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May 28 2012, 9:14
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All entries now recieved and the bottom three will be announced later today. But just to get a little conversation going until then, here is numbers 10-6 on the worst list. Just in list form, but rest assured the top five will have write ups. 6 - Spear - Edge 7 - Mandible Claw/Socko - Mick Foley 8 - Starship Pain - John Morrison 9 - X Factor - X PAc 10 - 619 - Rey Mysterio The sappiness of Edge's spear was compounded by the memories of Goldberg's awesome spear from years prior where the velocity of the impact used to shake the building. Edge's powder puff version of the spear was more like a gentle shoulder tackle. The only exception was when he speared (Hardy I think) from mid airing a TLC match back I'm the golden Attitude era. That was smart. Mr Socko was shite. Full stop. X-factor was in the same realm as the Running Powerslam and the Pumphandle Drop in the sense that it should never have been a finisher and it drew a 3 count only because it was classed as a finisher. It's like saying Rick Flair body chops are my finisher, so play dead every time I do them... The 619 is for kids. Realism zero. This post has been edited by IronSheik: May 28 2012, 9:16 |
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May 28 2012, 9:22
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Mid Carder ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,518 Joined: 18-November 09 Member No.: 14,965 |
Im gonna have a guess for The Cobra or that one Shelton Benjamin did as #1 Worst Finisher!
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May 28 2012, 9:38
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![]() Mid Carder ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,226 Joined: 3-September 08 Member No.: 12,519 |
All entries now recieved and the bottom three will be announced later today. But just to get a little conversation going until then, here is numbers 10-6 on the worst list. Just in list form, but rest assured the top five will have write ups. 6 - Spear - Edge 7 - Mandible Claw/Socko - Mick Foley 8 - Starship Pain - John Morrison 9 - X Factor - X PAc 10 - 619 - Rey Mysterio One of mine already makes it, the X Factor. I thought I might be the only one who doesn't like it. Im gonna have a guess for The Cobra or that one Shelton Benjamin did as #1 Worst Finisher! I think worst finisher will either be the same finisher Shelton Benjamin/R-Truth uses (called Paydirt by the former wrestler) or the Playmaker used by MVP and I think Carlito also used it. |
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May 28 2012, 10:27
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Card Filler ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 792 Joined: 17-June 08 From: Mansfield Member No.: 12,222 |
Ok so here we go:
Joint #48 The Master Lock - Chris Masters ![]() Masters made a claim that his version of the full nelson hold, which he dubbed the Master Lock, was unbreakable. Masters began a series of contests he would call "Master Lock Challenges" where Masters would put an opponent in the Master Lock and the opponent would try to break free before Masters made him submit or pass out. Masters would go on to log more full nelson submission victories than any wrestler in WWE history, breaking the record previously held by Kurt Angle. This is pretty impressive by its self. Originally he would call out member’s crowd, placing a $1,000 prize of his own money to be paid to anyone who could break free from the Master Lock. This never happened. He later started challenging members of the roster including Val Venis & Sgt Slaughter and increased the amount to $20,000. Obviously all good things must come to an end eventually and this is the same for the Master Lock challenge. On an Episode of Raw in December 2006, Jonathan Coachman set up a Master Lock Challenge against John Cena for the WWE Championship. Masters appearing to have the challenge won released the hold for a short time, allowing Cena to reverse the hold into his own Master Lock, forcing Masters to submit, retaining his title, and making Cena the first to win the Master Lock Challenge Link below for the first "Master lock challenge" against a roster member. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcdOiSrjEwc What you said: The only submission move to make it into my Top 10. The Masterlock was the best established finish in the WWE at one point in time, I used to love the Masterlock Challenges, that helped to get the move over as an unbreakable submission hold. The reason I think it's so great is because it's such a tremendous visual move and when you've got a beast like the Masterpiece applying it, it's entirely believable as well. It's an old-school hold, a bit of a nostalgic nod to the good ol' days of the late 80's when efforts were made to make moves really mean something. The drama that you can build around this move is just amazing. It's a finish that we should be seeing in the main event at WrestleManias, it's that good. If Masters had been used properly by the WWE, the Masterlock would be the most over move in the business right now. -------------------- ![]() |
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May 28 2012, 12:13
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![]() Main Eventer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,224 Joined: 10-April 09 Member No.: 14,013 |
Obviously all good things must come to an end eventually and this is the same for the Master Lock challenge. On an Episode of Raw in December 2006, Jonathan Coachman set up a Master Lock Challenge against John Cena for the WWE Championship. Masters appearing to have the challenge won released the hold for a short time, allowing Cena to reverse the hold into his own Master Lock, forcing Masters to submit, retaining his title, and making Cena the first to win the Master Lock Challenge I have no recollection of this at all. I mustn't have watched Raw that week, but I just watched Cena break it on Youtube. The first person I remember breaking the Masterlock Challenge was Lashley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcdoTOnQrYM And they did make out nobody else had ever done it, which is weird because Cena doing it would only have been about two or three months earlier. -------------------- ![]() QUOTE @HeelZiggler: here comes @TrueKofi I PROMISE IM NOT HIS OPPONENT TONITE..... or am i??? HAHA #BestOf1000Series |
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May 28 2012, 12:37
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![]() Inter-Continental Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,774 Joined: 3-September 04 From: Somewhere nicer than where you are right now Member No.: 4,905 |
Cena cheated though. Masters thought he'd won, that's how I remember it.
