UKFF > UKFF Questions Thread V2

Bring Back Minipops

Jan 11 2009, 13:10

QUOTE (bAzTNM @ Jan 11 2009, 8:49)

QUOTE (Herne's Son @ Jan 10 2009, 23:33)

Didn't the Great Muta do one with ROH as well?? maybe not but I could of sworn I read about it somewhere.

Here's a small shoot interview recap of him, and Kaz Hayashi..

http://thesmartmarks.com/article_1396.shtml

I remember reading something about that at the time and thinking it was just a normal interview, like the one Powerslam did with Misawa a while back. Thanks for that, Ill go and look that one up as well now!

The Dart

Jan 11 2009, 16:27

Who played Doink, Kimchee (I assume one was Steve Lombardi) and Gobbeldy Gooker at Wrestlemania 17?

benbobjr

Jan 11 2009, 16:54

QUOTE (The Dart @ Jan 11 2009, 16:27)

Who played Doink, Kimchee (I assume one was Steve Lombardi) and Gobbeldy Gooker at Wrestlemania 17?

don't know how accurate this site is

http://www.angelfire.com/wrestling/cawthon777/01.htm

but it states kimchee was played by lombardi and hector guerrero played the gobbeldy gooker, no mention on who played doink though.

and

http://prowrestling.wikia.com/wiki/Doink_the_Clown

this site says "while an unknown wrestler (speculated by many to be either Ray Apollo or Nick Dinsmore but never confirmed) competed as Doink in a "gimmick battle royal" at WrestleMania itself"

although people probably may just assume it might have been dinsmore as he played doink a few years later

air_raid

Jan 11 2009, 17:23

I know this is recycling from a few weeks back but I hadnt read this thread for a while...

QUOTE (Vice @ Dec 30 2008, 21:03)

It wasn't really a high-profile feud by that point, though, was it? The only match I can recall between them pre-Survivor Series 92 is the ladder match, which was from a house show and then released on Coliseum Home Video if I recall correctly.

Bret v Shawn for the Intercontinetal belt was THE mid card feud of the post-WM months in the WWF. They were wrestling each other all over the house shows. If you know what tapes to look on, you can find at least three of these matches on Coliseum :
(1) The famous ladder match (Smack Em Whack Em, Bret's first profile tape)
(2) One that Michaels wins by count-out when Sherri yanks Bret off the apron into the railing (UK Fan Favourites I *think*)
(3) One that Hitman won, reversing the Teardrop suplex into a sunset flip (US Rampage *I think*)

As already documented, Bret v Shawn was meant to be blown off at SummerSlam but for aforementioned business reasons it was Davey that relieved Bret of that particular strap. But hell, as anyone with the SS'92 tape knows, they even used Bret to create the reason Shawn wrestled Rick Martel instead - Michaels, consumed by his own desire to take the belt from Bret, got involved in Martel's crack at the belt. It made sense they would have at each other again after SummerSlam.

I was always gutted Bret didnt wrestle Michaels on TV more in 93-95 especially during his 2nd WWF title reign.

The_BarbarIAN

Jan 11 2009, 20:29

QUOTE (air_raid_crash @ Jan 11 2009, 17:23)

Sherri yanks Bret off

When was this? I thought WWF was all PG back in 1992.

Vice

Jan 11 2009, 21:20

QUOTE (air_raid_crash @ Jan 11 2009, 17:23)

I know this is recycling from a few weeks back but I hadnt read this thread for a while...

QUOTE (Vice @ Dec 30 2008, 21:03)

It wasn't really a high-profile feud by that point, though, was it? The only match I can recall between them pre-Survivor Series 92 is the ladder match, which was from a house show and then released on Coliseum Home Video if I recall correctly.

