?

Whats the status of Hade Vansen and the WWE

and finally was the Umaga gimmick originally conceived for Samoa Joe

many thanks

From a 1991 Wrestling Observer report on a Arena Mexico show. My question......Kendo Nagasaki did lucha?? Was this the British Kendo? Has anyone got more details.

I doubt it very much. There was a Japanese Kendo Nagasaki too, and I think there may have been another one somewhere too. I suspect this was the Japanese one, as he was garbage guy and Herb's comment there hints at that. If it was the British guy he'd have specifically said so, as no-one in America would have any idea who he is.

Probably right., I just wondered because Chris Adams was working - but then again Adams had been in the Americas for years by that point.

wikipedia says the japanese version wrestled a lot in america so it will mostt likely be him (as has been said)



more on him here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazuo_Sakurada

I don't have proof but I'd say it's worked, purely because they could've dumped to commercial at any point but didn't, the interview went to a logical conclusion, and the commercial kick in straight after.

Not so much answering your question (although I have heard that he was offered the Umaga gimmick, but only from news sites) but adding to it.

There was a podcast interview with Samoa Joe, AJ Styles and Petey Williams on The Sun website a while back. In the description it says Joe talks about his 'secret' meeting with Umaga during Wrestlemania weekend. Has anyone listened to this, as I was just wondering what was said etc?

I know it's a bit late, but The Giant had a short-lived post-match thing where he'd smoke and sprinkle ash on his opponents post-match. Didn't go down well and was understandably dropped.

As for Barrence, Super Calo is still about, last I heard he was working for AAA. He lost his mask in 2007 though, and lost his hair this year.

Antifaz Del Norte was.. Antifaz Del Norte, sometimes just Antifaz. He doesn't have any other aliases of major note. Again, still around as far as I know. His luchaWiki profile picture shows him looking rather ripped, which I don't remember him being during his ECW appearances.

His luchawiki page does give me a follow up question though. It says he went by "Manuel Gomez" in the WWF. When, what, how, who, why etc.?

http://www.luchawiki.org is your friend. Really useful site.

I thought it might have been something to do with Los Boricuas but a quick look tells me that was actually Miguel Perez. So yeah, anyone else?

Yeah, Los Boricuas was my first thought, but I too remembered that that was Miguel Perez. He was the ludicrously hairy one right?

Manuel Gomez was the name he used on Super Astros, the WWF's 'Lucha' show that ran from 1998-99.

Aha! Of course, I'd totally forgotten about that. Cheers Lister, you big fountain of knowledge you.

Crikey i was right he did it AGAIN this time against La Park.

Craaaazy shit

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WKK_JdMfh_o

3 mins 5 seconds in roughly.

I haven't been watching much wrestling lately, but I caught a tag team match with Rey Misterio last week. He looked really slimmed down compared to how I remembered him. has he been gradually slimming down or did he return from injury this mall? or am I just imagining things?

Re-watching Shane vs Vince from WM X7, I realised that I really have no clue who half the WCW guys in the Sky Box are!

I can spot Stacey Kiebler/Miss Hancock, Lance Strom and Booker T, but that's about it.

I imagine it's a pretty easy question for most, but any idea who the rest were?

From what I can remember there was also Chavo, Sean Stasiak, Hugh Morris and Mark Jindrak.

Booker T & Hugh Morrus weren't there.

As well as Lance Storm, Stacy Kiebler, Chavo Guerrero, Jr., Shawn Stasiak & Mark Jindrak, there was also Mike Awesome, Sean O'Haire & Chuck Palumbo.

Since TNA currently owns the rights to World Wrestling Allstars,

what are the chances of TNA realeasing a dvd on it like WWE did with AWA WCCW and ECW?

Or is this more of an opinion based question than a fact based one?

Johnny Ace was amongst them, too.