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May 28 2012, 12:39
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Card Filler ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 792 Joined: 17-June 08 From: Mansfield Member No.: 12,222 |
Obviously all good things must come to an end eventually and this is the same for the Master Lock challenge. On an Episode of Raw in December 2006, Jonathan Coachman set up a Master Lock Challenge against John Cena for the WWE Championship. Masters appearing to have the challenge won released the hold for a short time, allowing Cena to reverse the hold into his own Master Lock, forcing Masters to submit, retaining his title, and making Cena the first to win the Master Lock Challenge I have no recollection of this at all. I mustn't have watched Raw that week, but I just watched Cena break it on Youtube. The first person I remember breaking the Masterlock Challenge was Lashley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcdoTOnQrYM And they did make out nobody else had ever done it, which is weird because Cena doing it would only have been about two or three months earlier. "Officially", Lashley didn't break it as Masters hands were not fully clasped at the time that he powered out. Cena is credited as being the first. -------------------- ![]() |
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May 28 2012, 12:42
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![]() Best In The Off-Topic World 2010 (with Frankie!) & 2011 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Paid Members Posts: 4,182 Joined: 17-September 07 From: Kingston, Jamaica Member No.: 10,962 |
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May 28 2012, 13:57
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Card Filler ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 792 Joined: 17-June 08 From: Mansfield Member No.: 12,222 |
Joint #48
Power Bomb – Sid Sycho’s powerbomb was quite possibly the best of the time between 1995 and 1998... Vader rarely did his powerbomb in WWE, Nash, while sharp, never had the mean dropping force that Sid's did (except to Rey). Like the chokeslam, it visually looks crippling as the opponent is lifted up high and slammed down with both arms. Both of Sids, WWE title reigns were won with the move. Tribute showing some brutal Powerbombs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1pP-oFioZE -------------------- ![]() |
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May 28 2012, 14:08
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Jobber Group: Members Posts: 143 Joined: 2-June 11 Member No.: 19,580 |
That YouTube clip has some bad ass PowerBombs like. Had to be in the top 50.
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May 28 2012, 15:33
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Card Filler ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 792 Joined: 17-June 08 From: Mansfield Member No.: 12,222 |
Final one for the day:
Joint #48 Crossface Chicken Wing – Bob Backlund ![]() Around 1983 or so, Backlund started doing the cross-face chicken wing, but back in ’83, that move didn’t garner a lot of respect. In the WWF at the time, submissions were seen as kind of well...boring. We were decades away from UFC and MMA changing the way we looked at submission holds. Don’t get me wrong though, there were a few exceptions, Camel Clutch, Sleeper etc... When Backlund returned to the WWF in 1992 and later turned heel, he again used the chicken wing as his signature move, even defeating Bret Hart for the WWE title with it. This match was funny as it was an exact copy of how he lost his WWE title to the Iron Sheik back in 1983, with the ring man throwing in the towel with the loser not actually submitting. This was a different Backlund, than the clean cut image he had protrayed all the years and throughout his 5 year WWF title reign. This was a crazed, insane Backlund and the Chicken Wing was the perfect move for a wrestler such as this. The link below is a demonstration of how to apply the Chickenwing by Bob Backlund on Monday Night Raw from 1994. The man comes across as an absolute lunatic. I recommend you watch this is you haven’t seen it before. He rags him about like, Lesnar fucking Sable!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jo3arA2rIU -------------------- ![]() |
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May 28 2012, 15:49
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Wrestling Poster of the Year 2009 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Paid Members Posts: 17,321 Joined: 24-April 02 Member No.: 748 |
I remember watching Superstars (or Mania) when that very picture was taken. Adam Bomb had previously saved someone from a Backlund attack. Next thing you know, during an Adam Bomb match Bob turned up and slapped the chicken wing on him. I remember me, my brother and my Dad watching it and going "he's giving Adam Bomb a right pasting!" That was my prime as far as thinking like it was real. I knew it was fake, but my head was geared towards what would make the most sense. Such as "Adam Bomb's a big bloke, he's sure to win the belt if he wrestled Bret Hart" and stuff like that. So it was a massive shock to see Backlund giving him a right belting.