Bret v Shawn for the Intercontinetal belt was THE mid card feud of the post-WM months in the WWF. They were wrestling each other all over the house shows. If you know what tapes to look on, you can find at least three of these matches on Coliseum :
(1) The famous ladder match (Smack Em Whack Em, Bret's first profile tape)
(2) One that Michaels wins by count-out when Sherri yanks Bret off the apron into the railing (UK Fan Favourites I *think*)
(3) One that Hitman won, reversing the Teardrop suplex into a sunset flip (US Rampage *I think*)

As already documented, Bret v Shawn was meant to be blown off at SummerSlam but for aforementioned business reasons it was Davey that relieved Bret of that particular strap. But hell, as anyone with the SS'92 tape knows, they even used Bret to create the reason Shawn wrestled Rick Martel instead - Michaels, consumed by his own desire to take the belt from Bret, got involved in Martel's crack at the belt. It made sense they would have at each other again after SummerSlam.

I was always gutted Bret didnt wrestle Michaels on TV more in 93-95 especially during his 2nd WWF title reign.

Thanks for all that. It still seems a bit odd to me, though, that they'd have a big match at Summerslam 92 when their previous encounters weren't on TV. Either way, I'll seek out some of those other Hart-Michaels matches.

The Mighty LC

Jan 11 2009, 22:20

QUOTE (The Mighty LC @ Jan 3 2009, 11:09)

QUOTE (Ant @ Jan 2 2009, 20:23)

When was Summerslam 92 switched from Washington DC to Wembley?

I recall during the ads of Survivor Series 91 there was a competition to win an all expenses paid trip to Washington for the show.

Just wondering when it was switched.

I don't know for certain when it was switched, but it was originally set for the Cap Centre in Landover, Maryland, which isn't too far from Washington. I seem to remember they ran a show there in the Spring of 92 which didn't draw well, which may have influenced their thinking in looking elsewhere, but it's more likely that they saw how much money they made every time they came over here in that time, and came up with a can't miss main event (I do believe that the show in its original location would have had Hart v Michaels in a ladder match)...

Interesting little aside to this - I've been catching up on recent Observer content today (my god, between the last few weeks of Observers and F4Ws, plus where the 1991 back issues are at, am I SICK of reading about f**king drugs in wrestling?), and Meltz mentions in a November 91 issue that WWF are considering holding one of their PPVs in Britain in 92. He mentions that time difference problems could be a stumbling block, but that doing it on a time delay wouldn't likely be a problem (unlike now, you would have thought). No mention in the article of it being Summerslam, though you probably could have quite easily deduced it at the time that it couldn't really have been anything other than that...

JNLister

Jan 12 2009, 0:09

QUOTE (Vice @ Jan 11 2009, 21:20)

QUOTE (air_raid_crash @ Jan 11 2009, 17:23)

I know this is recycling from a few weeks back but I hadnt read this thread for a while...

QUOTE (Vice @ Dec 30 2008, 21:03)

It wasn't really a high-profile feud by that point, though, was it? The only match I can recall between them pre-Survivor Series 92 is the ladder match, which was from a house show and then released on Coliseum Home Video if I recall correctly.

Bret v Shawn for the Intercontinetal belt was THE mid card feud of the post-WM months in the WWF. They were wrestling each other all over the house shows. If you know what tapes to look on, you can find at least three of these matches on Coliseum :
(1) The famous ladder match (Smack Em Whack Em, Bret's first profile tape)
(2) One that Michaels wins by count-out when Sherri yanks Bret off the apron into the railing (UK Fan Favourites I *think*)
(3) One that Hitman won, reversing the Teardrop suplex into a sunset flip (US Rampage *I think*)

As already documented, Bret v Shawn was meant to be blown off at SummerSlam but for aforementioned business reasons it was Davey that relieved Bret of that particular strap. But hell, as anyone with the SS'92 tape knows, they even used Bret to create the reason Shawn wrestled Rick Martel instead - Michaels, consumed by his own desire to take the belt from Bret, got involved in Martel's crack at the belt. It made sense they would have at each other again after SummerSlam.

I was always gutted Bret didnt wrestle Michaels on TV more in 93-95 especially during his 2nd WWF title reign.

Thanks for all that. It still seems a bit odd to me, though, that they'd have a big match at Summerslam 92 when their previous encounters weren't on TV. Either way, I'll seek out some of those other Hart-Michaels matches.

