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post May 25 2009, 23:08
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Sorry but i'd disagree with that. He's had a lot of money to throw at players like Mulgrew, McNamara, Severin, Smith, Miller and the likes just like he did with the Pars and nearly put us into administration as a result and the after effects are still kicking in now with what you mentioned above.

With the money he had at his disposal the with us he get the likes of Crawford, Brewster, Nicholson, Rossi, Skerla and quite a few others and built a decent team. With the resources he had a 4th place finish was the very minimum i'd expect. He also blew crazy money / wages on distinctly average players like Matthei, Young (x 2), Dempsey and Byrne.

Personally i think there is a lot of smoke and mirrors with Calderwood. Some of his team selections and in particular his substitutions were horrendous and left you totally bemused. Also the european style of nicking a goal and defending your lead for sixty minutes playing out a 1-0 became horrific.

Granted the stats paint a very different picture both for ourselves and Aberdeen but i don't think he deserves all the credit people throw at him.

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post May 25 2009, 23:12
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QUOTE (stevon @ May 26 2009, 0:50) *
Ally, not trying to pick a fight or get the whole "Celtic are better than Rangers, Rangers are better than Celtic" crap started up but what's with the sig? "Worlds most successful football club"?


We've won more trophies and more league titles than any other football team in the world. That's what it is about.


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post May 25 2009, 23:17
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I'd be worried if I was a Celtic fan. Strachan is the king of walking away at the right time and if he's got out while the getting was good, then there's trouble ahead.


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post May 25 2009, 23:22
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QUOTE (Ally Clark @ May 26 2009, 0:12) *
QUOTE (stevon @ May 26 2009, 0:50) *
Ally, not trying to pick a fight or get the whole "Celtic are better than Rangers, Rangers are better than Celtic" crap started up but what's with the sig? "Worlds most successful football club"?


We've won more trophies and more league titles than any other football team in the world. That's what it is about.


Would you not say a team who's done it at a higher level numerous times such as Man Utd, Real Madrid etc would be deemed more successful? I mean if you go by your logic I think my team in the park when I was a kid won loads of trophies and cups so we could say we're more successful than Rangers.


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post May 25 2009, 23:28
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QUOTE (SiMania @ May 26 2009, 1:22) *
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QUOTE (stevon @ May 26 2009, 0:50) *
Ally, not trying to pick a fight or get the whole "Celtic are better than Rangers, Rangers are better than Celtic" crap started up but what's with the sig? "Worlds most successful football club"?


We've won more trophies and more league titles than any other football team in the world. That's what it is about.


Would you not say a team who's done it at a higher level numerous times such as Man Utd, Real Madrid etc would be deemed more successful? I mean if you go by your logic I think my team in the park when I was a kid won loads of trophies and cups so we could say we're more successful than Rangers.


I won the European Cup Twice on Football Manager. Does that make me more successful than Celtic? The first part of your argument is fine but the second is really off the mark.

Sure real Madrid, man Utd etc... have won at a higher level. But we can only deal with the cards we're dealt, playing in Scotland. And the simply fact is we've won more than anybody else. Which makes us the most successful football club on the planet.


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post May 25 2009, 23:28
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Word filters through the Tattiedome that Dundee United have equalised, Ooops! My Celtic fan mate said Lennon was jumping around daft, I hope someone has it on video biggrin.gif

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post May 25 2009, 23:32
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QUOTE (TheLostScot @ May 26 2009, 1:28) *
Word filters through the Tattiedome that Dundee United have equalised, Ooops! My Celtic fan mate said Lennon was jumping around daft, I hope someone has it on video biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svE3-x4iDhU


Operation Tango. Bloke started it on FollowFollow last week to get everyone to text Celtic supporting mates at the same exact time that Dundee Utd had scored.

Worked a treat.


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post May 25 2009, 23:34
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QUOTE (Ally Clark @ May 26 2009, 0:28) *
QUOTE (SiMania @ May 26 2009, 1:22) *
QUOTE (Ally Clark @ May 26 2009, 0:12) *
QUOTE (stevon @ May 26 2009, 0:50) *
Ally, not trying to pick a fight or get the whole "Celtic are better than Rangers, Rangers are better than Celtic" crap started up but what's with the sig? "Worlds most successful football club"?


We've won more trophies and more league titles than any other football team in the world. That's what it is about.


Would you not say a team who's done it at a higher level numerous times such as Man Utd, Real Madrid etc would be deemed more successful? I mean if you go by your logic I think my team in the park when I was a kid won loads of trophies and cups so we could say we're more successful than Rangers.


I won the European Cup Twice on Football Manager. Does that make me more successful than Celtic? The first part of your argument is fine but the second is really off the mark.


I jested with the second part, but the first part says it all.

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Sure real Madrid, man Utd etc... have won at a higher level. But we can only deal with the cards we're dealt, playing in Scotland. And the simply fact is we've won more than anybody else. Which makes us the most successful football club on the planet.