1994 was a good year I thought. This post has been edited by The_BarbarIAN: May 28 2012, 15:49 -------------------- ![]() QUOTE "I never offered Chris Harris money, so he could masturbate naked in the other bedroom so I could watch. Bob Ryder can't make the same claim". - Kevin Kelly QUOTE "No wonder Abyss wore a mask afterwards" - Kevin Kelly |
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May 28 2012, 17:55
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![]() European Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Paid Members Posts: 4,535 Joined: 19-October 08 From: West Midlands Member No.: 13,311 |
Good work putting this together, PSF.
Road Doag's pump-handle drop - most devastating finisher of all time bar Davey Boy's magnificent running powerslam.......... I wasn't sure at first if this was sarcasm. X-factor was in the same realm as the Running Powerslam and the Pumphandle Drop in the sense that it should never have been a finisher and it drew a 3 count only because it was classed as a finisher. Are you having a laugh? For its time the running powerslam was superb! Back when a normal powerslam was a guaranteed nearfall or even a finisher as used by the Anvil, Warlord or Road Warrior Animal on occasion, being ran across the ring and driven into the mat with force by a bloke the size of Davey Boy was very believable as a finish! This was back when Rick Rude and Honky Tonk Man were finishing with neckbreakers, DiBiase and Beefpiece with sleepers and Duggan with a (usually) rubbish clothesline, remember. I think you're being incredibly harsh on Smithers and his weapon of choice. In fact in subsequent years I might still have bought the running powerslam as a finish applied by someone equally as muscled, such as the Masterpiece (if he didnt already have a suitably boss finish). I think it looks miles more impactful than a load of todays finishers, the FU, Zigzag, Worlds Strongest Slam, SCF.... I could go on and on. -------------------- ![]() |
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May 28 2012, 18:58
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![]() Jobber Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 24-March 09 Member No.: 13,925 |
6 - Spear - Edge 7 - Mandible Claw/Socko - Mick Foley 8 - Starship Pain - John Morrison 9 - X Factor - X PAc 10 - 619 - Rey Mysterio Im really glad that three of the moves I voted worst have shown up on the list. 619 - I really hated the way the opponent fell on to the second rope leading up to the 619 and then they over sold the impact and shot across the ring. My problem with the mandible claw was that it looked like you could bite his fingers and break the hold and lastly starship pain often missed the opponent. -------------------- ![]() Here comes the Ax Here comes the Smasher The Demolition, Walking disaster Pain and destruction are our middle names |
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May 29 2012, 1:39
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![]() European Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Paid Members Posts: 3,305 Joined: 3-March 04 Member No.: 3,911 |
When Backlund returned to the WWF in 1992 and later turned heel, he again used the chicken wing as his signature move, even defeating Bret Hart for the WWE title with it. This match was funny as it was an exact copy of how he lost his WWE title to the Iron Sheik back in 1983, with the ring man throwing in the towel with the loser not actually submitting. Ha, never realised this. Wasn't watching in '94 if it was referenced but I've seen the finish a bunch and it's never occurred to me. That's an awesome touch, love shit like that. Glad to see Backlunds chickenwing make it and to see submissions having a good early showing. The crossface chickenwing is something I was tempted to go for so really pleased others voted for it. As mentioned it looked and fit with Backlunds '94 turn tremendously. -------------------- |
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