The likely card in the US would have had plenty of matches which hadn't been on TV, but had been built-up with TV angles: Flair/Savage (which had been on TV), Hart/Michaels, Shango/Warrior, Undertaker/Berserker, Repo/Smith etc.

Herne's Son

Jan 12 2009, 0:49

Is it true or not that Sid was not supposed to kick out of the leg drop at Wrestlemania 8 but that Shango was meant to break up the count but was too late in coming down?

Was Shango then programmed with the Warrior and did they ever have a one on one match and why was the whole thing dropped so quick.

Didn't have Sky at the time so didn't see wwf tv.

Kenny McBride

Jan 12 2009, 11:36

QUOTE (Herne's Son @ Jan 12 2009, 0:49)

Is it true or not that Sid was not supposed to kick out of the leg drop at Wrestlemania 8 but that Shango was meant to break up the count but was too late in coming down?

Was Shango then programmed with the Warrior and did they ever have a one on one match and why was the whole thing dropped so quick.

Didn't have Sky at the time so didn't see wwf tv.

Yes, that's the story with Sid. Who knows if it's true? I'd have fired the fuck out of whoever was running Gorilla if that's the case, though.

Yes, Shango and Warrior had a series of goofy angles right after Wrestlemania. Shango "cursed" Warrior, making his puke and making black goo ooze out of him. Some of it was pretty cool in a Wrestlecrap way. I don't remember a match off the top of my head, but they probably had one somewhere along the line.

I don't remember the angle being dropped especially quickly. As I recall, it was basically just Warrior's warm-up to get him back into the swing of things before moving into the main event angle with Savage and Flair.

Au

Jan 12 2009, 12:32

QUOTE (Kenny McBride @ Jan 12 2009, 11:36)

I don't remember a match off the top of my head, but they probably had one somewhere along the line.

I don't remember a one on one match, although you have to imagine there was a blow off at some point due to the amount of time they invested in that feud. However, there was a pretty cool tag match released on video that had Warrior and Taker vs Shango and Berzerker.

bAzTNM#1

Jan 12 2009, 12:56

QUOTE (elegia @ Jan 12 2009, 12:32)

QUOTE (Kenny McBride @ Jan 12 2009, 11:36)

I don't remember a match off the top of my head, but they probably had one somewhere along the line.

I don't remember a one on one match, although you have to imagine there was a blow off at some point due to the amount of time they invested in that feud. However, there was a pretty cool tag match released on video that had Warrior and Taker vs Shango and Berzerker.

Yeah, that one was on the second Ultimate Warrior video.

Benoit is Innocent

Jan 13 2009, 13:42

Didn't they have a match where Warrior was DQ'd for hitting Papa Shango with his voodoo skull thingy?

summerslam1990

Jan 13 2009, 14:32

QUOTE (bAzTNM @ Jan 12 2009, 12:56)

QUOTE (elegia @ Jan 12 2009, 12:32)

QUOTE (Kenny McBride @ Jan 12 2009, 11:36)

I don't remember a match off the top of my head, but they probably had one somewhere along the line.

I don't remember a one on one match, although you have to imagine there was a blow off at some point due to the amount of time they invested in that feud. However, there was a pretty cool tag match released on video that had Warrior and Taker vs Shango and Berzerker.

Yeah, that one was on the second Ultimate Warrior video.

The one on one match referred to above took place on an episode of Saturday Night's Main Event.

JNLister

Jan 13 2009, 23:47

Warrior-Shango never wrestled on SNME. The only episode after Shango's debut had him against Bret Hart.

The_BarbarIAN

Jan 14 2009, 0:07

How big of a draw was Hulk Hogan pre-WWF/1984 in the AWA and New Japan (post Rocky III). I'm just reading a old article in Power Slam from 2002 where it says "contrary to popular belief, Hulk Hogan was the biggest attraction in wrestling long before he hooked up with the World Wrestling Federation." Is this true? And where does Hulk Hogan come on a scale of popularity between him and other notable foreigners who compete in Japan (like The Steiner Brothers, The Road Warriors, Stan Hansen, Andre etc.)