Haven't Rangers entered these competitions too? You can't say you're more successful than Man Utd, Real Madrid or AC Milan when they've all beat you in level playing field competitions?

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post May 25 2009, 23:55
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QUOTE (SiMania @ May 26 2009, 1:34) *
Haven't Rangers entered these competitions too? You can't say you're more successful than Man Utd, Real Madrid or AC Milan when they've all beat you in level playing field competitions?


We've won more trophies than them. In football succes is trophies.

I'm not saying we are the biggest club in the world, but we are the most successful and facts don't lie.

But I understand how you want to have tedious and petty arguments over things such as this, when your own team just lost a league championship.


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post May 26 2009, 0:58
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Ally is a funny cunt sometimes..

I give you

Club Nacional de Football with 195 different trophy's/Honour's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Nacional_de_Football

Also

Linfield F.C with 214 different trophy's/Honour's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linfield_F.C.

So erm yeah Ally is wrong again.

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post May 26 2009, 1:55
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QUOTE (Deacon.Dispair @ May 26 2009, 2:58) *
Ally is a funny cunt sometimes..

I give you

Club Nacional de Football with 195 different trophy's/Honour's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Nacional_de_Football

Also

Linfield F.C with 214 different trophy's/Honour's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linfield_F.C.

So erm yeah Ally is wrong again.


We've still won more league titles than any other team. smile.gif

You still a crippled cunt?


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post May 26 2009, 2:10
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QUOTE (Ally Clark @ May 26 2009, 3:55) *
QUOTE (Deacon.Dispair @ May 26 2009, 2:58) *
Ally is a funny cunt sometimes..

I give you

Club Nacional de Football with 195 different trophy's/Honour's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Nacional_de_Football

Also

Linfield F.C with 214 different trophy's/Honour's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linfield_F.C.

So erm yeah Ally is wrong again.


We've still won more league titles than any other team. smile.gif

You still a crippled cunt?


Wait a sec did you not just say?
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So what are you saying? The team that wins there league the most are the best team? Make rules up as you go along jackass, anyway you word it your wrong.

Oh and..

Using a walking aid for 6 months is hardly a cripple. laugh.gif You still a wannabe MMA Fighter? Bar worker? Comedian? Oh no, your a jobless prick who cant afford to move out of his mommy and daddy's place. laugh.gif go and find something else you can fail at you useless cunt.

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post May 26 2009, 6:27
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Rangers have won 52 league titles. Most in the world.

I'm not boasting, or anything. Just flinging the facts out there.

Early Celtic betting

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O Coyle 6/4
T Mowbray 5/2
J Collins 8/1
M McGhee 10/1
c Levein 10/1
F Smuda 14/1
A Curbshley 14/1
W McStay 14/1
A Irvine 16/1
P Lambert 16/1
M McCarthy 16/1
R Keane 20/1
D Ferguson 20/1
N Lennon 25/1
D Moyes 28/1
S Bilic 33/1
R Martinez 33/1
M O'Neill 50/1
F Rijkard 50/1
R Aitken 50/1
H Larrson 150/1

For value, I'd say either Lennon, or Keane.

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post May 26 2009, 7:33
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QUOTE (Stylin_and_Profilin @ May 26 2009, 1:08) *
Personally i think there is a lot of smoke and mirrors with Calderwood. Some of his team selections and in particular his substitutions were horrendous and left you totally bemused. Also the European style of nicking a goal and defending your lead for sixty minutes playing out a 1-0 became horrific.

Granted the stats paint a very different picture both for ourselves and Aberdeen but i don't think he deserves all the credit people throw at him.

Couldn't agree more.

However Calderwood has had the last laugh by leaving us with Darren Mackie and Derek Young signed to contract extensions.

Oh and Deacon.Dispair - Post of the year! thumbs-up.gif


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post May 26 2009, 8:26
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QUOTE (bAzTNM @ May 26 2009, 8:27) *
Rangers have won 52 league titles. Most in the world.

I'm not boasting, or anything. Just flinging the facts out there.

Early Celtic betting

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O Coyle 6/4
T Mowbray 5/2
J Collins 8/1
M McGhee 10/1
c Levein 10/1
F Smuda 14/1
A Curbshley 14/1
W McStay 14/1
A Irvine 16/1
P Lambert 16/1
M McCarthy 16/1
R Keane 20/1
D Ferguson 20/1
N Lennon 25/1
D Moyes 28/1
S Bilic 33/1
R Martinez 33/1
M O'Neill 50/1
F Rijkard 50/1
R Aitken 50/1
H Larrson 150/1

For value, I'd say either Lennon, or Keane.


I doubt they will get owen coyle to be honest and John Collins is way to high a price to, Mowbray and McGhee are the prime candidates. McCarthy looks a good price though.


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