Au

Jan 14 2009, 0:48

QUOTE (JNLister @ Jan 13 2009, 23:47)

Warrior-Shango never wrestled on SNME. The only episode after Shango's debut had him against Bret Hart.

The only one on one match I can find is from a 1992 episode of Superstars. It's on YouTube (several times) if anyone wants to have a gander.

Kenny McBride

Jan 14 2009, 8:51

QUOTE (Ian_hitmanhart @ Jan 14 2009, 0:07)

How big of a draw was Hulk Hogan pre-WWF/1984 in the AWA and New Japan (post Rocky III). I'm just reading a old article in Power Slam from 2002 where it says "contrary to popular belief, Hulk Hogan was the biggest attraction in wrestling long before he hooked up with the World Wrestling Federation." Is this true? And where does Hulk Hogan come on a scale of popularity between him and other notable foreigners who compete in Japan (like The Steiner Brothers, The Road Warriors, Stan Hansen, Andre etc.)

I'm not sure about the AWA - though I know that losing Hogan was generally considered one of the major blows that helped put the company down for the count - but in New Japan, yes, he was right up there with the likes of Hansen and Brody. I'd think he's probably a bit ahead of the Steiners and the Road Warriors, if only because they're tag teams and so don't have the individual star power of a Hogan. Andre's a slightly harder one to judge, as Andre was never a guy who hung around very long, having competitive matches with everyone. He was a main event guy his whole time there though and faced Inoki in the finals of the first IWGP title tournament. Unless I'm very much mistaken, he won that (although he wasn't really meant to), so he was a major player.

Certainly, even in the States, he was marked out for stardom from very early on. He was pushed in Florida when he started, went straight into main events in Memphis (but then who didn't?) and was one of the first guys in New York to really get a lot of heat on Andre in the build-up to the Shea Stadium show. However, contrary to Hogan's book, he wasn't a main eventer at that point, being I think third or fourth from top underneath Bruno/Zybszko and Samoans/Backlund/Pedro.

Joe_the_Lion

Jan 14 2009, 11:52

QUOTE (Kenny McBride @ Jan 14 2009, 8:51)

QUOTE (Ian_hitmanhart @ Jan 14 2009, 0:07)

How big of a draw was Hulk Hogan pre-WWF/1984 in the AWA and New Japan (post Rocky III). I'm just reading a old article in Power Slam from 2002 where it says "contrary to popular belief, Hulk Hogan was the biggest attraction in wrestling long before he hooked up with the World Wrestling Federation." Is this true? And where does Hulk Hogan come on a scale of popularity between him and other notable foreigners who compete in Japan (like The Steiner Brothers, The Road Warriors, Stan Hansen, Andre etc.)

I'm not sure about the AWA - though I know that losing Hogan was generally considered one of the major blows that helped put the company down for the count - but in New Japan, yes, he was right up there with the likes of Hansen and Brody. I'd think he's probably a bit ahead of the Steiners and the Road Warriors, if only because they're tag teams and so don't have the individual star power of a Hogan. Andre's a slightly harder one to judge, as Andre was never a guy who hung around very long, having competitive matches with everyone. He was a main event guy his whole time there though and faced Inoki in the finals of the first IWGP title tournament. Unless I'm very much mistaken, he won that (although he wasn't really meant to), so he was a major player.

Certainly, even in the States, he was marked out for stardom from very early on. He was pushed in Florida when he started, went straight into main events in Memphis (but then who didn't?) and was one of the first guys in New York to really get a lot of heat on Andre in the build-up to the Shea Stadium show. However, contrary to Hogan's book, he wasn't a main eventer at that point, being I think third or fourth from top underneath Bruno/Zybszko and Samoans/Backlund/Pedro.

An answer creates a question - what do you mean by 'wasn't really meant to'?

Kenny McBride

Jan 14 2009, 12:26

If I remember rightly, the idea was that he'd clothesline Inoki on the outside and start celebrating as if he'd killed him, then Inoki would make the big gutsy comeback, hit the enzuigiri from behind and score the pin. As it turned out, Hogan caught him hard on the chin, knocking him cold. They tried to buy him some time, but he was out of it. Hogan became the first IWGP champion due to incompetence (and Inoki having a chin that's ricockulously hard to miss).

mikey

Jan 14 2009, 21:06

Hogan was AWA's top babyface. He was in the WWWF and he filmed Rocky III without Vince's permission so was fired. He ended up as a heel in the AWA but the fans turned him face through their reaction. Hogan became the top babyface but Verne didn't think him an "AWA wrestler". Hogan was the musclebound brawler and AWA the home of technical wrestling so he was booked in a number of false finishes and reversed finishes for the AWA title against Nick Bockwinkel. In April '83, his big showdown with Bockwinkel drew 20,000 to the Saint Paul Civic Center and when they pulled the reversed decision schtick again, the crowd rioted. Arguably, that was the point where a lot of fans lost faith with AWA and the beginning of their slide. If anything, it proved how stuck in the past Verne Gagne was. Hogan claims he was later offered the title but, by that point, he was bigger than the belt and Verne was playing silly buggers, trying to get a cut of Hogan's Japan money, not giving him enough of a cut on the merchandise and trying to get him married into the family.

RoryFice

Jan 14 2009, 21:17

QUOTE (Joe_the_Lion @ Jan 14 2009, 11:52)

QUOTE (Kenny McBride @ Jan 14 2009, 8:51)

QUOTE (Ian_hitmanhart @ Jan 14 2009, 0:07)

How big of a draw was Hulk Hogan pre-WWF/1984 in the AWA and New Japan (post Rocky III). I'm just reading a old article in Power Slam from 2002 where it says "contrary to popular belief, Hulk Hogan was the biggest attraction in wrestling long before he hooked up with the World Wrestling Federation." Is this true? And where does Hulk Hogan come on a scale of popularity between him and other notable foreigners who compete in Japan (like The Steiner Brothers, The Road Warriors, Stan Hansen, Andre etc.)

I'm not sure about the AWA - though I know that losing Hogan was generally considered one of the major blows that helped put the company down for the count - but in New Japan, yes, he was right up there with the likes of Hansen and Brody. I'd think he's probably a bit ahead of the Steiners and the Road Warriors, if only because they're tag teams and so don't have the individual star power of a Hogan. Andre's a slightly harder one to judge, as Andre was never a guy who hung around very long, having competitive matches with everyone. He was a main event guy his whole time there though and faced Inoki in the finals of the first IWGP title tournament. Unless I'm very much mistaken, he won that (although he wasn't really meant to), so he was a major player.

Certainly, even in the States, he was marked out for stardom from very early on. He was pushed in Florida when he started, went straight into main events in Memphis (but then who didn't?) and was one of the first guys in New York to really get a lot of heat on Andre in the build-up to the Shea Stadium show. However, contrary to Hogan's book, he wasn't a main eventer at that point, being I think third or fourth from top underneath Bruno/Zybszko and Samoans/Backlund/Pedro.

An answer creates a question - what do you mean by 'wasn't really meant to'?

I always thought the finish of that match was that Inoki had apparently "swallowed his tongue" and thus couldnt continue, thus giving the win to Hogan, meaning that Hogan was actually the planned winner of the match.

Deaq

Jan 14 2009, 23:00

Dont know if this is Wrestling Q's only but i donated so money the other day and have not heard back tryed to PM MOO but his in box is full.

Any ideas what i need to do now?

bAzTNM#1

Jan 15 2009, 8:15

QUOTE (Deacon.Dispair @ Jan 14 2009, 23:00)

Dont know if this is Wrestling Q's only but i donated so money the other day and have not heard back tryed to PM MOO but his in box is full.

Any ideas what i need to do now?

Wait I think, Moo will get to you in the end.

Au

Jan 15 2009, 10:46

Yeah, it was a couple of months between me paying and actually getting my account upgraded. He'll get to you eventually!

tiger_rick

Jan 15 2009, 14:37

QUOTE (Deacon.Dispair @ Jan 14 2009, 23:00)

Dont know if this is Wrestling Q's only but i donated so money the other day and have not heard back tryed to PM MOO but his in box is full.

Any ideas what i need to do now?

PM neil. I think he can do it now.

RoryFice

Jan 16 2009, 0:42

Does anyone have match listings for all the WWF Wrestlefest videos? I'm sure i used to have '93 or '94 but cant remember which one.

Deaq

Jan 16 2009, 2:32

Thank's Baz elegia and Rick. Will PM neil thanks.

tiger_rick

Jan 16 2009, 11:04

QUOTE (RoryFice @ Jan 16 2009, 0:42)

Does anyone have match listings for all the WWF Wrestlefest videos? I'm sure i used to have '93 or '94 but cant remember which one.

From Pro Wrestling History Tape Guide -> http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/videos/wwf/wwfindex.html

Wrestlefest (WF058)
07/30/88 Jacques & Raymond Rougeau vs The Killer Bees
07/30/88 Bad News Brown vs. Bret Hart
07/30/88 Jim Duggan vs. Honkytonk Man
07/30/88 The Powers of Pain vs. Nikolai Volkoff & Boris Zhukov
07/30/88 Jim Neidhart vs. Lanny Poffo
07/30/88 Jake Roberts vs. Rick Rude
07/30/88 The Ultimate Warrior vs. Bobby Heenan (weasel suit match)
07/30/88 Demolition vs. The British Bulldogs
07/30/88 Dino Bravo vs. Ken Patera
07/30/88 Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant (steel cage match)

Wrestlefest 1990 (WF080)
01/22/90 Roddy Piper vs. Randy Savage
02/14/90 The Ultimate Warrior vs. Dino Bravo
12/28/89 Brutus Beefcake vs. Rick Martel
01/23/90 The Hart Foundation vs. The Powers of Pain
08/09/90 The Hart Foundation vs. The Honkytonk Man & Dino Bravo
08/29/89 The Hart Foundation vs. The Rockers
1990 Segment on WWF fleet of trucks
01/15/90 Hulk Hogan vs. Mr. Perfect
03/06/90 Jake Roberts & The Ultimate Warrior vs. Ted DiBiase & Akeem (referee Big Bossman)

Wrestlefest 1991 (WF093)
02/19/91 The Ultimate Warrior vs. Earthquake
1991 The Mountie vs. The Big Bossman
04/15/91 The Rockers vs. Hercules & Paul Roma
02/18/91 Ted DiBiase vs. Kerry Von Erich
1991 Davey Boy Smith vs. Haku
1991 Brutus Beefcake grooming tips
03/12/91 Greg Valentine vs. Rick Martel
1991 The Warlord vs. Koko B. Ware
03/12/91 The Legion of Doom vs. The Hart Foundation
03/15/91 Marty Jannetty vs. Pat Tanaka

Wrestlefest 1992 (WF105)
03/23/92 Shawn Michaels vs. Virgil
04/07/92 Ted DiBiase & Irwin R. Schyster vs. The Bushwhackers
03/10/92 Davey Boy Smith vs. Rick Martel
1990s Highlights of various Bret Hart matches
11/12/91 Bret Hart vs. The Barbarian
03/10/92 The Nasty Boys vs. Earthquake & Typhoon
04/08/92 Randy Savage vs. Irwin R. Schyster
04/08/92 Tito Santana vs. Repo Man
04/28/92 The Legion of Doom, Earthquake, & Typhoon vs. The Nasty Boys, Irwin R. Schyster, & Ted DiBiase

Wrestlefest 1993 (WS927)
07/21/92 Owen Hart, Koko B. Ware, & Tito Santana vs. Repo Man, & The Nasty Boys
10/12/92 Crush vs. Papa Shango
09/01/92 The Big Bossman vs. Rick Martel
11/24/92 Earthquake vs. Repo Man
10/28/92 Shawn Michaels vs. Virgil
12/15/92 Ted DiBiase & Irwin R. Schyster vs. The Nasty Boys
06/01/92 The Undertaker vs. The Berzerker
07/09/91 Jim Duggan vs. Irwin R. Schyster
11/23/92 Randy Savage vs. Terry Taylor
08/10/92 Bret Hart vs. Kamala
10/13/92 Razor Ramon vs. Tito Santana
01/18/93 Mr. Perfect vs. Ric Flair (loser leaves town match)

Wrestlefest 1994 (WF136)
01/12/94 Randy Savage vs. Rick Martel
01/11/94 1-2-3 Kid & Marty Jannetty vs. Headshrinkers Fatu & Samu
1994 Men on a Mission "Wrestlefest Rap"
09/28/93 The Undertaker vs. Adam Bomb
01/11/94 Rick & Scott Steiner vs. Bret & Owen Hart
10/19/93 Yokozuna vs. Mr. Perfect
09/01/93 Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon
1994 "The King's Court" with Bret Hart
02/22/94 Bret Hart vs. Diesel

There are 95, 96 & 97 tapes too but I think they were In Your House compilations.

bAzTNM#1

Jan 16 2009, 11:23

1988's was a full stadium show, all the rest were a bunch of random match compilations IIRC.

EDIT: No Randy Savage - DiBiase title match on the 1988 version. Rather strange.

JNLister

Jan 16 2009, 14:38

It's edited down to two hours, so several matches are cut out.

The Mighty LC

Jan 16 2009, 15:28

QUOTE (tiger_rick @ Jan 16 2009, 11:04)

QUOTE (RoryFice @ Jan 16 2009, 0:42)

Does anyone have match listings for all the WWF Wrestlefest videos? I'm sure i used to have '93 or '94 but cant remember which one.

From Pro Wrestling History Tape Guide -> http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/videos/wwf/wwfindex.html

01/11/94 Rick & Scott Steiner vs. Bret & Owen Hart

Had that match had larger exposure it probably would have been a MOTYC for 94. Utterly terrific. Come to think of it, that entire tape is pretty great, and much of the Wrestlefest tapes are largely great - maybe not as great as the Supertape series (of which I remember Supertape 2 being pretty darned great, while Supertape 92 - not the 92nd in the series, you understand - had Tuesday in Texas on that)...

BURR

Jan 16 2009, 20:00

Are there any rats in British wrestling, or are they only in America?

Tommy!

Jan 16 2009, 20:56

would any one recomened the G1 climax shows.

what are they like over all?

also what years would people generaly say are best, im not sure how many they did but im sure its a regular thing

dopper

Jan 16 2009, 21:46

QUOTE (BURR @ Jan 16 2009, 20:00)

Are there any rats in British wrestling, or are they only in America?

I have no evidence to prove it, but a lot of the female fans that spend entire 1PW Doncaster Dome shows in the corner where the wrestlers merchandise tables are appear to be rats.

The_BarbarIAN

Jan 17 2009, 0:29

QUOTE (dopper @ Jan 16 2009, 21:46)

QUOTE (BURR @ Jan 16 2009, 20:00)

Are there any rats in British wrestling, or are they only in America?

I have no evidence to prove it, but a lot of the female fans that spend entire 1PW Doncaster Dome shows in the corner where the wrestlers merchandise tables are appear to be rats.

Has anyone ever given them a foam finger?

Bridge818

Jan 18 2009, 21:01

OK ive got a question and need an answer. in 1929 gus sonnenberg was stripped of the NWA world title by the the wrestling section of National Boxing Association . Anyway Ed Don George was the next nwa champion but what i need to know is was there a tournament for the title or was he just given it ? i can't find anthing to answer. any help would be awesome

Edit. Also can anyone help me as to how Ed Lewis went from NWA & nysac champion to Jim Londos having both belts i cant find a match between them from this time . i assume its just a simple as Lewis losing the belts to londos but i need some proof this took place
thanks

Bridge818

Jan 18 2009, 22:07

sorry kinda double post

NBT

Jan 18 2009, 22:50

Jim Londos beat Ed 'Strangler' Lewis on September 20th 1934 at Wrigley Park, Chicago, Illinois, in front of a crowd of 35,265 (Gate of $96,302) in 49 minutes and 27 seconds.

And Sonnenberg was the NWA (Association, not Alliance) World Champ in '29, after he was stripped of the belt Dick Shikat defeated Jim Londos in a decision match to become the new champion.

Bridge818

Jan 18 2009, 23:02

QUOTE (NBT @ Jan 18 2009, 22:50)

Jim Londos beat Ed 'Strangler' Lewis on September 20th 1934 at Wrigley Park, Chicago, Illinois, in front of a crowd of 35,265 (Gate of $96,302) in 49 minutes and 27 seconds.

Awesome where did u get that from?
thank you

NBT

Jan 18 2009, 23:13

National Wrestling Alliance: The Untold Story of the Monopoly That Strangled Pro Wrestling by Tim Hornbaker, page 73.

The Four Horsemen

Jan 18 2009, 23:41

Has John Zandig sold all or part of CZW to someone, just asking as in the last few videos and even last night watching The Wrestler I noticed that they now have a decent little rampway and video screens. Also the presentation quality seems a lot better.

So has Zandig either a) won the state lotto. or b) got an investor.

For some reason the guy who owned XPW - Rob Black seems to be creeping into my thinking about it.

Bridge818

Jan 18 2009, 23:56

QUOTE (NBT @ Jan 18 2009, 23:13)

National Wrestling Alliance: The Untold Story of the Monopoly That Strangled Pro Wrestling by Tim Hornbaker, page 73.

Amazing. what a retard i even have it and didnt think about it .
Thank you

bAzTNM#1

Jan 19 2009, 9:54

QUOTE (The Four Horsemen @ Jan 18 2009, 23:41)

Has John Zandig sold all or part of CZW to someone, just asking as in the last few videos and even last night watching The Wrestler I noticed that they now have a decent little rampway and video screens. Also the presentation quality seems a lot better.

So has Zandig either a) won the state lotto. or b) got an investor.

For some reason the guy who owned XPW - Rob Black seems to be creeping into my thinking about it.

Isn't Rob Black in the jail right now? Something about sending illegal porn to someone?

Magnum Milano

Jan 19 2009, 9:55

QUOTE (The Four Horsemen @ Jan 18 2009, 23:41)

Has John Zandig sold all or part of CZW to someone, just asking as in the last few videos and even last night watching The Wrestler I noticed that they now have a decent little rampway and video screens. Also the presentation quality seems a lot better.

So has Zandig either a) won the state lotto. or b) got an investor.

For some reason the guy who owned XPW - Rob Black seems to be creeping into my thinking about it.

I haven't watched the promotion for a bit, but from when I used to frequent the CZWfans message board, I am sure I remember something about D.J.Hyde investing into the company. It would certainly explain why he used to get pushed so heavily.

The Four Horsemen

Jan 19 2009, 14:45

QUOTE (bAzTNM @ Jan 19 2009, 9:54)

QUOTE (The Four Horsemen @ Jan 18 2009, 23:41)

Has John Zandig sold all or part of CZW to someone, just asking as in the last few videos and even last night watching The Wrestler I noticed that they now have a decent little rampway and video screens. Also the presentation quality seems a lot better.

So has Zandig either a) won the state lotto. or b) got an investor.

For some reason the guy who owned XPW - Rob Black seems to be creeping into my thinking about it.

Isn't Rob Black in the jail right now? Something about sending illegal porn to someone?

Feinstein? lol

NBT

Jan 19 2009, 16:07

He wasn't sending illegal porn. He was illegally sending porn across State lines, from what I recall.

Space Flying Tiger Drop

Jan 19 2009, 23:17

Is there any site's that have TNA PPV buy rates for the last couple of years? Same for WWE actually. Thanks.

NBT

Jan 19 2009, 23:24

TNA don't release their buyrates, any figures out there are calculated guesses by Meltzer. This page - http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/p...wf/wwfppvbr.htm - is good for older WWE stuff.

Space Flying Tiger Drop

Jan 19 2009, 23:26

Is that because TNA is a private company? Is there any sort of ruling that means they have to get released eventually, or are they not obliged to do it at all? I'm rather clueless with matters like that. Thanks for link though.